Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 7 Episode 16 - Storyteller

0:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before Just be how never ended with those How you need as a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from one unusual place [SPEAKER_01]: You need a partner for a ride Because everybody needs a ride Such a worries to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask [SPEAKER_01]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 Isn't me to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask [SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's shows dot me!

1:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Shit 90's shows dot me was not filmed before live studio audience. [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready to slay another day? [SPEAKER_02]: So are we? [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to shit 90 shows taught me. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm justirling here with my co-host, Sarah Humphrey, Sarah, how are you? [SPEAKER_03]: Jess, I'm doing good. [SPEAKER_03]: You already sound over it. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm over this episode. [SPEAKER_02]: Truly, I don't care about Andrew. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need his perspective. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need like a background episode on him, like my life was fine. [SPEAKER_02]: And truly, like you message this and it could not be trueer. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't need another one of those in my life. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, like, let's go fine. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, if y'all didn't listen to our Felicity coverage, they have, they did a thing.

2:11 [SPEAKER_03]: It was at least two or three seasons where Sean, who is one of the main characters that like we barely tolerated to begin with. [SPEAKER_03]: was a filmmaker, and he did these episodes. [SPEAKER_03]: It was called like Docuventry, and then Docuventry too. [SPEAKER_03]: And there might be more Docuventrys. [SPEAKER_03]: And at least the first one, we were like, we hated on it so bad. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember why, because, [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like it's kind of like we didn't have a tolerance for Sean kind of like how we don't have a tolerance for it was like super crusty like the Oh, he was crusty. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Like the cinematography and Andrew's film is good. [SPEAKER_03]: But in Sean's it literally looked like it was filmed.

2:55 [SPEAKER_03]: with like a baked potato. [SPEAKER_03]: So it was like, oh, like not this again. [SPEAKER_03]: It was just really the quality was just by we were over it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it felt like dark inventory and I was like, oh, flashbacks. [SPEAKER_03]: I knew you wouldn't like this episode purely based on [SPEAKER_03]: the Andrew perspective and like just like you don't have time we barely have time for side characters anyway and this was kind of like a fluff episode this was like a oh you know we need to give like Andrew a little bit of time he got his time I was kind of entertained by this episode I felt as though [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like, I didn't necessarily feel like it was a waste of my life.

3:45 [SPEAKER_03]: However, it kind of, I mean, it kind of was, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think my biggest problem is that, like, so much of it is taken up by Andrew, and then we get, like, blips of, like, onionsander, which we'll talk about a tiny moment of, like, uh, spike and the principle, who we're now just calling Robin, which personally I have a problem with, [SPEAKER_02]: He is principal woods or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Like he is not Robin. [SPEAKER_02]: And so every time they said Robin, I'm like, who, like, what the fuck is Robin? [SPEAKER_02]: Like why are we at a first name basis with this guy now? [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Because if I feel I'm not a date with him, and it's kind of weird to call somebody that you want on a date with principal wood because then I remind you of the unfair power powered [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, his name Robin would, do you think that's anything like Robinhood?

4:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Like do you think that like there's some sort of something in the rich give to the needy? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which he doesn't really do, but, no, maybe there's something there, but I don't know, he doesn't look like a Robin to me. [SPEAKER_03]: Who does look like a Robin to you? [SPEAKER_02]: Robin Williams. [SPEAKER_03]: got it. [SPEAKER_02]: You just looks like he shouldn't be named Robin and also like he's principal would. [SPEAKER_02]: We've established this. [SPEAKER_02]: We don't need to be given him other names. [SPEAKER_02]: Like we've been there done that with Connor blot of law, whatever the fuck his face is in angel. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't need to get that buffing Steven.

5:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, except the it like those were two different names. [SPEAKER_03]: This is just her his full name. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but his name is principal would and I will not hear anything else. [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what then? [SPEAKER_03]: I respect you. [SPEAKER_03]: We can just call him principal would for the rest of the episode. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_03]: Incredible. [SPEAKER_03]: So, or just principals find you. [SPEAKER_02]: So. [SPEAKER_02]: so much of this episode is like we get like Andrew's thoughts on everybody. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, I basically want to film this because if the world ends, if any human survive, they can look at this and know what happened. [SPEAKER_02]: So he's like following Buffy around and filming her. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like getting close up on people.

6:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He's listening in on conversations that weren't meant to be over [SPEAKER_02]: And we are getting a lot of Willow Kennedy, like touchy feelings, like, you know, let it touch your arm. [SPEAKER_02]: Eww! [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the like early stage romance. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it reminded me the fact that the last episode of Angel that I watched, not the current episode that we're going to discuss. [SPEAKER_03]: She willow said to [SPEAKER_03]: Frankie, no, Fred, that was like, who the fuck is Frankie? [SPEAKER_03]: Fred, she said to Fred that she was seeing somebody. [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh man, like that really kind of like jumps the gun, like a little bit like we're really seeing somebody, but then it reminded me of this episode that, oh, that angel episode is a few episodes from this point.

6:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is the beginning. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a nice opposed by the time we get to [SPEAKER_03]: Canon, the canon world that Willow goes to Angel, they Kennedy and Willow are as in established couple. [SPEAKER_03]: So, right, that was. [SPEAKER_03]: find like they were like making out on like couch they seemed like very touchy feeling as you said it seems as though the issue of Kennedy being like oh like you might be too powerful for me or I don't really like that you suck the light force out of me it seems like a non-issue this episode so yeah we just really bypassed that home [SPEAKER_02]: We are really just yada yada the problem of Willow being a super powerful witch and accidentally sucking away some of Kennedy's life force.

7:46 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's like, it's okay, it's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: It seems as though Kennedy is about to rent her new haul and move right in. [SPEAKER_03]: She already lives there. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So she did specifically say, wait, this reminds me. [SPEAKER_03]: Remember how she, when she first came, she was just like, oh, like, I want to sit in your room alone, um, which it was like reminded me of, um, many moons ago. [SPEAKER_03]: when you were having a bunch of us at your family lake house, you said only couples can have bedrooms.

8:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And because most of the couples had dogs or whatever, like it wasn't fair. [SPEAKER_03]: It was easier. [SPEAKER_03]: Can you have bigger beds? [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, well, two people should be sharing a bed. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So, which... [SPEAKER_03]: which for a while is why Adam and I and I said that's why we got together because that we could specifically we chose when we first got together. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So that we can have it. [SPEAKER_02]: Most of the people coming were also. [SPEAKER_02]: in a couple. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like there were that. [SPEAKER_02]: And we had other places people to sleep. [SPEAKER_02]: We weren't like everyone else on the floor. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, that's not that way. [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what Adam and I heard. [SPEAKER_02]: We had pouches.

9:09 [SPEAKER_02]: We had one of those other things. [SPEAKER_02]: We had like an ornament that fell out into like a bed. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Adam and I being the deepest that we are, we said, no, no, no, no, no, no, we will not be sleeping on the floor. [SPEAKER_03]: So we must hook up now, get married and have a child. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm really committed to [SPEAKER_03]: That was our motivation because but essentially this was going to say like Kennedy's like, hey, I need to couple up so that I can get the crumb to the crumb room. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair because otherwise she's sleeping with 20 other women on the floor in the living room. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: puzzle the nepotism because now that she's in with Willow, she doesn't have to be, she's not a fellow maggot, she is the maggot leader exactly.

9:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so they seem fine. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything is going fine with those two apparently. [SPEAKER_02]: I want to stick and talk around about like Ania and Zander because it's like a side quest storyline here. [SPEAKER_02]: they have like a whole thing where they they're basically like let's let's break down what happened with the whole wedding leaving me at the altar thing and basically they like kind of agree that there's like well there's always like feelings there like there's always going to be some feelings there it was interesting hearing on this point of view of like [SPEAKER_02]: We I think her point of view was like we should have gotten married and his point of view was like well no that was like that was why I didn't do it because like we weren't ready blah blah blah so it was really interesting hearing them actually like litigate that because we've never really heard them kind of talk so candidly about the wedding to each other at least [SPEAKER_02]: Um, what did you make of this this conversation that they had that Andrew so rudely films behind the back watched over the creep like this is this is the most [SPEAKER_02]: This is like the most soft core nonsense I've ever seen.

11:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like someone who's like rewinding this and rewinding it's like, bro, there's porn, like, stop, you know, like porn exists. [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you're internet, but sometimes your favorite porn is real couples, though, that is a thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like creepy. [SPEAKER_02]: That's like, that's like, [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's like the whole thing of like, forget it's not a movie or something. [SPEAKER_02]: We're like the girl finds out that like her boyfriend like jerks off to a picture of her. [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like that, but worse because you're getting like, Sarah's show. [SPEAKER_02]: I think so. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like you're watching two people that you know that maybe you consider friends, maybe you don't like re-litigate their love life and you're like, yeah, this is hot.

11:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that Andrew was watching it saying like, hey, this is high. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that he has like a romantic heart and he is kind of like a soap opera for him and he was in his feels about it. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't think it was a sexual thing at all actually. [SPEAKER_02]: It was just really weird to me. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, I thought it was interesting to watch Ania and Zander talk it out because it's the sort of thing that it's Kind of like a privilege for them to be able to talk out their feelings about this because it's a year after the fact and that they have a year of perspective. [SPEAKER_03]: I [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like I would have liked on you to have a more evolved perspective and maybe even been like, you know, you're right, like we weren't ready because I feel as though that that I think Zander has a better gauge on their reality than on you does, but maybe on you [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.

12:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I would rather get married and give it a try than never get, like, go forward with it all and lose the love of my life. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, is it better to just give it a go than, you know, lose it all and [SPEAKER_03]: be without somebody that you very much care for for a year. [SPEAKER_03]: But I thought that it was very obvious. [SPEAKER_03]: We've been saying that they still have feelings for each other and it's unfortunate. [SPEAKER_03]: Like when we spoke about this last season, like what is the alternative when you're engaged? [SPEAKER_03]: And you are going to get married and you cough the wedding day of like there's no like okay let's go back to boyfriend and girlfriend like they're it's just impossible so you're going to get break you're going to break up we're going to get married so but they're still love there so it's it's an impossible situation and I think the only thing that can resolve that sort of thing is time.

13:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like basically Zander defends the position of it was against everything that I thought was right, like it wouldn't have worked and Angus says like, well, we obviously still have like the spark we have a connection and Zander says, yeah, like I'll always like love you obviously, like that just doesn't go away. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it was really [SPEAKER_02]: interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: He basically says, you know, you were the one who didn't want to keep seeing each other, which I was like, that's a little bold for someone who like left someone at the altar. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: If someone leaves me at the altar, I'm probably not going to be like, let's date.

14:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're moving. [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, you're moving backwards in that situation, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And so, but yeah, so, Ania says, like, well, we're always going to do this. [SPEAKER_02]: We're always going to be like fighting back and forth. [SPEAKER_02]: It's my fault to your fault, whatever, whatever, but like, do you still love me? [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, like, well, yeah, of course, I always will. [SPEAKER_02]: And she says, well, I love you too. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if that means anything either. [SPEAKER_02]: And like, they compliment each other, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Ania says, like, oh, you're willing to stand up to danger, even when you have no weapons. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you already protect me. [SPEAKER_02]: And they do talk about like, [SPEAKER_02]: not being able to find anyone like each other in the world, and I did, here's the thing, like you said, we've been calling this, like we knew this was coming, it was very easy to tell that they had unfinished business, basically, with each other.

15:30 [SPEAKER_02]: And if this is the way the show chooses to present that, I'm totally fine with it because I was concerned that they were going to end up in bed together and then they were going to get right back together. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that's not really what I want for either of them. [SPEAKER_02]: So getting them to be in bed together has sex one last time and basically be like, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one more time. [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, he's like, wait, what was that? [SPEAKER_02]: What was like one more time? [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think there should be more? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like what maybe one more time. [SPEAKER_02]: Like maybe we're actually over now. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we can move on. [SPEAKER_02]: This just felt like the closure they needed to be able to move on. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fascinating. [SPEAKER_03]: And like I just feel like there's just no way that this is the one last time. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?

16:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like it felt very awkward. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it felt like after they had sex, like it was [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was Zander was basically like, well, that was nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, it's he was very like feeling it. [SPEAKER_02]: And Onya was like, yeah, well, of course it was good. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm a Spitfire. [SPEAKER_02]: And she's the one who brings up one last time anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: And then Zander agrees and says it felt like one more time. [SPEAKER_02]: So like, to me, this red as like, this is the last time we're gonna see this happen. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't give the like, [SPEAKER_02]: romance, rekindling, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, like I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it came off as that.

16:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I just like don't see this being it for these two. [SPEAKER_03]: Like I just, or maybe I don't, maybe it's more so I don't want it to be it for these two. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I want the worlds where they can work it out [SPEAKER_03]: you know, Zander gets over his like fear of commitment or his fear of becoming his father. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe on, uh, [SPEAKER_03]: times becomes a little less onya-e with her particular mislessness. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know onya needs to change.

17:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't really her fault throughout it, so throughout the issue, because it was really um standard having issues with himself. [SPEAKER_03]: But I [SPEAKER_03]: I want a world where these two can have the time and the space and it be more so of like right couple, wrong time and have them in X amount of years be able to work it out, rekindle, maybe it is more life experience for a zander, maybe it is more [SPEAKER_03]: becoming more human for Ania, like me, I don't know, but I want these two to end up together.

18:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want anybody else for either of them. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm mostly, I'm just like, it's fine if they're alone at the end of the show. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need them to have. [SPEAKER_02]: part. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like they're at this point in time with everybody else. [SPEAKER_03]: This is the couple and I more the most like interested in. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about Willow and Kennedy. [SPEAKER_03]: I cared about Willow and Tara, like I don't care about [SPEAKER_03]: of Buffy and Spike, I can't remember Buffy and Riley, like I don't hear about like the current couple situation or maybe like this show you're right, like maybe this show there is no couples at the end of the day, but then again, it's just like who wants that, like we all want like the [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's fair.

19:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, like, I guess you're right, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like, I did care about Willow and Tara. [SPEAKER_02]: I liked Spuffy in the very beginning of Spuffy and then they ruined it. [SPEAKER_02]: I was once like the biggest lasagna shipper. [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm more so just like, [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need any of these people with any of these people. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't love love no more. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need more. [SPEAKER_02]: I just think we got, we got our fish to fry. [SPEAKER_02]: Like we got shit to do. [SPEAKER_02]: But like again, it would be very zander on you to get together as the world is ending. [SPEAKER_02]: As that is what prompted the proposal in the first place. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, you need to read them, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's like, okay, well, then how can you even trust that? [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, the world's ending again.

19:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you only want to be with me when the world doesn't know you. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: But then that's saying something. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, if the world was ending right today, right now, who would you want to be with? [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you would just assume you want to be with your husband? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you would want to, yeah, the person that you love most. [SPEAKER_03]: You probably want to be with your mom because you're such a fucking mom girl. [SPEAKER_03]: But you could only be with one person, Jessica. [SPEAKER_02]: So you had to be around multiple people in the world. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't, the world is ending right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Together with all my loved ones. [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're not. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's one person. [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe, oh my god, that would be so tea if it really was your mom, but it's fine.

20:39 [SPEAKER_03]: If it is, then that's fine, that's your choice. [SPEAKER_03]: But what's on? [SPEAKER_03]: I know I wanted to be. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's really funny. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Just I just don't think any of these couples really Talk at my heartstrings in that way, but But it listen. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not when I first I saw them in Med together. [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, here we go But then when they have the conversation, I was like, okay, like I get it like we needed to like put a bow on this shit, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: Like if this is the bow I'm fine with it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you wouldn't, okay, so in the eight episodes, you wouldn't be disappointed if the show ends and they're like, oh, bye, bye, by Xander, I'm going to go off to Canada now, see you later.

21:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, one of them could die. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, [SPEAKER_03]: We really need to do a death draft at some point. [SPEAKER_02]: We should, we should, we'll do that next podcast because I have to think about it. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, one of them could die, like listen, I think there'll be bonded forever, but like, I don't think they need to be together. [SPEAKER_03]: Chilled heart. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, bye bye, see you later. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so that's like the zander and on-estuff. [SPEAKER_02]: I want to briefly touch on the, there's a few silly moments with like spike where basically the entire time he's like, oh, get that camera out of my face.

22:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, and he's like shirtless and then we find out later that like this is his bit and he's like, oh no, I need to get better lighting. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, wait, let me do that, let me take that back. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And on yet, eating the grapes like that was pretty funny, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so the thing is that like the Andrew throughout the episode is a very unreliable narrator as we see. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like I wonder how much of it was real and how much of it was obviously on it was not eating grapes, but like that was kind of the character. [SPEAKER_03]: I would I do like the idea of spike being like I need my lady to be good. [SPEAKER_03]: I need to be looking fresh like [SPEAKER_03]: Even though I quit smoking a little bit ago, like let me get my cigarette out.

22:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So I look cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Got to get the other jacket that I stole from principal woods is mom on. [SPEAKER_03]: Got to look snatched, but yeah, there was definitely throughout the documentary documentary. [SPEAKER_03]: You know the thing is like I keep thinking documentaries. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of like funny moments like that, which I did think it worked. [SPEAKER_03]: Like when he was doing that that scene with Anie and the grapes, he showed like was introving everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this is Buffy and had like this whole feel about her and she's [SPEAKER_03]: has her like wind blowing her hair and then spiked off.

23:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure it off and then he pans to this other blonde girl and he's like, I don't know what this girl's name is. [SPEAKER_03]: I ever got but there's that girl too. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there was definitely funny moments. [SPEAKER_03]: He was kind of cooking. [SPEAKER_03]: I liked the fact that in the very beginning he in his mind is in a library kind of like my [SPEAKER_03]: nerd shit all over the walls and then you see and that's like [SPEAKER_03]: you know, in his mind what he sees, but in reality he's like sitting on the toilet in the one bathroom in the entire house. [SPEAKER_02]: So like bro, you can't be doing that when like 30 people live in the same house.

24:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So you cannot be occupying the one bathroom or two, but you know, you can't just do. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't be occupying one of the two bathrooms. [SPEAKER_02]: No, you cannot because they were there's a shower line. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, everyone has their a lot, they need a chart in order to be [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure there's something. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, basically the entire point of the episode is like Andrew isn't necessarily a reliable narrator. [SPEAKER_02]: We like see his time in Mexico, which on [SPEAKER_02]: Every time it's like We want every time anyone mentions Jonathan's name.

25:02 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like there's fucking 50 boners in the room Good God Yeah, we can Jonathan again. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_03]: I love him and answers. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because that fucker has no other job except I think one tree hill and Gilmark rolls, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It's even one tree hill. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember him being in one tree hill [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: What up? [SPEAKER_03]: He's in Gilmour wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: What up? [SPEAKER_03]: What up? [SPEAKER_03]: What else is he in? [SPEAKER_03]: Literally just got more wrong. [SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck is his name is? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Doyle. [SPEAKER_02]: not to be as in Gilmore girls, I don't know what is actual. [SPEAKER_03]: John, thin, buffet. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, I can't be Googling stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, he's all right. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't [SPEAKER_02]: Mexico, Warren appearing to them, or him, excuse me, to Andrew.

26:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And like he basically keeps lying to Buffy, about like exactly what happened with the seal, saying that like, oh, I had to do it, and we're seeing like different versions of it, where it was like accidental, and then he's crying and sobbing over Jonathan's body, blah, blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_02]: But like Buffy basically is like, listen, bitch, you're the one who opened this fucking [SPEAKER_02]: quarterly, sigil thing and kids be acting crazy in this high school. [SPEAKER_02]: People are throwing rocks at principal. [SPEAKER_02]: What's head? [SPEAKER_02]: It's not right. [SPEAKER_02]: We got to get this situation figured out. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The school is kind of doing the best of [SPEAKER_03]: season one of Buffy.

26:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're doing the greatest hits. [SPEAKER_02]: We got creative physical girl. [SPEAKER_02]: A boy about to explode. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: A mirror called a girl fat. [SPEAKER_03]: Like everything that like possibly could have happened in the first two seasons of Buffy while Buffy was in high school is happening again. [SPEAKER_03]: And once again, principal, what is like, is this normal for Sanetio? [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's the hall mouth. [SPEAKER_03]: and Buffy's like, ooh, it's normal, but not all at once. [SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, anyone who gets close to the seals getting fucking possessed, like, it's bad news. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, principal would have possessed, and was like, you fucking swap bag, how dare you sleep with that vampire? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're a dirty, rotten vampire, sludding whore, vampire, vampire.

27:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Vampires. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I, okay, I thank you so much for bringing this up because I forgot to bring this up. [SPEAKER_02]: I, why, why are you saying vampire vampire? [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you doing that? [SPEAKER_03]: I, I loved him. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I made me hate him more and I already didn't like him. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't even say like how, how he said it. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't, I'm sure. [SPEAKER_03]: Vampire. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, stop it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not vampire. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like one thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking no other vampire and he's just trying to like make like nothing pisses me off. [SPEAKER_02]: Then someone who's like, hmm, I'm just gonna turn on this. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, different. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's trying to go for like a transit, Atlantic accent.

28:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he sucked at it. [SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: That's my news for him. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like him. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that we should be calling them vampires all the time now. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not. [SPEAKER_02]: This is like when we tried to pronounce Angelus or Angelus or whatever the fuck you say, and we never got it right. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a question. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Is there anything like if we just buy of it as lost Angelus and just call them Angelus, is that what his name is and the whole time? [SPEAKER_03]: Literally couldn't tell you. [SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know how to properly pronounce it and I never will. [SPEAKER_03]: because if it was just Angela's like Los Angeles, then we're stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it is, though. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it is. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's anything else.

28:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's Angela's. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, technically, Los Angeles is like, close on her face because it's like, it's really nice. [SPEAKER_03]: I guarantee you that Angel was like, love it, book it. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to be Irish anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: I now and from Los Angeles, actually. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, anyway, yeah, the vampires. [SPEAKER_02]: So basically, Buffy is like, bitch, you're gonna help us quiet down the seal. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking you with me. [SPEAKER_02]: And so her and, so it's Buffy and Drew spike in principle would. [SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as they get to the school, of course they're the fucking riots, because these kids just can't be goddamn chill.

29:34 [SPEAKER_02]: No one can be, no one has any chill around the hell, mouth. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, maybe we should, okay, this was apparently a thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not experience this, but it was around the time that we were in school. [SPEAKER_02]: We're like, for a while, sometimes kids were like getting school in like pods. [SPEAKER_02]: There were like these like metal shipping container sort of pods. [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me, what? [SPEAKER_02]: Let me Google this. [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's a thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a friend of the pod, Tommy has talked about this. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, 2000's school pod shipping container. [SPEAKER_02]: Tommy's birthday today. [SPEAKER_02]: They were, oh, happy birthday Tommy. [SPEAKER_02]: They were, yeah, they were called portables. [SPEAKER_02]: School pods are shipping containers.

30:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Early odds are most likely a portable classrooms. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they were doing like, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're not leaning anything they were basically these like long shipping containers and like they They there were different ones like on land. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember why they were used though like and this is relevant to buffy because I wish I remember those go oh because [SPEAKER_02]: Why can't we move these fucking kids out of Sunnydale High and put them in pods instead? [SPEAKER_02]: Because the problem is the proximity to a hell mouth.

30:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Get these kids and goddamn shipping containers so that they'll stop being wild. [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying in the 2000s, they loaded up children in shipping containers. [SPEAKER_03]: They unload them up. [SPEAKER_02]: They basically had like a magic, a big plot of land. [SPEAKER_02]: And we got 20 shipping containers on it. [SPEAKER_02]: And they lost rooms. [SPEAKER_03]: And once again, this would just not help the current situation. [SPEAKER_02]: But you move it away from the hell now, them Bing-Bang Boom. [SPEAKER_03]: You just, they recently built this school. [SPEAKER_03]: You just, oh, we're the hell now. [SPEAKER_03]: You just, this illusion, Jessica is not to put the children in shipping containers.

31:39 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not built this school over the day. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we already did that. [SPEAKER_02]: So we need to then, of course, correct after that, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, these kids are doing crazy things. [SPEAKER_02]: They're like having full ass riots at night in the schools. [SPEAKER_02]: And everyone then, we got like, [SPEAKER_02]: principle would and spike or fight in because of course Andrew and Buffy got shit to do like it's a whole thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, there's also like five students that are chanting with their eyes cut out downstairs. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, these children don't have eyes anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they'd rather be in pods and still have their eyes. [SPEAKER_03]: Still, I just feel like [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the solution is used a different government building in town, but well, okay, but I was just trying to offer a like budgetary friendly solution But sure they could use a different how different building in town, but She's they put the shipping containers on the school site.

32:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's no, I wasn't saying to put them on the school Say I was saying there has to be some sort of like farmland or something pop that bitch down It's a great idea anyway [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, so anyway, so spike and and principal would are like fighting all the students and in the kerfuffle in the scuffle. [SPEAKER_02]: We do get like a tiny moment of principal would being like, whoops, almost stabby stab spike. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, Donna, you should have, but he got then attached by a child, so and plot armor. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, yes, and for us, he's not going to kill spike. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course he's not, [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

33:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess and yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I was like, but it's spike is the star. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, yeah, that's it. [SPEAKER_02]: They need to keep having him on the show to take his shirt off because he also did that this episode. [SPEAKER_02]: How many? [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if he got like an extra $100 for every scene where they were like, take a shirt off. [SPEAKER_03]: Probably not because it seems as though nobody got treated well on that set from this is so fair From the reporters are being forced to abort their babies. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you who allegedly I'll tell you who who got treated well Danny strong Every time he showed up on set people are fucking drooling Bluffing probably got the best what is it called when they feed them the table with the stuff [SPEAKER_02]: uh, craft services.

34:09 [SPEAKER_02]: The craft services went hand that day. [SPEAKER_02]: Lobster mac and cheese. [SPEAKER_02]: Like they're getting the goods. [SPEAKER_02]: Angus beef, truffle on french fries. [SPEAKER_02]: Like they're really going all out for this fucker. [SPEAKER_03]: Truffle on french fries. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really like truffle. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you like truffle? [SPEAKER_03]: Mmm. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: Not really. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very, it's very, very strong. [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like olives, like if an olive just like grazes, a salad, then the entire salad tastes like olive. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's Maria. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't stand that. [SPEAKER_03]: And Truffle's kind of the same. [SPEAKER_03]: Like even if it's a small amount of Truffle, on a French try or wherever they were well- It overwhelms, which I don't appreciate very much.

34:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's fair. [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's so many other things I'd rather have on my fries than expensive as stupid ass Truffle. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you bestate, you'll find, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: But the pigs do need jobs. [SPEAKER_02]: So the start-up pigs, they be Truffle hunting constantly. [SPEAKER_02]: or actual pigs or I mean listen and my head it's only started to pigs that truffle hunt but sure some normal pigs do it too I'm pretty sure that that's one that's a main pigs job I mean all pigs are there aren't their specifically like truffle pigs are their specific [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm no people bleed like this is a best truffle hunt and pig around like you know.

35:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: No, there's no specific breed of pig designed as a truffle pig. [SPEAKER_03]: Someone needs to get on that. [SPEAKER_03]: Get a designer pig. [SPEAKER_03]: But only female pigs are truffle pigs, apparently. [SPEAKER_02]: A fucking course they are. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Female pigs are we fucking smarter, I bet. [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm something every day. [SPEAKER_02]: Who knew that? [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe all the, that must mean all the pigs in Star-Dua are gross. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Was there all shuffling? [SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember where we were. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: So, principle would try to kill Spike for like a hot minute, meanwhile, Buffy and Andrew are going down to the seal and continuously Andrew is trying to fucking lie.

36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to put a spin on his stories and Buffy's not having it. [SPEAKER_02]: And so Buffy is like, bitch, I'm a kill you. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a kill you because the seal demands blood or demand whatever from whoever opened it and so you did it. [SPEAKER_03]: Buffy also is an unreliable narrator at this point because she said that she and Willow have been studying and researching and they found out that the way to close the seal is to is basically the person that opened it. [SPEAKER_03]: They need [SPEAKER_03]: The seal needs their blood and that will close to seal. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an opposite type of thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lie as you find out.

36:59 [SPEAKER_03]: But she basically is like Andrew, you've got a stop lying because [SPEAKER_03]: You need to own what you did. [SPEAKER_03]: You are a murderer. [SPEAKER_03]: You are not the victim here. [SPEAKER_03]: You have to, you know, stop pretending like you're not responsible. [SPEAKER_03]: And she gets him like all worked up. [SPEAKER_03]: She does one of her like very. [SPEAKER_03]: like fuck you speeches, your worthless speeches. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, her little mean pet talks that she's been having. [SPEAKER_03]: You love doing those. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so she does that and he cries like a little baby bitch and the seal closes with a tear, which by the way, [SPEAKER_03]: I would be closing all the motherfucking seals in all the worlds that have been accepted me, but it's not blood, it's tears, which I feel like you kind of, you probably personally thought it's a little pathetic.

37:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wanted them to kill him. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like this is a perfect [SPEAKER_02]: It's going along with Buffy B in hard ass, Buffy, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, what did she say? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, like, I don't like having to give a bunch of speeches about how we're all gonna live because we won't. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, good people are gonna die, girls. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe me, probably you, probably right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like, [SPEAKER_03]: I did feel like him what she was saying. [SPEAKER_03]: She probably meant like I kind of do feel like that's she can't say this in front of everybody else, but yeah, she definitely meant it.

38:39 [SPEAKER_03]: But in the guys of like I'm going to make up this like hard-ass speech, I can be like a little transparent here because I can't in front of anybody else. [SPEAKER_03]: So she was like, we're all going to die. [SPEAKER_03]: We're fucked. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a feeling in trilling in gazillion, grand, papy bams down there. [SPEAKER_03]: And for fucked in the ass, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: But it did cry. [SPEAKER_03]: He did make him cry. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the seal closed. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank God. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, at least the kids will stop rioting for now, because all the kids that we're fighting, principal wouldn't spend.

39:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it stopped everything. [SPEAKER_02]: It saved the day, saved the day, at least for today. [SPEAKER_02]: And then we get like a moment from Andrew later, where he's again, like recording himself. [SPEAKER_02]: And he talks about like I did kill my best friend or it's like a fight coming. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'm going to live through it. [SPEAKER_02]: And probably that's the way it should be. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then we end the episode as if I'm supposed to feel fucking bad for this guy. [SPEAKER_03]: I think you are if our supposed to feel bad for this guy. [SPEAKER_03]: I did. [SPEAKER_03]: I did. [SPEAKER_03]: I think you are supposed to feel bad for him. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a heart so he can suck it. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't this I'm glad that he finally was able to have admit that he is responsible for what happened because this whole time he has been just like [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he hasn't really taken responsibility.

40:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, also like Jonathan wasn't his best friend. [SPEAKER_03]: So like that kind of like bullshit is like a little bullshit. [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, he took responsibility and that is good. [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know that that's that. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't feel necessarily moved by any of it. [SPEAKER_03]: But I did like I said, I did like that he took responsibility. [SPEAKER_03]: That is a good thing. [SPEAKER_02]: If he fucking lives through this season and we lose other people, I'll be fucking pissed. [SPEAKER_03]: Who is somebody that would send you to [SPEAKER_03]: What am I saying? [SPEAKER_03]: What do I want to say?

41:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry guys. [SPEAKER_02]: Who would you have said about dying instead of the most the most? [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a really long day. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: The five. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably on you. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'd be so mad if they were like offing on you and fucking Andrew gets to live. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were going to say Dawn. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm the real mad if they killed Dawn. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I love Dawn. [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be fucking awful. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: What happens if Buffy dies over? [SPEAKER_03]: And we're back to life again. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Fine, she's coming up to life twice. [SPEAKER_03]: That's not a vote, doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all the times. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, that's our, that's our buffie episode. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch the episode of Angel?

41:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I tried, but it was real boring. [SPEAKER_02]: And I know this, it was yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that you really like when but I haven't had the episodes, um, like of me really liking her in order to care about a Gwen centric episode with Gun. [SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, oh, no, it's happening. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really care. [SPEAKER_03]: They're all dressed up in stereotypical Asian attire and that's what's happening. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, I like Gwen and I liked what she did this episode, but I also felt like, oh, now we're like doing a whole hern gun thing. [SPEAKER_02]: When like her and Angel had like very good chemistry in my opinion. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like the long and the short of it is like Cordelia's pregnancies revealed.

42:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So they're all trying to like figure out the fuck is going on with that because like she only been pregnant for a few weeks and bitches like a month's pregnant and that thing. [SPEAKER_02]: whatever the fuck is growing inside her has like either a lot of limbs or something else is going on because like that is not normal. [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever was happening, I mean maybe I'm just not that far along enough to be able to have weird ass shit like that happening, but now look right. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I've seen videos of like [SPEAKER_03]: people like babies like sticking their arm out like kind of like that. [SPEAKER_02]: But there makes me want a vomit. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like so alien and fucking weird. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

43:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I I like I saw Ash like [SPEAKER_03]: when he kicked, like movement, like I didn't see like a actual foot print, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying, oh, who was it? [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what are my cousins or something? [SPEAKER_02]: Was like, oh, yeah, there was a time where like, my kid kicked me and I could literally like see the shape of the shape she thin. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember who said it is the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I know it was probably, but also it could have been maybe depending on where the placenta is, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you have the anterior or what have the posterior level, I'm just saying, like we are both pregnant and we have no experience. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not supposed to be realistic.

43:45 [SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to be, you know, it looks like that shit was about to rip itself out of stomach. [SPEAKER_03]: Or like this entity is really, really, really, really strong. [SPEAKER_03]: So of course, when the baby kicks, [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be forceful. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Great, nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that it's a baby in there? [SPEAKER_03]: Is it, it's probably a demon of some sort. [SPEAKER_02]: Or it's coming out all thoughts of fucked up. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not coming out. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to come out like, even if it is humanoid. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be like fucking red or like purple. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not going to come out normal. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not going to look like Connor did. [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying this baby is going to be a person of color. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're not accepting it.

44:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you're saying? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like to say this person is a person of Sesame Street color. [SPEAKER_03]: It's this like, this is like primary color. [SPEAKER_03]: God damn racist. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's what if and what if it comes out Lauren colored and then it's like, well, maybe Connor isn't the die. [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha [SPEAKER_02]: because he's like this one or my nose the whole time like how the fuck did I not sense that this was going on. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yes, so we're like we're researching. [SPEAKER_02]: We're researching.

45:06 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a little Wesley Fred moment where he basically is like, yeah, I did like Lila. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I like her. [SPEAKER_02]: I admit it. [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We also reveal that [SPEAKER_02]: Angel reveals that Angelus didn't kill Leila like yeah, he fed off her blood, but she was dead when he like found her so that gives them I think a little bit of a hint towards Cordelia before we like reveal her at the end. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, they're basically just trying to figure out the fuck is going on with Cordelia, or she's made with Cordelia's pregnancy. [SPEAKER_02]: And Lauren is like, gets some sort of a spell. [SPEAKER_02]: That's supposed to give him back his abilities to like, [SPEAKER_02]: sense shit, you know.

45:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And while he's doing that fucking here comes Cordelia trying to snick snick snick snick, she's like, rowing it up, like snicking in, thinking she's all cool and shit. [SPEAKER_02]: And then Bing, Bing, boom, lights on guns, guns, guns on that bitch. [SPEAKER_02]: Kacha. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: I, this is, I do not see this part. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, so I'm going to hold it down. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, like I said, I stopped after a bit. [SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, so Lauren is basically doing a ritual and he's chanting and then it's actually very funny because he has like this object, but you can't see what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Cordilla is like Snicks, Nick, and has a knife because she wants to stab him. [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's when the lights turn on and there's angel. [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to run, but there's Fred, and there's Wesley and both of her gone, she got her.

46:34 [SPEAKER_02]: caught red handed. [SPEAKER_02]: She got caught and then Lauren has like, he's revealed that what he's holding is a magic eight ball and he asks if Cordelia has been a bad girl and he turns it over and the thing on it says definitely. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was there. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's how it ended. [SPEAKER_03]: That was the end of the episode. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: So then I'll clock back in next episode. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the, I mean, you didn't miss much the other thing that happened was like you said the one and gun stuff were essentially she meets up with a contact to give her some papers on like how to steal something she meets she goes to angels headquarters or whatever meets with gun who's the only one like kind of left there.

47:16 [SPEAKER_02]: and basically says like, oh, I need your help saving a little girl because they cap, they basically captured this little girl and they're imprisoning her and they're going to kill her. [SPEAKER_02]: So gun goes and helps and they kind of have like an interesting like connection like they're both good at stealing things. [SPEAKER_02]: They both have like a little bit of a [SPEAKER_02]: and she basically hoodwinks gun into thinking that there's a child in danger. [SPEAKER_02]: When realistically she just wanted him to be like a distraction so that she could break into a safe and get a device that was called Lisa like L-I-S-A. [SPEAKER_02]: And apparently what this device does is that it helps control her electrical powers because if you'll remember if she touches anyone it like shocks them, right?

48:04 [SPEAKER_02]: She's never really being able to be like skin to skin with anyone. [SPEAKER_03]: And so yeah, gone like gone does eventually help her. [SPEAKER_02]: He like agrees after she tells the truth. [SPEAKER_02]: And then she basically like there this is a little device. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it goes on like her spine or something. [SPEAKER_02]: So she's like bare back. [SPEAKER_02]: And then he of course has to like touch on her back to see if he gets shocked. [SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't. [SPEAKER_02]: And then they get like little saucy and they kiss. [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, well, I don't know if this is just a, [SPEAKER_02]: like a what's like a beta test like this isn't I we don't know that this is actually going to like work long term and he's like well that's okay you can just restart my heart if you need to Oh, they definitely get down to business.

48:57 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I guess he's just over Fred now. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess so. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So it was just a little kiss like I don't think like, you know, there was a little bit of like a Fred Wesley thing, but it was mostly him just confiding in her about his feelings for Lila. [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like as like romantic. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why it was like, oh, we're now we're doing a gun one thing because like I said, Gwen and Angel had good chemistry. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, yeah, but eventually we have to get Cordelia back with Angel, I guess. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, who no, maybe he'll get with his granddaughter. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Stop it. [SPEAKER_02]: But also Connor was connering all over the episode and it was so annoying.

49:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Please throw bad. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, go. [SPEAKER_03]: I do. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: This, this actor must be the most annoying person in the galaxy. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, just because like if you cannot play to the most like annoying people in the world without being the most annoying person in the world. [SPEAKER_02]: He's awful. [SPEAKER_02]: He's awful. [SPEAKER_02]: He at one point he's like, you guys are just upset because you don't like me. [SPEAKER_02]: like why are you having me that we're having a baby and they're like literally you slept with someone your father is in love with and impregnated her and now this baby who's been in her body for two weeks is the size of a baby that was been in her body for eight months.

50:20 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're a little concern. [SPEAKER_03]: We're at the end of concern. [SPEAKER_02]: Understandably actually because you are the product of two vampires and she was like a higher being. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like the fuck is that going to create bro? [SPEAKER_02]: but he's all like, this is my family. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be a daddy and it's like so annoying. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, yeah, but also Cordelia is like feeding this stuff into his head. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and he know and he still did figure it out because he's a fucking dumb fuck. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank God someone else on the Angel team has brains and they figured out that [SPEAKER_02]: Finally, they figured out that maybe the call is coming from inside the building. [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how that all shakes out next episode because Cordelia done been caught now.

51:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And they got guns on her. [SPEAKER_02]: I love it whenever Wesley holds up a gun because it's just like so funny to me. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I know he's all like badass now. [SPEAKER_02]: But I still picture him as the Wesley from like the first time we saw him in Buffy. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's like so little fucking nerd. [SPEAKER_03]: I heard that he is the king of character development though. [SPEAKER_02]: So Did you hear this from one Tom Palmer? [SPEAKER_03]: Like everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I was just a Tom loves him. [SPEAKER_03]: Shout out Tom. [SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot people love him. [SPEAKER_02]: He's fine. [SPEAKER_02]: He's fine. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't hate him, like a hate Connor. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, Connor, everybody. [SPEAKER_02]: He's a good actor, at least.

51:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess, kind of sucks about his hair is so fucking annoying every other year's bad. [SPEAKER_02]: It's so floppy. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, stop it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah, so that's basically that. [SPEAKER_02]: Those are our episodes. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, next up, great stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Great stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Next up is season 7 episode 17 of Buffie. [SPEAKER_02]: Lies my parents told me. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. [SPEAKER_02]: Are these like lies like you could do anything you want? [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're going to be a star. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's just like, you know, if you go to college and work hard, then you're going to get, oh my gosh.

52:28 [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, did we know that the actor that plays Connor was married to Alexis Bladeau? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they met on the set of madmen. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Alexis Flodell, why you'd be doing this? [SPEAKER_03]: Or we'd get more, always be sad girl in everywhere. [SPEAKER_03]: How were you married to this man for eight years? [SPEAKER_03]: You are to be eight years? [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know was that long. [SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: She also dated someone else who was on Gilmore Girls for a time. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they ever got married. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they was dated. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.

53:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so lies my parents told me, could be anything, could be everything's gonna be all right. [SPEAKER_02]: Big time lie, could be because I said so, could be because I know better when they didn't know any better. [SPEAKER_02]: Season 4 episode 17 of Angel is inside out. [SPEAKER_02]: Will this feature Amy Polar as a joyous little thing? [SPEAKER_02]: you in sight out. [SPEAKER_02]: I told you it's going to rip her inside out. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't need this. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want me to watch the episode?

53:49 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm fine. [SPEAKER_02]: I can watch it. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just mostly going to be annoyed because you got the perfect birth scene of literally stake myself queen in the rain. [SPEAKER_02]: Like beautiful birth story. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, just a little death. [SPEAKER_02]: Just a first story. [SPEAKER_02]: Just a first story. [SPEAKER_02]: But it was like, you know, it was a real life of a blood. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. [SPEAKER_03]: I, but I hope that Cordelia's baby is less [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, also I don't know if you saw this part of the episode because there was some moment when they were like well last time Cordelia was impregnated. [SPEAKER_02]: It was like overnight. [SPEAKER_02]: That is so funny that there is a last time Cordelia was impregnated.

54:32 [SPEAKER_03]: The whole time this this pregnancy storyline has been going on. [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, man, me like did this already, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: To be able to go. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, but they had to write it in because she was like, pregnant herself. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess that's just what we had to do. [SPEAKER_02]: So funny. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, also, fun fact. [SPEAKER_02]: I was doing some calculations today of like, because we're doing some pre-recording, whatever, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was doing some calculations. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, when we're releasing everything. [SPEAKER_02]: Literally, we are finishing up our [SPEAKER_02]: within like a week of starting at three years later. [SPEAKER_02]: So like almost down to the day.

55:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that awesome? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's everything. [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be back next time with some more buffy and angel coverage until then everyone here and if the lesson.