Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 7 Episode 11 - Showtime

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before Just be how never ended with those All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_03]: I need a partner for a ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a worries to the side Just ask See the word and I'll be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 Isn't needed pretending I got a hand I can land Who's when you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shit 90's Show's Dot Me Shit 90's Show's Dot Me was not filmed before live studio audience

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[SPEAKER_01]: are you ready to say another day?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So are we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to shit 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll stop me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just early in here with my co-host Sarah Humphrey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sarah, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the new class is on my nerves, hate them all, except one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they are insufferable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the final season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's add in four randoms that we have the option of killing off if we want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like kids these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like an old, honestly, because they're just skiing on my gay on my real nerves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, as we always say, as most people say, he is

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[SPEAKER_00]: or love is hates not the opposite of love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's apathy and I hang hate them, but I feel like there's something towards them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not boring me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a call-a-win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think by biggest issue with them, which we'll obviously get into in a little more detail is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding it hard to differentiate them from one another except for the fact of like there's one that like has a crush on willow and be And there's one that's a dead and beyond that like I I guess there's two that are dead, but one that's coming back as a ghost

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[SPEAKER_00]: you that's dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have differentiated them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have sorted it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have beautiful done my jiles would be so proud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so proud of me and all I need is a there there from a father figure to get me going through the day and he

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is so proud because I know I am aware I know which one's which and I can call them by name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so proud of myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can call them by, okay, this is Miranda from Lizzy McGuire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, that's that's how I know them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we're talking buffy season seven episode 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had to speak them to behave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose the basic parenting technique slash they got like front row seats like they were like they got an aerial view of Buffy fighting Grandpapy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like okay, what do they have to complain about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they had a lot to complain about, which is they complained the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is what my issue is, is that they were just so complaining and it's just like, dude, if you're not, and I honestly, I mean, okay, it's two things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, Eve, who's the dead one, the blonde.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's awake, she was mistaken to skies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she was like putting little seeds in their heads and that's what Mistique does best is they put doubt in people's minds or use them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will give them that and then the other thing is that they are obviously supposed to be super young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of the point because they're potential slayers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is, I think we're supposed to get them some slack and it's also like supposed

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[SPEAKER_00]: that claims that she is almost aging out of it, Kennedy, and she's the only one, the only and that's one that hits on Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the only one that I don't find inseparable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her name is Kennedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put respect upon her name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean we get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we start the episode is actually like Rona who's like the newest potential slayer gets in a town gets attacked by the I list you grow her in the trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so excited for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's most like she's kind of like the most annoying and the most whiny Which she comes off the bus and she checks the the yellow pages, which thank god, but so far out her own

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[SPEAKER_00]: page in the yellow book because could you imagine if Buffy was like, I'm just gonna leave the shit in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is such a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm sure she went through every single yellow page or at some point some big evil dude took it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, I got to find out where Buffy lives let me rip her out in the page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's like, look, Anna gets attacked by the guardians.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've just been calling them the Isleist men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are these a bring us the gatherers and a hunter gatherers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but they're just the Isleist dudes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have no eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have giant knives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what their thing is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Crooked knives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not, yeah, curved, not a single straight and I don't shame, you know, if you have a little curve, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't shame, but they're very, very curvy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're like, I'm going to attack you Rona because you're stupid and you just came off the bus and you went straight to the other pages and then Buffy is there is like, hey, go on somebody, my own size and then, which doesn't sense because Rona is kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really doesn't make much sense at all, but she's just trying to do her trash talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But luckily, she kills them right away and takes Rona and it's like, come on, Gerly Pop, we're having a huge sleep over at my house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Slum, all the potential slayers are there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a great time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last we left off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was only Kennedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, the one that hits on Willow, Molly, the British one that insists on wearing her hair in Patel's, even though she's like 17 years old, and I think that you age out of Patel's, oh, eight caps, unless you're going for some like slutty bedroom role play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only time we re-implement in and do space funds count as pitils.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, is that the chokehold space buns had on us as a teenager or at least on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I walked in freshman year in my dad's trackies suit and my space buns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was the baddest bitch in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, you couldn't tell me otherwise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I definitely looked disgusting and terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, I don't think unless you're playing a sport, I don't think that there's a place for space buns anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, and then we have Annabelle is also dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She will get previous dead one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have now doubled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we have four more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's blonde.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is kind of like a sat, she is a terrible, she's Southern, Southern accent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what they were like, listen, if we're going to get a bunch of teenage girls, the only way we'll differentiate them is what their accents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this one will be the Southern bill, which was why we had to kill off one of the British ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if blonde Southern dead dead, um, Chloe is Miranda from Lizzie McGuire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, oh, she's one of the more annoying ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why no American.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't recognize like it's just Miranda's accent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not I hated the haircut, but also I hated Miranda's haircut and also I kind of hated Miranda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, on Lizzie McGuire, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always feel like she was jealous of Lizzie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So jealous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was a Lizzie girl through a, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was the urban dancing queen of the galaxy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did not like Miranda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like Gordo was her ultimate BFF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved Gordo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that there's some like behind the scenes stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the actress was like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Maria was there and then Violet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did not recognize her as Felicia Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Felicia Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she is, she is like, well known in like, she does like D&D stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's very into like nerd culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I knew her from Dr. Harble's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my issue was I was too distracted by her student hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She does have a stupid hat on the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because they need a thing, again, like it's, okay, this is the Southern one, this is the British one, this is the one with the hat, this is the one with the hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have her be, this is the red-headed one because we already have Willow so we can't, that's her thing, I know, but Willow also used to wear stupid hats, but she's evolved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's grown out of the stupid hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a, I mean, like, she, you, the sole person of color in this crew aside from people that like might have some like Hispanic background, but yeah sure sure yeah the only black person in the light of interest layers and the newest member and the newest member who is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: also the most annoying and whiny and like but also okay so we find out at some point that she like just found out five minutes ago that she's a potential player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah she's the one who's found out most recently and it seems like she found out and then like immediately hopped on a bus to come to Sunnydale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like not only that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of these, because a lot of the potential slayers they all had their own watchers and stuff, right, which are like slowly also being killed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like none of them have ever even seen vampires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A few of them have seen like photos of vampires, which I also have questions about, because I thought you couldn't capture them in a photo just like yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like blurry, so like, was it even higher who really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So none of them, so this is like, like you said, this is very much like they're doing their quote-unquote training, but it's really just a circle jerk of Buffy Sachs, Buffy Sachs, we're all gonna die, we're all gonna die, led by Eve, who's not really Eve, who's secretly mystique, the first AKA, but we'll say, we did get something out of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is another faith mention, not by name, but that's who they were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the second time, yeah, he has been mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's come back baby, a manifesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I now at this point, I kind of feel as though faith has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: released from the clutch hole, the clutches of angel, and cooperated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her too busy over there and I'll tell you I'll tell you what they're busy with later, but they're busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think like she maybe has been able to leave now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the case, I have no idea why nobody has released her from prison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or not released her, but like how heavy the pilot's dude's not got into her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sitting duck, but also I feel as though and maybe like that's the thing like maybe Giles feels as though or Buffy, whomever the Scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like she's safest in a max account maximum security present.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if we don't want her to die and then one of the potential slayers who are not

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[SPEAKER_00]: ready and are really fucking stupid to get initiated or chosen or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we need to keep faith as secure as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but back when Dark Willow was a thing, Jonathan and Andrew were in prison and they're like, well, they're not safe there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Willow can get to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'd think they'd have the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what we might get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, maybe Jonathan and Andrew were in jail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Faith is in prison, bitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you not seen aren't just the new black?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Be learned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Be learned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we may end up getting some sort of a, like, catching us up on what Faith's been up to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe she's like, not in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: president anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she's maybe she's out for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like there's definitely going to explore something with faith because she's been mentioned twice now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we're rounding up potential slayers, it makes all the sins in the fucking world to have faith on your side because let's face it when you have like

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[SPEAKER_01]: These shmucks, these newbies, they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Faith has actually killed people and has experience helping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's badass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you may want to grab her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in a situation like this, it's kind of an all-hands-on-deck thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if they're willing to untie Andrew and let him pal around, like, why can't we have faith here, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we're going to see her at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still do think that she's in prison, um, they're probably some like behind the scenes like we have to do a lot of paperwork to release her from her contract of angel and like let her come back and then that works probably had to make a deal with each other is probably so a big headache.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, going back to the

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[SPEAKER_00]: are I made a clear who I think is the only worthy one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like any of them slash like who is your best candidate at this time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I don't, I don't particularly care about any of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say the one we know the most about as you mentioned as Kennedy, um, she's like hitting on Willow, she's actually seems to be intrigued by things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She seems to have the most positive outlook of all of them all, or the, um, like, buffy of like, we're gonna do this shit and get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, like, we're gonna fight until the death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else is kind of like a negative Nancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, she probably is the one I like the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did love the switcheroo, the like undercover mystique as Eve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did think it was really fucking dumb that these I list guys just left Eve's dead body to be discovered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have had so much better covert spy operations if you hadn't left the dead body and the other things Sarah is Everyone's freaking out like oh my god any of us could be mystique literally all you have to do is come to touch them and if your hand goes through them Then not good like how easy is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we heard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we confirmed last episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a scene between Andrew and dead Jonathan, not well, not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of Warren.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the dead Warren where he's like, oh, I can only take the body of someone who's like dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not corporeal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you try to touch me or handle go through me, how easy is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone holds hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly think it was just like, man, Misty was like, okay, if I don't say that to Andrew, I will get sexually harassed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I might be evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I am not a dick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew did try to touch him and it was the end of it through him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's I say there's a way around this like to me It's not a plot hole per say it's more so just idiocy on the point of the Isleis guys for leaving the dead body there to be discovered by buffie and zander and then like it becomes very obvious that you have a mole in your midst yeah and like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying they're all doing like sleepover stuff and they didn't do like, I don't know, better stick as a board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there are games that you would play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's like unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Horial, can they hold things?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Eve, here's the popcorn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, passes her the popcorn bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes through her hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I truly don't know because, honestly, I have a feeling that this whole plot is a little Swiss cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been asking so many more questions than I normally do, for example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, hey, like this is weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how can if Drew's not dead, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's undead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but she's undead and she was dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, like, Buffy's not dead either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how is she?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She died twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She died and she came back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, then she died twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole reason faith is as slayer as because she died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: girl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not faith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes, but also who was the other girl?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any mantra, Kendra?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, um, you, um, you need to get your slayer fact straight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels as though there is some potential from for some plobbles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: agree it's like very convenient right and so it's very convenient no one touches Eve but luckily like you know they come in and they're like oh my god that's not even posture and posture and get away from them and I love Mystique basically being like you're getting a special visitor tonight but just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's just like once the night the lights go down you will be getting a special visitor and it's like, oh wait, is it the pizza man that turns into a stripper?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's Grand Pappy Vamps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm we're not going to prank call you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to prank you with Grand Pappy and all his little eyelash minion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the eyelash minions did kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: prank because they were just chilling outside like little creeps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like, they didn't go inside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were just like, hey, we're hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We clocked in on the lawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like trying to prep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, they're all like you said they're jumping downers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't they they don't believe they have no faith in us because they have no faith in Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they really can't do much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to like pop over to Willow because we talk a little bit about like the kind of you Willow thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything we do know about Kennedy is that girl is rich.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has a summer house in the Hampton's like that's rich rich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another reason why Kennedy is by far my favorite British.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she was rich with a name like Kennedy It's a good name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna bring me with you to help dance Kennedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we would love to use some or as a verb, please So will also get to call from the coven which is exciting a call

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the Coven didn't call Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Coven got stuck with Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh my gosh, guys, what did you do with up to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, but we got to get down to business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, like, why do we have to get her on the phone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we really wanted to dials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This year was like out to like go to the restroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is she the seer would have been like, no, no, no, don't call it this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wait 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, she was unavailable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that phone call was so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, hi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you working on like the bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bobo bo

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Willow also is now practicing her magic to keep out grandpapey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately she's losing steam like she doesn't have enough power to be able to keep up this like wall that keeps him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody got to run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Run bitch is run and we're taking down Isle students as we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When grandpapey goes through the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone is running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we learned later that this was like a pre-planned endeavor where Buffy stays behind to take care of Grand Pappy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Zander leads everyone else, including Andrew, who is free from the shackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he got released, which

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stockholm syndrome, but I'm enjoying Andrew more and more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's honestly the Stockholm syndrome because I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're complaining about the potential slayers being whiny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's the biggest whiner I've ever met in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wants to be included.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm so bored and I just want to be part of the group, which is

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, like maybe a lesson to be learned if we don't leave out the losers and the weirdos and the freaks, maybe they won't go kind of crazy and like try to take over the world with demons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At one point though, Dawn has left alone with him and I'm like, who allowed this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy was evil like two seconds ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get to hear her for herself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is the best hair in the entire show and the best outfits and she can take care of herself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a very unbold statement to make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, please do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to officially eliminate all potential players and just hire Don for the job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's really fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, why are we not including Dawn in this secret plan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is not potential slayer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's part of the Scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is a full-fledged Scooby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we leaving her out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they just like to leave Dawn out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just are like, and she's too young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A bit, she's seen shit, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has to mature then all the potential slayers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had to watch the entire house get destroyed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the first one who discovers Tara's dead body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she's left alone with Andrew for like a hot minute and listen, the way Dawn destroys people with her words is one of my favorite qualities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When she says, maybe you shouldn't have killed your only friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, burn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Burn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before she leaves the room, Andrew asks if she wants to play Kevin Bacon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, haven't you ever looked at that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was like a, I thought it was like a, like a playhouse sort of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, okay, one of us is Kevin Bacon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, reserve for nighttime only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's six degrees of stuff and Kevin Bacon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you know what that is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, like Kevin Bacon is in like so many things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so many people that like you can say like Johnny Depp and then within six people,

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[SPEAKER_00]: or six movies or shows or whatever, six degrees, then you can get back to Kevin Bacon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that makes more sense than I was just like, is this some weird game he made up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, so anyway,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrews also with the it's it's it's zander it's willow it's a dawn and all the potential slayers in Andrew and zander leads them to basically his construction site which has scaffolding so they get an incredible view of the show that is about to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, they really got the best seats in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always said in Broadway, sometimes the best seats in the house is front row, Mezzany and not Yorkshire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I believe in the whole stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get a good, yeah, it's like an aerial view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Buffy ends up there with Graham Pappie, who she did get, he has a little bit scarring now on his ugly ass face because she threw some holy water at him earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the man couldn't get any uglier, and yet, here he is, and yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just me, I, okay, he's so ugly, but the way this actor or whoever is in this costume

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[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me almost of, um, to remember the episode that Todd came on for with those like gentlemen guys where they have this and remember the silly dudes that like walked behind them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it kind of reminds me of that because I can't take it seriously because it's so silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but they were also haunted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were haunted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's less haunted and more silly bits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is like his movements are really silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of like, you know, early buffy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes it is a little bit silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate him so bad, but yeah, his movements are a little silly, because it's just like very, who am I thinking of?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just like, I don't know, you know, like the goofy fucking gargoyle and like, a hunchback and anishijom, like that energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or if he's giving, what's the, okay, you know, the Hyena's in line, King, there's the one that he's like literally was the other example that I was going

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like there's something involved and that's so funny tip of my tongue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like a goofy fuck, you know He is a goofy fuck and like all the everyone's watching as Buffy's like fighting him She at one point she has like a giant pickaxe thing and he gets it and it's like, oh, no, it's the thing back I'm gonna have him and no because she pulls the good ol What are those things that Dexter uses a garot?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's called a garot, it's like the thing that you use to choke people out from behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know who I was thinking about, just like Igor also, Igor like, Fuck it's Igor, the people in who Igor is, anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Igor, Igor from what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like Frankenstein, they have like, it's just like some like goofy helper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he has the eyes, and he just like hobbles around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what reminds me of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like also that, okay, and a giraff, it's what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giraff, giraff, I think it's what it's called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, picture like a wire that you like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: take you grab someone by a neck and you choke them out from behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she kind of does that, but it's like, uh, I don't know, maybe just a random piece of wire or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Count.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't understand why this to the job and not any of her other efforts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But once again, who am I to question, Buffy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it really sharp wire?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what I will, I'm not, I'm not necessarily in defense of this, but like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say it makes sense to me that even though a stake to the heart wouldn't work on Grand Pappy that fully decapitating him would because that does work on vampires like decapitating them does work right yes and like what he's supposed to do if he doesn't have a head he's gonna grow it back you know like that'd be a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I mean, a little bit of Chokees is, he did look like he was enjoying it at first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people do enjoy a little bit of Chokees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grab happys into some shit, just say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been down there for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's tried a little bit of everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes he likes that flavor, I feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know much, but that is what I seem to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, for some piece, Grand Pappy, I did not enjoy a second of what she were on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy you're on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, there's not other Grand Pappy's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, there's no Grand Mommies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that he's the only one if you had to ask me like obviously we know that the the the first slash mistake has other people under their control like over the world

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm limited number of these aisleist dudes hanging around like there's so many people were like Please please me me take out my eyes take out my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to wear the cape and have the jagged dagger Please this is the issue is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: secret societies and cults are cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is why like when people sign up for this shit, it's so easy to get these followers because it's fun to be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: involved in something in a group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So people just want to be included.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have volunteered to be I list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love a cold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I got the opportunity, I might join one one day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, yeah, I mean, I already did kind of join a cult, so, um, Greek life, um, anyway, anyway, yeah, this is where Buffy does like her big speech because we know that we know that this was pre-planned based on like the other scenes that kind of interspersed with the fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and Buffy says the thing, we say every time we end the song, yes, I realize how you just got when she said this,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, like, nearly cried because I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why, yeah, bad of which, like, a couple, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like this is this we've been like doing this podcast, um, Buffy for like two years, three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in doing this podcast, it shows taught me for like six years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like the fact that like you for Buffy in particular say, like, and here ended the lesson at the very end of the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've been doing so for three years with no knowledge that it would ever come back into, um, rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an agile set,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got emotional, actually, this is very kismant, like I just feel as though it just felt, it just gave me kind of like the warm fuzzies and like a little bit like the stall jack and blah, blah, blah, blah, and like a bunch of, a bunch of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I got very emotional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really like, oh, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I felt more so, I think I really loved it more so because,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remembered that Giles was the one who originally said it and like it really felt like student has become the teacher sort of a situation where she is imparting the wisdom and she is teaching these like these potential slayers like, no, I am badass and like don't disrespect me, don't doubt me, like we've got this, I've got this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that to me it felt more like, but he's all grown up sort of a vibe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that that was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's like two other, two other big things that we got to talk about with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because If you were wondering where all the eyes went, I have found all the eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have found it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have found the eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so on yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and jiles are like we need to find more information about the first and like why he's doing what he's your why they're doing what they're doing at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing it and there's like one source that they haven't gone to yet and it is this eye guy Botox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but but I love I loved a buffie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really felt like in a moment where she was like Botox's eye on a bit bell

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just want to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like no, like we should not be going to this guy because of my demons can open the portal Right, and she again, she is like an X demon, so she's having to reach out to old demon contacts to be able

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[SPEAKER_01]: to open this portal, they have to go to this guy named Tort, who, on you slept with once upon a time, she offers to sleep with him again if he opens the portal, but he's disgusted by her humaneness because he only liked her as a demon, jiles ends up threatening him basically being like, well, guess what, but if he's going to kill all your little demon friends unless you do this, so, you know, that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they basically go to belljocks as I, who is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a big gross ball of eyeballs trapped in a cage, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like kind of pimply kind of eyey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so nasty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give him some new skincare regimen, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, no, no, maybe he needs to try some retinol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something needs to happen for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe he needs those eye drops that start with the V.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How would he even apply anything though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he even had, I've I zined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how does he even have hands?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he just an eyeball and a cat?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is he trapped in the cage?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's all knowing except for the fact that he doesn't know anything about the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just knows everything about now and before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So unhelpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So unhelpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of helpful because Yeah, he can't see into the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can only see into the present in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's all knowing but not all knowing into the future So yeah, it's so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, the first evil which is the first

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[SPEAKER_01]: can't be destroyed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason that it even is attacking is that it is exploiting a disruption in the slayer's mind, which was he says is caused by the slayer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when Giles and Agni are done talking to him, they have like a whole conversation, which is basically the whole reason this happened is because Buffy came back from the dead because they revived her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: um that like they're now responsible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were not jiles, but all the scoobies were responsible for this because they brought Buffy back to life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ania basically says like, we would have been better off if like we didn't bring her back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all would have been better off if they didn't bring her back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would have avoided season six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The show would have ended at five and we could have easily stated that Buffy

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[SPEAKER_00]: and we can't say that anymore, we can't say that, we can't say that, or at least at the very least, the best finale of a show that's ever existed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, although I think what happens here, what's gonna happen is we're gonna get all of emails and a lot of people saying, but the musical episode, but the musical episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we say but was it worth it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's this community say how many seasons in a movie six seasons and a movie fuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, never mind Shit Okay, yeah So yes, so basically Uh, they find out that it's the Scooby's fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the whole reason this is all happening to begin with and that he's exploiting this whole thing is because Buffy came back from the dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we sure it's not the second time she came back to get dead and not the first time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you would have think he would have fought back a long time ago if that was the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but also like glory had to do like he had to get into line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, maybe he sent a glory or an atom or like maybe he's like responsible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's responsible for the shitty writers in season six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because honestly, that is the greatest evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's ever, that is, that is the greatest evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, that is very true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we basically found out in the whole reason that everyone is talking about taking on Grand Pappy and like needing to get him out of the way is because he is what's guarding spike which they need to basically solve the problem of the first because he's the one who's been like infected by I or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to solve it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: The truth is, is that Buffy wants to get the spike back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need spike back in the fold because we can't have him muttering to himself all season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we see like to round out the rest of the storylines we have Spike who's been like tied up in a cave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has this whole dream that he was able to escape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, it's the first aka mistake, aka fake Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just taunting him and Spike is muttering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show come for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show come for me, which is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, eventually, yeah, but you have to put in a rock hard enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to know, work spike, like just because, like, you're there doesn't mean that you'll necessarily come right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The spike gives the, like, okay, because we have seen him have sex like in the, the broke down the house, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen him have dump their dumpster sex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, let's pretend Spike is having bed sex, like, you know, normal aspects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've always seen that, but Buffy was invisible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't visible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you as he is he a top guy or a bottom guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except for when Buffy is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she like flips them over like she's like I'm going to take control, but he starts off on top every single time and then they like the fact that she's like I'm going to dominate you now I can see that domination let's go yeah I see that um so uh the other you know that jury was a pillow princess

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[SPEAKER_00]: person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, but where is all my dolls?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They must watch us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want the dolls to watch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's into some kinky ass shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who's into dolls?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if you're right over this person is, but maybe, you know who Emma Roberts is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's Julia Roberts' niece, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in like a bunch of stuff, a bunch of stuff and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't she like a decoy or something?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's even like a bunch of like Ryan Murphy stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is very into dolls, like, genuinely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like whatever floats to your boat people, but also couldn't really be true, isn't it dolls?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no!

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I, she does like doll halls on TikTok.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and they're all like creepy dolls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like personal ones at the eyeballs that when you lay them back their eyes closed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of those, but there's also like this other type of doll that are very unsettling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they're called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have big eyes, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's big eyes, big eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget what they're called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, I know those and I hate those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she's very into those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, yeah, I mean, definitely drew a loop into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, also interesting to note that before Grand Pappy gets taken out, um, the first as Eve, when they're planning the attack, the night attack, yes, they tell Grand

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I assume, at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, but at the end of the episode, we get Buffy savings spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we have spike thinking that Buffy is mystique, which Buffy is Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She saves him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey!

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I, I, it, it has that she can't be in the basement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole entire need to happen needs to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he like cries and he has like a, he's like one of his eyes is like swollen shut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a breath, like he's, you know, because they, the first was like, she's never going to come like your delusional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't care about you, like you're going to suffer here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might as well join my team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's been saying this or they've been saying this for a really and am I like rude to, I don't mean to keep misgendering the mystique, the first evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, okay, we have a kind of key and correct me myself to they, but yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, because they can kind of take over anybody at any time and you don't know, we don't even know what their true form looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think biological damage does make me feel like it's a little bit more of a female energy than a male, but it's a non male at the very least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but anyway, the yeah, yeah, we see Eve again for that moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any like, what money would you put on that this actress is actually southern versus this is an accent?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, percentage, who's you give?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would bet like $20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That they were, were they not Southern, because they don't sound Southern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of my, they, yeah, you have a ton of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She don't have a ton of, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's from California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the fakest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: accent in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope Mistique was like, you know what, she's dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've never met her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to try a little something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bored.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for improv time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just going to do like an accent to fit and but Mistique's not very good at a Southern accent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so yeah, that's my head cannon as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, probably like none of these people know her anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not like they'd be able to be like, that's not what Eve sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, yeah, just bored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're like, okay, if I can't inhabit all these people, I might as well do silly voices.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, well, okay, okay, okay, I'm better at the British accent than I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, but now I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know, I won't go back to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put it away for a rainy day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll practice in the mirror, my Southern accent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I mean, I'm just trying to blame Mystique, more so than the actress, because that was an a trotious Southern accent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really, really bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the episode basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We do have a little bit of feedback to get to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we of course were halfway through the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are going to ring the characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a message from April who says, Hi, I've been listening to you guys since you started Buffie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was 14 when it originally aired and could be described as an Uber fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to go to the chatty rooms, angel reference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the episode's aired and spend hours talking about it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to let, you know, most people didn't remember that episode and didn't know what was happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was airing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember a men's very well and used to get an arguments about this and said chat rooms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ended up being right and I remember it because I really glowed it because no one thought I was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't be embarrassed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep up the good work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to the next couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the only ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We shouldn't be embarrassed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be more forgiving of myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the, some of the things I get most on myself is like my own intelligence because I've been called an uneducated idiot when it comes to the gilded age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes I get that show is fill on actually this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they never get up off the couch because last I heard she was still sitting there to this day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know So almost not to say it's like sometimes I get like I get embarrassed because I don't want anybody to think that I'm stupid Because that's like one of my biggest insecurities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you and I'm really proud of you that when you were 14 you said 14 younger that you

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[SPEAKER_00]: figured it out before all these other people I think that's a awesome and it tastes like a great memory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To do that, I'm impressed by you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, similarly we got an email from Andrew saying that at this point you will probably already know this, but the first appeared in the Christmas episode we back in season three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not surprised you didn't remember him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually expected it since it was so long of you ago for you and neither of you seemed particularly interested in the first time the first time around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no reason if I had to be seen as anything other than a monster of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a wild decision to grab this thing that appeared for a few more seasons ago and make it the final boss, but given that it is canonically the evilest of all evils, it does make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe a flashback or previously on segment jog your memory was warranted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, it's just to eliminate confusion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Misty equals the first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you saw was Misty's true form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not separate entities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first is not a vampire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just think of it as evil incarnate, which we did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up figuring that out along the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But thank you, Andrew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I say I think people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: think the thing is is like the only, like, unless you were as April said in Uber fan, it would be like insane for anyone to remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, especially if it wasn't even a monster that came back multiple times, it was a one-off in a season four season so go, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it has as far as I know, and if anybody knows this to me true, or let me listen, like it wasn't referenced ever again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not to our knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to our squad, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I exact, it feels a little flawed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you would think that it, it's kind of like, maybe it's going by to pretty little liars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the ultimate boss was not the ultimate boss from the beginning of the series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, yes, maybe we like walked into this a little bit because you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hence along the way or

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was our feedback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for sending it in folks who really appreciate it for everybody being very kind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone is so kind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I meant to mention to Mars, as far as was very happy that I seem to enjoy the angel episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to please and also Mars Mars was on my side about the baseball jersey that we discussed at the end of the last podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who wouldn't be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who just be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you get it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did you get it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't arrived yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't arrived yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll have show and tell if you're in the mood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we do have rankings to get to as we are halfway through the final season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the characters, we have a very short list of characters we're ranking now because people keep dying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People have believed in the show and people are dying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fine by me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So less and less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're ranking six characters total.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sarah, do you want to go first?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like me to go first?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can go first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote it down somewhere in my phone, but I don't know where I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do you want me to go first if you want to go first?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in my notes, okay, great, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we go favor to least favorite or at least we do bottom to top, yeah, least favorite to favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think it's like very easy to say that Spike is my least favorite, I mean, not only because of season six has passed, but also because he's just like terrible the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been second the basement half the time he's talking gibberish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what he's saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been like haunted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like barely been a character and then all this time, like we're supposed to magically forget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about the sexual assault from last season or attempted sexual assault from last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, be forced to care about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little rough in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, he has like half a season to not be a crazy delusional dude and like save the day and like everybody have everybody love him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: not necessarily us, but in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's pretty easy to put him at the bottom here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next up, I'm going to put Zander.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not because he did anything wrong just because

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's basically there just to hang out with a hammer and that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Windows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they haven't really given him much substance this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I like the fact that he's always there for Buffy and the Scoobies and he.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, has a generally like a great attitude, and yeah, you know, you can really see, and like I like his jokes, it's not like I dislike him, it's just that like they haven't really given him anything for me to work with truly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, next up I have Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, like, I just, she hasn't really done anything wrong, like, it's, she hasn't been annoying, which is different from most seasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the fact that she is slowly getting back into magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that she's not doing not, not doing any magic, but it hasn't towards it, because she's like, I don't want it to consume me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Willow can get so annoying at times and

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[SPEAKER_00]: the stink of her annoyingness is not wreaking the season thus far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next I have Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like her speeches that she's been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, I don't know, Buffy, Buffy, Buffy, Buffy, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I feel as if she is, I would love to talk about this at the end of the season and if we feel like she has

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[SPEAKER_00]: like how much, I don't know, I think she has like the like grown as a character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like obviously she's like so much more of a leader now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love like that she has like a more like independent thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also like I don't I don't I don't I have to think about like how I feel her as a character as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just have her here next time I have Ania I think that she got her jokes back and I think the jokes have been

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that I, I need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do agree with her, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That her hair is sus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she did call it out herself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it feels fair for us to multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of the time she did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she's onto something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she is less hot because of the hair, not because of anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then my number one favorite character is Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her hair is phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're talking about hair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, she, her and Anna are the only ones half the time that have their heads on street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like they're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the facts like, for example, her Don and Ania were the only ones that are sus of both spike and of Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of Andrew, like they were the ones who were like, let's smack that bitch in the face and wake them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are, and somebody is there on forgiving, it's because they're like, fool me one, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, and I like the fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're like, not those two are not only like strong independent women, but also, um, they're like, why are we trusting people that did us wrong?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And why are we letting these people back in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're right, like Don has like great one liners, her zings are phenomenal, really like her as a character in general, would love for her to be given like to be included in the plans more like be allowed to get the extra sharp weapons like I respect her people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that that's what annoys me most about

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[SPEAKER_00]: that she still is trying to protect Dawn with kid gloves as if she's still the key to the universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, and I guess like her kids sister, but also, but also it's the exact opposite of which she's doing with the other sliders that I think that she's doing so well with of like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: when she told jiles like we have to throw them into the fire like we can't shelter them they have to know everything like I wish that she did that same energy to dawn it makes no sense but aside from fact that's like her own sister and sometimes

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[SPEAKER_00]: when it's your own family or sisters and maybe that you're super like, you care super about, you're like, I will protect you in some bubble wrap and like also be like extra hard on you or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think that's my right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't miss anybody, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed this pre-pod and said, well, leave Jiles off just because he hasn't been around a ton, even though he's been in like the last couple of episodes, suffice it to say we love Jiles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, some, so I, I feel as though like, I don't think that he makes the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that he, it's, he makes me feel safe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think like that's his like whole, his whole point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I really, I do feel his absence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like I noticed him being gone more than like anybody else, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because like he's like good sounding board for Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like his relationship with Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is probably one of my favorite relationships of the entire show because of also how earned and developed it's become throughout seven seasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think that's really fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right, your turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have reached a crazy epic moments in this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you dare for me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You must have the sound turned way up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm very easily spooked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just literally jumped out of my skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why are you playing sound effects with the fuck it's wrong with you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we clapping?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're clapping because our rankings are for the first time and only time ever Absolutely identical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're in total agreement, so I have spike at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're in total agreement.

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[UNKNOWN]: No, we're in total agreement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know it was going to scare you that bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah, so Spike Zander will above be on your dawn in a descending order, ascending or whatever it doesn't matter, from bottom to top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I completely honestly echo your sentiments for the most part on everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm tired of the mumblees that spike has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still haven't forgiven him for some season six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zander really is the only thing he's doing is talking about construction and doing construction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Willow is getting her groove back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like so I am I agree with you that I find her less annoying than I have before, but I also just prefer the willow that's like doing magic all the time to the willow's like a little scaredy about doing magic yeah like one we have willow do magic like when she decorated for the party in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you love to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see her magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite magic is practical magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, always like the margarita scene in practical magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The lime and the coconut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't we just use magic to make margarita is my question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's solid question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in Sabrina the Wet Teenage Witch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't we use magic to find the perfect outfit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is my literal magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Magic is just practical magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I have Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For similar reasons of like, I like Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that I've been enjoying the other characters of smidge bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Onya really does have her groove back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Onya, who is single Onya,

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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to figure out how to be a human, how to be an ex-demon in this world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of her bits and a lot of her moments are of my, you know, my most favorite moments like her trying to like slink through spikes stuff and getting caught that whole scene really cracked me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then dawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I 100% agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think number one, she has the best hair and outfits of anyone on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She often is wise beyond her years and is like calling shit out when other people aren't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just, I love and appreciate Don so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wish she was getting included and more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really does piss me off when they don't give her the credit that I think she has earned and also deserves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, while that we are on the same page and our rankings for the first ever time, at least in my memory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So look at us, go, look at us, who would have thought?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready to hear about what happened on Angel this episode?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Color me curious, because I did watch last week's episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what did you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of a weakening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel as though you did a very good job explaining what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no, yeah, surprises except for I didn't realize how bad Connor's hair was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a under-reported story that you have left out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's very long and like, stringy and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No girl whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That hair has never seen a curl in its life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's insufferable, but we've been new.

01:00:31.688 --> 01:00:39.554
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like everybody in that show is kind of insufferable, but I feel as though now that

01:00:40.475 --> 01:00:48.701
[SPEAKER_00]: Angela's is back like maybe it's becoming fun, which is why I wanted to hop back in.

01:00:48.941 --> 01:00:50.262
[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't have enough time.

01:00:50.282 --> 01:00:52.604
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, it's fine.

01:00:52.664 --> 01:00:56.927
[SPEAKER_01]: I can loop you in because this episode was a lot of Angela's, basically.

01:00:56.987 --> 01:00:57.368
[SPEAKER_01]: He is

01:00:58.088 --> 01:01:13.234
[SPEAKER_01]: he has been awakened and he is here cause mess baby because they basically they have taken the tactic of well we need to a lot Joe and you we need to have a camera on the cage at all times.

01:01:13.814 --> 01:01:21.304
[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever anyone is talking to him, it's being recorded and live streamed to the remainder of the Angel crew.

01:01:21.865 --> 01:01:26.751
[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone's finding out all the dirty secrets.

01:01:27.652 --> 01:01:28.253
[SPEAKER_01]: So fun.

01:01:28.293 --> 01:01:31.116
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, I think Wesley is the one who goes down there first.

01:01:31.757 --> 01:01:47.356
[SPEAKER_01]: And the entire time, Angelus is like, you have a crush on Fred, you have a crush on Fred, nobody else knows it, but you have a crush on Fred the whole time and Wesley's trying to like whatever whatever whatever.

01:01:49.198 --> 01:01:59.840
[SPEAKER_01]: He also spills the beans about Connor and Cordi to everyone, which previously only Angel Nill, like Angel Cordi, Connor and Cordi were the only ones who knew.

01:02:00.300 --> 01:02:09.903
[SPEAKER_01]: And my favorite is when Fred, when they're hearing this for the first time, for it is like, no, because that would be so weird, because like you held him as a baby and like you were like his mom.

01:02:09.923 --> 01:02:11.303
[SPEAKER_01]: She did not say that.

01:02:12.063 --> 01:02:21.949
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me find a what she said because that's the exact thing that you've been saying that I know Well, she held her as the bait that's so specific Jessica.

01:02:21.969 --> 01:02:25.310
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no wish I'm looking I'm looking up because I can find the intro transcript.

01:02:25.330 --> 01:02:26.571
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna look up exactly what she said.

01:02:26.651 --> 01:02:31.014
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very close to that Maybe not verbita if she's a verbatim.

01:02:31.194 --> 01:02:40.339
[SPEAKER_00]: She held him as a baby then I'm I'm it stinks of suspicion and I am sniffing

01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:41.619
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:46.683
[SPEAKER_00]: See, because I don't, okay, maybe like the fact like, oh, you were kind of his mom.

01:02:46.703 --> 01:02:47.864
[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, she was not.

01:02:48.164 --> 01:02:52.227
[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, like I don't know.

01:02:52.567 --> 01:02:58.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't understand the argument of like you held him as the baby, as the most offensive part.

01:02:59.271 --> 01:03:03.274
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the fact is, is that like she is closer to

01:03:09.392 --> 01:03:09.773
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:03:10.313 --> 01:03:13.196
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's kind of creepy, but it's not.

01:03:13.757 --> 01:03:15.038
[SPEAKER_00]: It is really creepy.

01:03:15.699 --> 01:03:17.641
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, hold on.

01:03:17.661 --> 01:03:18.823
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding.

01:03:24.013 --> 01:03:24.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:03:24.493 --> 01:03:24.974
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here we go.

01:03:24.994 --> 01:03:25.354
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.

01:03:25.835 --> 01:03:36.784
[SPEAKER_01]: Fred says, okay, because in Angelus is saying, like, oh, quite the picture, like, oh, well, more of a snapshot, all that bumping and grind in, blah, blah, blah, Fred says, now that's just ridiculous.

01:03:37.244 --> 01:03:38.906
[SPEAKER_01]: Conner's Angel's son.

01:03:39.106 --> 01:03:41.188
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like sleeping with your own.

01:03:41.628 --> 01:03:45.451
[SPEAKER_01]: And she looks at, uh, cordy and then stops him at sentence.

01:03:45.491 --> 01:03:47.113
[SPEAKER_01]: She realizes, like, yeah, it's true.

01:03:47.543 --> 01:03:49.706
[SPEAKER_01]: She's basically like, it'd be like something with your own kid.

01:03:49.726 --> 01:03:53.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but she did not say, but you know, she didn't say you held him as me.

01:03:53.490 --> 01:03:55.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:03:55.072 --> 01:04:06.565
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that has been your argument for six episodes and I swear to God, like I wouldn't know, but that was like the whole, that was the whole thing so that everyone finds out about Connor and Quarty.

01:04:06.925 --> 01:04:08.846
[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody's like disgusted.

01:04:08.886 --> 01:04:09.886
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you are involved.

01:04:09.906 --> 01:04:11.486
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone is like what the hell?

01:04:11.826 --> 01:04:18.148
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like a second later Connor walks in and like everyone's staring at him and he like misunderstands why.

01:04:18.168 --> 01:04:22.930
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, why is everybody looking at me is in my hair?

01:04:23.810 --> 01:04:29.472
[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks it has something to do with like the beast and everything, like he doesn't think it's related to a courty.

01:04:30.633 --> 01:04:45.039
[SPEAKER_01]: So eventually like gone and Fred go downstairs and Fred is getting Angelissa cup of blood and she like they really should have thought about this beforehand, but she like puts it on a table and I guess she like slides it over to him, but he takes

01:04:45.299 --> 01:04:55.663
[SPEAKER_01]: he's able to reach the table through the bars and like shubs it at her causing her to fall forward so he can grab her and he's basically like threatening Fred's life and of course gun starts to lose it.

01:04:56.143 --> 01:05:00.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily Wesley comes down with a drink gun and shoots it in jealous and he

01:05:09.347 --> 01:05:22.747
[SPEAKER_01]: And Wesley and Fred have a moment alone and basically, Fred is like, oh, I want to thank you for saving me blah, blah, blah, and this is something I did.

01:05:26.391 --> 01:05:36.075
[SPEAKER_00]: See during the episode that I watched was like that I don't know if you mentioned of like how much like weirdness slash like Oh, looks there are between.

01:05:36.095 --> 01:05:37.236
[SPEAKER_00]: There's less than freaks.

01:05:37.816 --> 01:05:49.722
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Wesley is in love with Fred and like she heard it and gone and gone like giving eyes Oh, guns pissed off at Wesley in general, but like certainly because like she's like oh, because like in the other episode.

01:05:49.742 --> 01:05:52.043
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh, I need Wesley and guns like

01:05:53.697 --> 01:06:05.422
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, and she's like, in this particular situation because for Ed is trying to be like middle, like she's trying to be Switzerland and it's like not working because Wesley and gun like, hey, each other.

01:06:05.442 --> 01:06:06.002
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:06.223 --> 01:06:09.984
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Fred is basically trying to be like, be like, Wesley, it's okay.

01:06:10.004 --> 01:06:12.245
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know you have feelings for me, but it's not a big deal.

01:06:12.325 --> 01:06:14.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's it's really sweet blah, blah, blah.

01:06:14.686 --> 01:06:15.627
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong with it.

01:06:16.447 --> 01:06:18.389
[SPEAKER_01]: And as she says that, he says, yes, there is.

01:06:19.369 --> 01:06:23.373
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes up and he kisses her.

01:06:23.393 --> 01:06:26.635
[SPEAKER_01]: And she likes his back.

01:06:27.236 --> 01:06:32.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she like has her hand like, she doesn't push him away instantly.

01:06:32.500 --> 01:06:34.141
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it that guilty guilty.

01:06:34.201 --> 01:06:35.883
[SPEAKER_01]: She like, eventually, she does.

01:06:36.063 --> 01:06:36.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Send her away.

01:06:36.804 --> 01:06:37.584
[SPEAKER_01]: She just him away.

01:06:38.085 --> 01:06:40.847
[SPEAKER_01]: Gone walks in and he knows the vibes.

01:06:41.147 --> 01:06:41.427
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:41.447 --> 01:06:43.988
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, what the fuck is going on?

01:06:44.008 --> 01:07:00.772
[SPEAKER_01]: I tell me what I just walked in on and like then gone and and and and Wesley are like fighting and meanwhile, you see Angelus has like a woken from the drink darts and it's just like chuckling because he's loving the like drama.

01:07:00.812 --> 01:07:02.692
[SPEAKER_01]: He's cause this is my loving jealous.

01:07:03.072 --> 01:07:05.213
[SPEAKER_01]: He fucking loves the drama.

01:07:05.253 --> 01:07:06.433
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a bitch for drama.

01:07:06.513 --> 01:07:06.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:07:06.853 --> 01:07:06.913
[SPEAKER_01]: He

01:07:10.654 --> 01:07:12.375
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the drama he starts there.

01:07:13.015 --> 01:07:20.658
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get like Connor going downstairs to talk to Angelus and basically all the daddy issues come out.

01:07:20.778 --> 01:07:31.663
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's really funny because of what Angelus says about like basically he's like, oh, Darla hated you like you were inside her squirming around.

01:07:32.103 --> 01:07:36.085
[SPEAKER_01]: She staked herself just so she didn't have to listen to your first little breath.

01:07:36.685 --> 01:07:39.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's how my body, yeah.

01:07:39.527 --> 01:07:47.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he says, then Angelus says, and now my boys and love, all the hearts and flowers, but doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers?

01:07:47.632 --> 01:07:54.717
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you bone is the closest thing you've ever had to your mother, doing your mom and trying to kill your dad.

01:07:54.917 --> 01:07:56.438
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that should be a play.

01:07:58.079 --> 01:07:58.819
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very edible.

01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:03.662
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so Conner's in the middle of this whole conversation

01:08:04.999 --> 01:08:06.040
[SPEAKER_01]: definitely wants to kill him.

01:08:06.520 --> 01:08:10.282
[SPEAKER_01]: When Cordelia walks in, Cordelia shuts off the cameras.

01:08:10.962 --> 01:08:13.183
[SPEAKER_01]: And Cordelia is like, we're going to make a deal.

01:08:13.483 --> 01:08:23.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, the whole reason they have they brought Angelus out was to find out how to kill this beast, like what he knows about the beast, right?

01:08:23.328 --> 01:08:23.448
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:23.648 --> 01:08:25.329
[SPEAKER_01]: So she says, you tell me,

01:08:25.949 --> 01:08:53.095
[SPEAKER_01]: what I need to know and you'll have something you'll have or we're going to make a deal you'll have I'll give you something in return like he's like what's the better ride than a Mustang and she says me that's so I'm okay she's offering herself up to him if they basically she says like you're going to help me out like you're you're going to tell me about the beast we're going to save the world and then you can have me whatever.

01:08:54.145 --> 01:08:55.450
[SPEAKER_01]: So he does.

01:08:55.610 --> 01:08:57.918
[SPEAKER_01]: He basically says like back when he was in jealous.

01:08:58.867 --> 01:09:04.869
[SPEAKER_01]: The beast approached him because there were these like priestesses that were trying to kill him.

01:09:04.889 --> 01:09:07.469
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm already, I'm you're losing me, okay.

01:09:07.509 --> 01:09:10.990
[SPEAKER_01]: And because it doesn't matter, but basically Angelus says go fuck yourself.

01:09:11.050 --> 01:09:15.251
[SPEAKER_01]: The beast's punch him in the face and so it's basically we need to find these priestesses.

01:09:15.271 --> 01:09:17.752
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're the ones who can help slay the beast.

01:09:18.252 --> 01:09:26.294
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all of the angel crew go to see what's going on with the priestesses and find them and all their family members dead.

01:09:28.618 --> 01:09:29.458
[SPEAKER_01]: which is brutal.

01:09:29.858 --> 01:09:36.000
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Cordelia goes back down and Angelus is like, well, you're turned to pay up.

01:09:36.040 --> 01:09:40.742
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, ah, ah, ah, no, we're not doing that because guess what?

01:09:41.202 --> 01:09:43.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we didn't get to save the world.

01:09:43.643 --> 01:09:44.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the deal.

01:09:44.363 --> 01:09:45.483
[SPEAKER_01]: The deal was you told me about the beast.

01:09:45.503 --> 01:09:46.604
[SPEAKER_01]: I saved the world and then you could have me.

01:09:46.624 --> 01:09:47.424
[SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't get to do that.

01:09:47.864 --> 01:09:49.965
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to have your little soul back in a matter of minutes.

01:09:49.985 --> 01:09:51.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember, it was kept in a little chart.

01:09:51.726 --> 01:09:53.466
[SPEAKER_01]: The little glass jar with angel soul in it.

01:09:53.706 --> 01:09:55.407
[SPEAKER_01]: And they had put it in like this.

01:09:56.585 --> 01:10:01.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Safe it was like one of those like oh you take the painting down and then there's a safe in the wall And then you put it in the safe, you know, uh-huh.

01:10:01.666 --> 01:10:09.408
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and surprise the prize isn't missing But it's missing Stupid the show stupid.

01:10:09.488 --> 01:10:15.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, safe is empty And also I did like a line from Angelus where

01:10:18.990 --> 01:10:21.731
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, like, oh, I think I'll start with the twins.

01:10:21.831 --> 01:10:24.192
[SPEAKER_01]: I love a woman with nice, ripe thighs.

01:10:25.433 --> 01:10:29.454
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, the more you piss me off, the longer I'll keep you alive, something tells me.

01:10:29.514 --> 01:10:31.795
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a screamer, like as she's walking away.

01:10:33.736 --> 01:10:37.117
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Angel Sola's gone, so they can't put it back in his body.

01:10:37.217 --> 01:10:40.178
[SPEAKER_01]: So now, who stole the soul?

01:10:40.198 --> 01:10:42.539
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we have to figure out.

01:10:42.619 --> 01:10:43.279
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think?

01:10:44.921 --> 01:10:48.345
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm trying to remember if Connor was there when they put it in the safe.

01:10:50.022 --> 01:10:50.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:10:50.762 --> 01:10:51.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one suspect.

01:10:52.122 --> 01:10:53.023
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm thinking.

01:10:53.103 --> 01:10:58.104
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, I don't think it's cordy because she was very much like anti, them even doing this in the first place.

01:10:58.204 --> 01:11:03.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, like, what's like, my sleeper pick is like, Fred, but why would Fred?

01:11:04.225 --> 01:11:05.465
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll, they'll let us know.

01:11:05.485 --> 01:11:06.305
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't fucking know.

01:11:06.485 --> 01:11:10.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're telling us, I don't know if that my job to figure it out.

01:11:10.566 --> 01:11:14.507
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's not my, it's fucking the show's job to explain away why the fuck someone would do this.

01:11:14.547 --> 01:11:16.407
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what happened.

01:11:16.747 --> 01:11:19.168
[SPEAKER_01]: Wesley Kissing Fred, I think, was the highlight for me.

01:11:20.188 --> 01:11:38.619
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because like it was like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah

01:11:40.472 --> 01:11:49.620
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people probably really liked the heel turn Wesley made when he became like a bit more of a baddie and ditched the glasses and like started fucking that lawyer lady.

01:11:50.221 --> 01:11:50.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:11:51.281 --> 01:11:51.622
[SPEAKER_01]: But.

01:11:51.702 --> 01:11:52.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Question.

01:11:52.763 --> 01:11:57.087
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if like, you know, a love life has happened in the last few years.

01:11:57.247 --> 01:11:58.087
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

01:11:58.408 --> 01:12:05.694
[SPEAKER_00]: I do this at one point and I forgot, did you know that Alson and again, Willow is married to?

01:12:05.834 --> 01:12:06.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:12:06.935 --> 01:12:07.536
[SPEAKER_00]: We had no idea.

01:12:09.072 --> 01:12:10.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I've, yeah, I've known that.

01:12:10.513 --> 01:12:18.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I say, well, we definitely were told when Wesley first appeared on the show, like on, on Buffy back in the day.

01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:27.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just received this, and that actually got brought up in this episode of Angel, which also had me being like, okay, they're really set in the stage.

01:12:28.187 --> 01:12:30.129
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what happened, I'm sorry.

01:12:30.409 --> 01:12:33.732
[SPEAKER_01]: In the episode of Angel, it got brought up that Wesley

01:12:39.025 --> 01:12:41.206
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they mentioned faith on age.

01:12:41.226 --> 01:12:46.527
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think they said her by name, but they mentioned that like he was a watcher.

01:12:46.547 --> 01:12:49.969
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't remember exactly what they said about it, but I remember it.

01:12:49.989 --> 01:12:51.829
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it.

01:12:51.849 --> 01:13:00.312
[SPEAKER_00]: Who, whoever I did the matchmaking with faith and Wesley did a really poor job, there's totally not compatible at all.

01:13:01.192 --> 01:13:01.552
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:13:02.113 --> 01:13:02.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:13:02.613 --> 01:13:06.636
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so anyway, that was what happened on Angel.

01:13:07.717 --> 01:13:09.418
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so happy, Angelus is back.

01:13:09.458 --> 01:13:12.440
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, ditch Angel every day of the week and just give me Angelus.

01:13:12.500 --> 01:13:14.261
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause like, he loves me.

01:13:14.281 --> 01:13:14.742
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice.

01:13:14.982 --> 01:13:15.722
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's nice.

01:13:15.803 --> 01:13:16.783
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be long.

01:13:16.803 --> 01:13:19.285
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to find the soul and say, come back.

01:13:19.966 --> 01:13:20.506
[SPEAKER_00]: So annoying.

01:13:20.646 --> 01:13:22.447
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fleeting, probably.

01:13:22.527 --> 01:13:23.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Very fleeting.

01:13:23.788 --> 01:13:28.151
[SPEAKER_01]: But next week, we have season seven episode 12 of Buffy called Potential.

01:13:28.992 --> 01:13:31.253
[SPEAKER_01]: which feels like potential slayers, right?

01:13:31.293 --> 01:13:33.634
[SPEAKER_01]: Potential potential potential potential potential.

01:13:33.654 --> 01:13:34.794
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to potential.

01:13:34.874 --> 01:13:38.695
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll probably get introduced to the 30 to four.

01:13:38.715 --> 01:13:41.896
[SPEAKER_00]: We're having a, there's six now.

01:13:42.236 --> 01:13:43.757
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get five.

01:13:43.817 --> 01:13:44.757
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get up to ten.

01:13:44.777 --> 01:13:46.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just double.

01:13:46.798 --> 01:13:47.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, stop.

01:13:47.498 --> 01:13:50.099
[SPEAKER_01]: They get stuck every episode that it was just double.

01:13:50.779 --> 01:13:55.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, um, and then the two many slices.

01:13:56.065 --> 01:13:57.266
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's they're like rabbits.

01:13:57.306 --> 01:13:58.347
[SPEAKER_01]: They just keep breeding.

01:13:58.367 --> 01:13:59.529
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going more and more and more of them.

01:13:59.789 --> 01:13:59.929
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:00.390 --> 01:14:05.976
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, for Angel Season 4 episode 12 cavalry, cavalry have arrived.

01:14:06.096 --> 01:14:06.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Cavalry.

01:14:07.591 --> 01:14:08.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how great.

01:14:08.812 --> 01:14:11.493
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they can go into Canada.

01:14:11.573 --> 01:14:12.634
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to Canada.

01:14:13.094 --> 01:14:13.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:14:14.095 --> 01:14:16.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so that's that's where we're at.

01:14:16.576 --> 01:14:17.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we're getting there.

01:14:17.657 --> 01:14:19.998
[SPEAKER_01]: We're over halfway through the final season now.

01:14:20.378 --> 01:14:20.758
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:14:20.778 --> 01:14:23.480
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at us three years later, who would have thought?

01:14:24.620 --> 01:14:28.042
[SPEAKER_01]: We're almost at three years because we started this in January of 2024.

01:14:29.677 --> 01:14:54.448
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes