Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 6 Episode 18 - Entropy

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before It's just behind never ending windows All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need a partner for the ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word and I'll be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 Isn't me to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's show start me!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shit 90's show start me was not filmed before live studio audience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready to slay another day?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So are we?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need shows taught me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just darling here with my co-hosts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sarah, I'm free.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sarah, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jess, I'm really good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ania is back, the great on Yanko.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, on Yanko.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's made wishes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't wait for yourself, silly Billy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and I don't understand why she couldn't wish for how Frick to do something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is the biggest plow of the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Frick was like, hey, you really need somebody else to wish something for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You really need to find somebody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know that bitch, that must be bitch, would be like, sign me up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the first one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's a, like, you can't do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: ask a fellow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's because she's been the one who's been wronged, and so she can't make wishes for the situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, that doesn't seem right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the good news is, she found the best possible way to hurt Zander, which is to fuck Spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it kind of hurt him in a roundabout way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm surprised that you're all for it because we're very precious about on me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we got annoyed with her, but I feel as though we wouldn't want her to be messing with that toxic toxic man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: see I think the reason I am for it and we'll get into this but the reason I am for it generally speaking is because it gives the vibe of listen we're both in bad situations we're both hurting right now we both hate the same people right now

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just fuck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like both of them had the face and vibes of like this is a one time I need to feel better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's fuck situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't a Ania is getting into this deep emotional relationship with Spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't a Spike is in love with Ania like no it was very it was almost it was almost friends with benefits but like acquaintances with benefits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Yeah, tolerate you with benefits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't honestly, the reason I was all for it is because I was like, fuck Buffy and Zinder in their fucking nonsense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, please go off, have some sex, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get back at these bitches and the thing is, is they weren't even running their faces in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even know they were being filmed, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They probably should have, they probably should have known, there's people watching everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's bigger than everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there wasn't everywhere at this time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, you should assume you're being filmed at all times, back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But a little nest camera, or yes, the people have like the babysitter cameras, where they have like the bet teddy bear or whatever, and there's like a camera in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we're talking about fee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking on season six episode 18 entropy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and overall, I got to say, really enjoyed this episode, really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think part of it was, it felt, it feels like we're revving up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, we're crossing our teas, we're dotting our eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a spike in Buffy out in the open now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a little bit more not closure, but like, onya is back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's fucking shut up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Willow and Tara will talk about them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like we're kind of like, okay, we're revving back up to like the finale, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of felt like it was a filler episode I was I was kind of bored honestly bored you were bored by the drama I just like felt like it was nothing and nothing drama I don't know wow wow

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just so surprised that you came in so hot with like, oh, this is a great episode because I thought that you would come in and be annoyed because I was just like, well, I wanted to see on you like actually get revenge of some sort or she did

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess so look at Zander's fucking face man like he brought an axe to chop off spikes head.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I was thinking more so like a magical draw.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did I want his intestines twisting around?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, of course I did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know like I thought that we were going to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was interesting because like once again like the

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the worst things imaginable are more human than they are mystical and magical so I suppose I should be surprised that the best way to get zander hurting or angry or back is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to have sex with an enemy, but also I don't like how Buffy's called in the crossfire of this all and then she once again not only is she having to be hurt by

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[SPEAKER_03]: by spike, but also by Ania, but then also Sanders matter her, because he loves to make things about her, about himself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like, Buffy got triple screwed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think like if anybody got screwed the most, I mean, Ania got screwed the most, but if anybody got screwed, I feel as though

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I was like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't love the this hookup and I'm surprised you're so into it and maybe it's once again like I'm kind of like, I don't know, I'm like protective of her on you, but then I'm like protective of her like sometimes spike as well, but then it's just like I'm just like stay away from her, but then I'm like he's such a precious little soul and like also he's kind of like he's such a jackass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm fatigued.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'm just fatigued.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's let's talk it through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I can get you on my side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll try to pitch you on why I think this this works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I want to kind of talk through my least favorite part of the episode first so he can get out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that of course is the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and what we see of them is they're like riding a TVs to take down vampires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They obviously very much suck at it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and the only reason they're able to get this sort of disk thing is because Buffy ends up fighting the vampires that get away from them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and they're able to grab the disk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan is kind of over the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of doesn't want to be involved with them at this point, but he's doing his work, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is like the hacker of the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He like, you know, Willow is the hacker of the Scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan is the hacker of the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we do get like a little side combo between

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[SPEAKER_02]: Warren and blonde guy whose name I will literally never remember Andrew and Drew and they're like, hmm, Ken Jonathan be trusted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've seen this building where Jonathan has been like the lead the one who doesn't really want to be involved anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the weakest link.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, the, okay, so Jonathan has some sort of like secret, secret, special project.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Andrew and Warren are like, hey, we only need him for a few more weeks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Something along those lines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a map or like, it tells them where to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the end goal is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we are supposed to know what the

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, we're we're out of the loop which is fine because I don't want to be in their inner circle So I don't really care no thank you, but yeah, it seems as though not only is Jonathan starting to turn against them But it sounds like Warren and Andrew are starting to turn against Jonathan This is the thing you can't have a three-some of friends

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[SPEAKER_02]: It never really were all interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, right, because there's always going to be two that are closer to each other than the other one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or there's like a random hookup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's look at how Zander plus willow that made it really awkward for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Sean and Cory to Pegasus is going to be number one in their eyes and Sean.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Willow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where I said Willow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Pacy Dawson Joey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's awkward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Trios don't work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We repeatedly see it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Felicity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: only hung out with those boys and was hard on every single girl that she was friends with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we were immediately, uh, see, where is there?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember no one in Ben.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do know that we have a lot of time with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I should I should know better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Triads don't work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, we should stop trios.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, have you ever been in a friendship group of a trio?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not good situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you agree with me?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are two of them closer than, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I think I do agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if there's a dynamic of three people, there's always going to be someone who feels left out and that can shift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's always permanent, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there you can go through waves of like these two are closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now these two are closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just think there's always going to be one person who feels left out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the magic number is closer to like a four because then

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not as intensely like dependent upon just the two of you, you can kind of shift, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, oh, I go to friend, I'm friend A and I go to friend B when I want support.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go to friend C when I want tough love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think, I think four is the perfect number for a group of friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think three is tricky.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is why Jonathan's gang kicked out basically, but it seems like I don't even know kicked out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's one of those like mafia type things, but like you scope with the fishes, like I don't think you're allowed to just leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yes, of course, because he knows too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So who knows what the disc is for, but they're working on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, Jonathan has a blankie, who's surprised literally no one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never had like a

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I mean, like I had like a stuffed animal, but it's not like I haven't any more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely had one, but I didn't, I didn't have it like into my teen years, like I don't know what ever happened to it, you know, plenty of people that still have their like little autumn.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, whatever, stuck on the corner, like a little freak.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's talk through Willow and Tara next because I feel like we can kind of talk through that fairly quickly where like basically they're very awkward around each other and I kind of just have no time for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like this, I kind of don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because I, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see where this was going, where it was like they're obviously going to get back together because Tara can't be mad at Willow for very long, even though I don't think she should ever trust that bitch again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't have a spine, but that's fine because neither do I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so they agreed to go on like this whole coffee date.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's very, very awkward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then at the very, very end of the episode, Tara goes into Willow's room and she says, like, oh, there's so much to work through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their trust has to be built on both sides,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to learn it for the same people we were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you can fit into each other's lives, it's a long important process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just skip it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you just be kissing me now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to say if it's just how we solve these problems, but that is how we solve problems when we're 22.

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[SPEAKER_03]: so yeah these are fair things let you know those problems we have that are right here let's just top some of the sides make a very pivotal or like my pivotal but like if thing that I had said very frequently in my early 20s is that is future Sarah's problem brush it under that rug baby got which is not good because guess what it comes up years later and it really is

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[SPEAKER_03]: your future problems.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Next fight they get into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be like, oh, are you lying to me again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you manipulating me again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like last time?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to fix this shit early or else it's never going to work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the other thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they get back together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, those whole thing is she doesn't have any magic things in the house, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she's an addict and you can't keep on, well, about Tara and her witchy magic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a druid, so her whichy stuff is like a leaf, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she can't keep her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There leaves everywhere, so you can't keep her away from all the leaves in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is so, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, it's different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very, very different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we can't get that wench back, rat Amy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rat Amy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She has like the really bad, whichy stuff, like the postcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The postcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Keep that going away from a beaker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Willow can't go to school because she can't take her science class because no one's class allowed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very dangerous for her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we'll see what ends up happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it seems like they're back together kind of whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get like I said, I'm very whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're in Pride Month now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, happy to see two women kissing on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, very happy about that because it felt like it was such a sticking point when they first got together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we can't show them kissing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm also not pro like, let's just ignore all of the problems our relationship had in favor of just making out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, plus Tara does ours better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not over what Willow did and I don't think there should be, I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She shouldn't, but once again, this is very early 20s.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's get back with our ex over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's make me mistake over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like very of the age and I think that Willow,

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[SPEAKER_03]: either intentionally or not intentionally has an ability to manipulate the situation and manipulate Tara into coming back to her and it's it's some it's kind of sad when people that are not as like strong willed as Willow get into that manipulated situation because she will go back over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Curious to know if at the time when people were watching this, if they were like cheering, when Tara and Willow got back together, or if they were like, again, if they were like in their early 20s or in their teens, they probably were cheering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, these are the people that are obsessed with spuffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are like, this I mean, I disagree with that, but because I think spuffy's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the reason they don't work is different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You think that Spuffy is great?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, my version of Spuffy is great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The version that you make up in your head of Spuffy is great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not the one that we've been watching for the past five months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, well, that's besides the point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's, let's also break down Buffy and Dawn, because then we could kind of get to the actual meat and potatoes at the episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dawn can't shop anywhere because she stole from like literally every shop in town, including a toothbrush, she cares about dental hygiene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We love that for her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said it had like a really pretty handle, which seems interesting and exciting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As someone who uses an electric toothbrush, don't particularly care about the look of my toothbrush, besides the fact that I like it to look different than my husbands, so that I know which one is mine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If it's an open handle, though, or mother pearl, something like, I'm very interested in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then very attached to my electric toothbrush.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sonic hair or or B.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's I think my name is sonic hair and it's a as a pink candle and there's the preferred brand of a lot of dentists.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does the 30 second like quadrants, you know, love that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they should they can't shop anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm where I stole a tomato from the style of bar my dad like made me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I'll imagine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think a tomato should be worthy of telling a manager.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a, I tell you, if Ash steal, this is what started year to made a website.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, well, I think you're trying to, I was already in the thick of it, because who steals a tomato.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that if Ash stole anything from the salad bar, I would say, good for you, Ash.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good job you got in the way with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get your bag.

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[SPEAKER_02]: let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where does Adam fall in these lines?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm curious, but he love what he do, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Adam is very pro-stiglias.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I stopped.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you, I don't even is Adam like, if I can get away with it, then who cares?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't say this on a podcast, but yeah, yes, I would say I don't even put in the wrong apple type anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's one of those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I'm not saying that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, I'm like, this isn't a honey crisp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is definitely a red delicious, which might have won one, so they're probably really cheap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's not getting apples anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that I'm reformed because I can't be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: can't be doing this with the baby, you know, but yeah, I can't, but he does on his own, then snaps for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you want to steal your Opal toothbrush, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Buffy feels very guilty about the whole basement situation, about locking all of her friends and sister into the basement, and she goes crazy with breakfast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She has like four different types of maple syrup, which is kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, yeah, I hop, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whenever you want to, I hop, there's always like four different types of syrup from my regular- Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's strawberry, there was maple, there was like boys and bary or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, I was very excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like I help was always sticky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A whole place.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a sticky sticky.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very sticky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know me, I can't with a stickyness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like if something is sticky, I can't think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, things get sticky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Buffy is like trying to make it up to dawn, dawn was what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Buffy is like, let's hang out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to hang out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she realizes she's being that embarrassing mom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's like trying way too hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but the one and only one thing Don wants in this entire world is to go patrolling with the fee and Buffy is like, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Don has points because her argument is, listen, you protect the world from dangerous things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things seem to try to find me and kill me constantly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think it will be better?

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least teach the girly self-defense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying take her on every patrol.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like take her on a light patrol.

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[SPEAKER_02]: An hour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like do some self-defense courses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give her some tools to equip herself so that she doesn't have to rely on you constantly to save her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish that she would just let Dawn join her on the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that this the sister dodo would be really fun to walk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like back to back then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of like my hope for next season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that maybe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If Dawn is getting close to 18, sometime the century, that maybe they can do this together, that because like what else are we going to use Dawn for?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like let's like incorporate her more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we already did the steelies story, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I hope that that's my wish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I really do hope that she let's Dawn in and I get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't have the super strength that Buffy has and doesn't have

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[SPEAKER_03]: the Spidey sense that she had in the first episode and we haven't seen since, you know, but she does have like intuition and smarts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think she is aware of things that are going on around her and she's kind of had to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think that could be handy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think you can kind of use that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: training like similar to like a Cordelia almost were like Cordelia had an innate ability with people and like knowing how society works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think there is something with Don where she has like this ability to intuit things this perceptive nature that also could be trained and utilized in a way they're not doing currently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we're underutilizing Don both be the person, but be the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want her to get more involved.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping that maybe that's like a next season thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that could be really fun to see them fight together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And also it's just like, you know, sub-treating her like such a kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's 16 now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, age Buffy wasn't Buffy started slang now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a great point that Don made.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let her, let her do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let her point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let her dress in the leather and the slutty outfits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And let's go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we'll talk later about the spuffy of it all with Don.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about Zander and Onya and kind of where we are with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Zander's all depressive and he's drinking his apartment alone, like a sad guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And later on he finds Onya in the apartment and they finally have it out about him leaving her at the altar and he's like been practicing what he wants to say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When he's apologizing, he's not apologizing for like not going through with the wedding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's apologizing that he didn't tell her sooner that he didn't want to get married right this moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for me, it seems like Ania is more on the side of it's either you want to get married or we're over and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think Zander was necessarily ready for that to be on his response, which also is like, I don't know why he wasn't prepared for that to be her response.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a really hard position to be in because I think that both people have a good point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Zander kind of just wants to get back into the relationship as it was before he proposed when they were really happy and they were young and he just wants to date her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But on your has a good point of like, well, we can't really just like go back to that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't like magically just like evaporate all this, the stuff that happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I even known one couple that was engaged, and then broke up and then got back together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it wasn't like they were automatically still engaged.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I think that I, well, I know the girl made him propose again, but also with the dinner ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, that's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened to the first ring?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She, oh my god, it was really exciting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She saw it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me, she saw it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She wore them both.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was really weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's hilarious though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, she like wore them both on both hands.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like kind of creepy, but whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This feels like a toxic, um, it was a very toxic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the thing is is,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The biggest problem I have is that like this was Zander's entire fucking doing right like Ania wasn't getting on his case to propose he did this of his own volition and he had so many opportunities to back out or say I'm not ready and he didn't until they were at the altar and so him having any expectation that Ania will forgive him and now want to date him

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[SPEAKER_02]: is like, bro, get a fucking grip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you not only broke this girl's heart, but publicly did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, you can't just put that toothpaste back in the tube.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not how it works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't really matter what he says in my opinion, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he could tell her he loves her a million times and say, oh, I'm just trying to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would be onya saying, oh, honesty now, congrats on being honest now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what the metal will say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I loved onya this episode specifically because I love she didn't pull any punches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like she was saying everything that she had been thinking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a really difficult position for someone to be in for like the person you love because she loves Zander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is no denying that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She loves him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The person you love is apologizing for something and they love you and they want to be with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it can be kind of difficult if you are on yet in this situation to maintain that anger, to maintain that like steadfast resolve of this is how I've been feeling the past, however long that I've been gone, and like fully give it to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think like other people might either like, I mean more like a terror, like roll over and just kind of let them get away with it and I appreciate that she doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she fell on is like, fuck you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're ridiculous right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: look at you, is there anything that Zander could do to get what he ultimately wants?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's to be with Anya.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, is there anything that he could have done or said, is it a long game at this point of like, I understand that we can't be the way we were right now, but like, I'm going to,

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[SPEAKER_03]: like work every day to try to prove to you that I want to be with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what does the ender have to do?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or is the truth?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that it's lost forever?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's just kind of like, well, what can you do?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if this was if this was

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[SPEAKER_03]: your brother that you actually liked like what would you be what can you do to tell them like try because I don't I don't know like I yeah it's good because if it was my friend or sister or me I would tell them like found a fuck off but like he

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and but the biggest problem is that he wants to be with her but he doesn't want to get married.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that's the inherent issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you do, I think she, in her mind, right, she's like, you want to get married to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't go back to just the place of being dating because when will we then get married?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think it's like a shatter get off the pot sort of a situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he can either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he either has to be like, sorry, like I can't get married and I don't think I guess the thing he could do is be like, I'm going to treat you well, like I'm going to still be around you, I'm going to try my hardest, but I think if his goal is to now date you, that's not what on your wants and I just think they're at an impasse here, like I just don't think they're

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want to get married and she seemingly does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she doesn't want to go back to just dating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't think they can find the common ground there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know that there's necessarily anything he could do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if he's just hanging around her, treating her well, okay, that's not going to change if he doesn't want to get married.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and even if he kind of gives him and is like, okay, then like we can get married then just like well you know that's not really what he wants exactly he's I mean it's it's the situation is fought like and the trauma she has from the first go around like oh are you going to leave me again like I'm not doing this all again like I look like an idiot like it's just not a good situation it feels like on your came back

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[SPEAKER_02]: to hears and around like your why he did this and then no like no I'm saying she she wants to hear why he did it yeah but then based on the answer he gives I think she was like okay great I already had this plan locked up of I'm going to now do all these wishes you know

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which I feel as though, like maybe is because she is a little bit out of practice, like she spent a couple of years not being a vengeance demon, but I feel as though, since she was doing this for a thousand years, she would know her playbook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, she should know that she can't use her powers on herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what she said to Halford was like, and it'd been a thousand years since she had been wrong or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but still.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel, but so it's convenient.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so she does like this like why wish that you never were born.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish that you had like intestines like growing up your eyeballs or whatever she said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wish you felt the pain of a thousand searing poker's boiling and your heart boiling your heart in its own juices.

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[SPEAKER_02]: iconic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a poet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Great with words.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Great with words.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So and it doesn't work and she's like a increasingly frustrated and she you know like he's like yes like I deserve everything that you're saying and she's like no but like metaphorically I don't want it to be like a metaphorically and I want you to actually be feeling pain.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So she goes and has like a little lunch

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[SPEAKER_03]: and how Frick kind of is like, hey, dummy, you stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't give yourself the way you have to get somebody else to make the way she does.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So then she goes to all for friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she goes to like, Willow and Tara and it's like, hey, you hate men because you guys like women.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How about you help me out?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she goes to Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, hey, this is your best friend, but can you still screw him over?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she goes to Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, Dawn's like, I will not even say WISH.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I won't even mirror it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am reformed, I'm a good girl now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So,

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[SPEAKER_03]: wasn't a good, once again, a good plan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel as though, like you don't go to people that love him to get revenge on him, but as she said her social circle is really small.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think she was counting on the, like, women having her back sort of a thing of, like, he wronged me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know he wronged me, like, don't you want bad things to happen to him?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I, I, I, I, I

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[SPEAKER_02]: yeah she both has a small social circle and I think she was like my best shot is the women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she definitely it was an oversight on her part to not think of spike immediately because of the fact that spike hate sander and has hated sander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've never gotten along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just you know by happens density kind of falls into her lap of both physically and metaphorically later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I still really enjoyed these like scenes, like cutting to all the different people and her trying to get them, like, tricking them into saying the word wish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I thought this was very fun and just some silly bits that was enjoyable to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, all of the different creative ways that Onya could think of to torture Zander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really enjoyed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I also, I, I liked the scenes with Howfric, um, you know, as well because we kind of get a little bit more information.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on his choice that she only gets, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: revenge on men, it's, it's, it's her own restrictions that she puts on herself and have, how, for kids, like, it's really cute that you have all this, like, pro women stuff, but, like, have you ever thought of, you know, men need revenge, uh, and vengeance as well, and that

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[SPEAKER_03]: and she gives him and this is kind of where these two find like a common ground, but spike is not very open about who he's talking about of like which like who fucked him over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like kind of talking in circles, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, I think like if they listen to each other, they could like figure it out, but but they're both wrapped up in their own romantic woes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I really liked this because it did feel like this is how I felt about like Don and Tara having scenes of their kind of the outsiders of the cities, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing goes for Ania and Spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're a bit on the outs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I loved them kind of connecting over their shared frustration with a member of the Scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And neither one of them is really listening to the other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think Ania specifically has no real clue what's going on with Spike and Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I really enjoy that Spike says, oh, you're the only one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't bite if I had the chance because you're the one who, like, you're the only one who says what's actually on your mind, like, you're fourth right, Drew Silva was also fourth right, I, I love that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also love him saying didn't have a single buggering clue about what was going on in front of her, but she was straight about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I just, I really think they connect on a lot of levels and I really enjoyed them like getting drunk together and just like having a bitch session.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this was so fun that they could vent to each other and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they can connect on a lot of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, let's also face it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Buffet and Willow were not very kind to Ania at the start, either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Never forgotten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They came around eventually, but like, they've never been the most welcoming to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think she certainly feels that when Zander approaches, when she's talking to Buffet and she's like, are you happy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They all love you when they're taking your side, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: she feels like no one has her back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I love the whole conversation with spike and getting the camaraderie between them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And because the spike doesn't have anyone on either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he can't talk to anyone about Buffy, as much as he threatens and he eventually comes through on that promise to tell them, tell everyone about Spuffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want to risk that like missing the opportunity to be with Buffy because he tells them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he, I feel like in a way, they really only have each other to talk about all of this with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I really, really loved the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think again, yeah, it's fun that they fuck and like it's fun that they get caught.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all that is like fun drama nonsense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think giving these characters the ability to vent to each other is so valuable because they simply how many times have we seen on you have a real deal conversation with anyone other than zander you know what I mean like it's so rare same thing goes with spike and like it's so rare it's anyone other than buffy so I really enjoyed that even if they're not

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[SPEAKER_02]: putting everything out in plain terms, specifically spike, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It still feels like they're able to venting it at off their chest, and then they look, and it's just so fun!

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess I, I maybe would have preferred it if spike confided in on you and let it hold her about Buffy specifically.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then like maybe out of like frustration that Buffy's not like the girls girl that she would want her to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, is like, yeah, like Buffy does fucking suck and she was kind of rude to me and they're rude to

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but also I also kind of feel like on your felt bad when she found out that they I don't think she fuck spike and she was that exactly that's what I'm I'm thinking but Because I think that she felt like a little bit of like remorse because Ania seems to be a girl's cry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she is because she's been an vengeance demon for the women Like a thousand and she's like the ultimate girls girl

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it worked completely for me, but I think that once again, because I think that Spike just has more knowledge than Anya, and he kind of is taking advantage of the situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that he's more in the know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has a clearer picture.

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[SPEAKER_03]: of everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Anna, I feel is more vulnerable in the situation because she's, I mean, he's hurt, but not in the way that like Anna's hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you that

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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows more because he is not told on you about Buffy, but I think given that this episode, Spike says to Buffy, like, I tried to make it clear to you, you won't see it something happen in either way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel about you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Buffy says, I understand it is for you, but it's not for me and you have to move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, honestly, kind of killed him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes,

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[SPEAKER_02]: really made it clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I told you 10 times already, but like I do not feel the same way about you that you do about me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it honestly did put him not at the same level of being left at the altar now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was supposed to be like, do genuinely feel as though the her is on the same level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we don't compare our own challenges.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what's the matter with you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like do you think they're both really hurting?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think while I agree, Spike knows

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[SPEAKER_02]: more because he hasn't told her about the buffy thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also think it wouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If she's listening to what he's saying, I also think there's like a way you can kind of figure something out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think in my opinion it was so consensual that I didn't really see that there was any issue with it because it was very much like they were both leaning in to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why I, it just, and again, I also liked the way that we, after they have sex, right, they kind of like look both look not like shamed, but like sad, like, yeah, you know, and they both give each other that nod.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It neither, it didn't feel like, oh, it's a mistake, because it's you and I hate you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was more of like, we did that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't fix how we feel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we did that, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like if they didn't,

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[SPEAKER_03]: get caught.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, then I don't know if they would have as much shame surrounding it because they didn't think wrong they're both single.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, they're both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: single.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So both of age, but by many thousands of billions of years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's another thing that they have as far as being an outsider, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like neither one of them are like purely human.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we saw on as, uh, on as, on his, on face, yeah, vengeance, she and face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I wasn't obsessed with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe because I have no soul and nothing is moving me and not I don't know like maybe I'm getting that like season six fatigue that we've been talking about for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because like we said, so Willow is back to her hacker life and they see the big brother camera, the of them together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I'm wondering now, like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because there was a camera in the gnome outside of Buffy's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That zander kicked in frustration, which like, don't kick gnome's bro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a camera at the magic box in that school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a camera, I think at the college, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I thought they should be in the college.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember how many they said they're were, but yeah, apparently the loser trio really has surveillance up on scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: just so stupid by the way when Buffy finds the camera and their her first thought is not that it's the loser trio it's like that but of course it's them like why would you think it was like hanging outside smoking cigarettes like he doesn't use cameras he just goes places

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[SPEAKER_03]: He does and like spike spike his like your grandpa that still doesn't know how to order door dash Does the crypt even have Wi-Fi like what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like hey, like can you get me on that web again?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how do I go to the YouTube's?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly like he's never yeah, no, I didn't use the computer

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's uh, it's so stupid, but of course it's because zanders is the new says it's like you spike so she like goes and confronts him and he's like, I don't even know when a camera is please stop and so then of course like you said the the big brother camera catches

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spania, which is their name, Spania, you hate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Lasagna's over, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spania is the new, even though it's not gonna be a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Either way, also the loser trio is watching it too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they've never watched porn, although I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess porn ads have been on the internet now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They've won, I mean, I think the first use of the internet was literally porn, I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they're like, oh, what's happening?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, well, I think they weren't expecting it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, oh, like, we got our wires crossed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then ultimately, like, it's like, they are, they are more on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it just me or is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I always have felt this way, too, like, with American pie and like, other things, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so weird to have a group of people watching porn together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like that just feels like a not a grew-backed activity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what do we do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's different if you know the people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was this like Pirates of the Caribbean porn uh that was it was like a spoof on like oh okay so it's a parody of yeah pirates but it's like a question called Pirates and ultimately like they're it

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[SPEAKER_03]: it became like a thing amongst our friends because I'd watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we did watch it together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that's a little a little different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I feel like it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's different to sit down and make fun of it versus be like, this is hot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like let's watch this together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Brenna, if you ever listen to this, you have my priorities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: DVD, no, she taught it in the black bench.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I hope it's labeled as like Pirates of the Caribbean and they like accidentally one day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just called Pirates.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pirates perfect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Jeremy, my like, not Jeremy, her brother.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's her brother's name?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jingleheimer Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know whatever her brother might like it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so, yes, so Willow tries to warn Zanders and her sees it, he immediately takes a fucking axe and leaves, meanwhile, Buffy's reaction makes, again, Dawn, because previously I talked about last episode, Buffy slipped up and said like, she dated two vampires or whatever,

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[SPEAKER_02]: with Spike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where you're protecting me from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is very supportive of Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, of course.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when she had a crush on Spike, she gets it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She knows, and she doesn't spend all, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's just like, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And getting, she wants this to be treated like an adult human.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no one treats her that way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're a human adult.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Zander, as Spike is leaving the magic box, Zander tries to chop his head off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Ania and Buffy stop him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ania's like very confused, like how the hell did you even know about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She said it was just a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was just there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She also doesn't understand the web.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, certainly not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, she only, she's been online doing like stocks and bonds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This month.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she's like, she didn't even tap into the... She doesn't know can't do camera, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, he was just there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where I get upset.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get ragey because after Agnes says it was just a thing like, I felt bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Buffy says too spike didn't take long, did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: bitch, you said you're done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You said you don't feel anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spike can buy his dick wherever he damn pleases with consent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are you you don't get to say anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get say anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was annoyed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what should be annoyed if like somebody is trying to get with you and then like five hours later is having sex with somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if they're making such an effort to be with me and saying they love me and then fuck someone else, sure, of course, but I don't think she has any right to say to him didn't take long, did it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You said no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's allowed to do whatever he wants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then we have Zander saying, oh, you had to do it because he was there, like Mount Everest, like I used to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ania, rightfully fucking so, says, and then you weren't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You left me at the altar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't owe you anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was clapping, standing up, screaming, crying, vomiting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Zander says, so you go out and bang the first body, you can find debtor alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Queen Agna.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you get off judging me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boom!

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was very for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When this is your solution to our problems, I hurt you and you hit me back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very mature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, is the onion's responsibility to solve your problem?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sir, you left her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She owes you nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, really unfair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In my opinion, to call her immature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's talk about this way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Zander, the character of Zander is calling another person immature.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pop meets cuddle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is rich.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Angus says, the mature solution is for you to spend your whole life telling stupid, pointless jokes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So no, no one will notice you are a scared, insecure, little boy boomerosted.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that maybe I needed Angus to deliver the lines of which the same level that you are delivering the lines.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it, like, hit as well as, like, how you are relaying it back to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why, but if you're, I mean, I think I'm spicier, but she's yelling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's yelling, is there anger in her eyes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sadness, there's sadness in her eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need anger in the eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Zander says, I'm not joking now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You let that evil, soulless thing touch you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted me to feel something, congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It worked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I look at you and I feel sick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so fucking lootly not my guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you, that is so fucked to be like you fucked him so you're a nasty skank.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, not okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm trying to think of who Zanders had sex with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had sex with Faith, Cordelia.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably that plain romantic teacher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was literally thinking that, but I didn't, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But seriously, those end are like, it is still one fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, you were about to marry a vengeance demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, X, X, X. X vengeance demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you had a lot to say about how for space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's considered a pretty one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is pretty one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've really hated the line I look at you and I feel sick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would punch this bitch in the face.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Buffy's there, and she also is projecting onto herself all these words.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it becomes very obvious to Zander that Buffy has also been with Spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, Kiss Spike says, it's good enough for Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Zaynor says shut up and leave her out of it, but when he looks at Buffy, she got guilty face guilty fifth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And finally, he into it something because I feel like he's never done so before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he's like, you both discussed me and he like throws us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I want to know this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what I know, any of these.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was immature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, Buffy is your friend, stopping a nasty fuck who's obsessed with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he really projects this like Virgin Mary bullshit onto Buffy constantly, and he holds her on such a high pedestal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is so fucked, and it is like, he judges her and is so...

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[SPEAKER_02]: for frustrating and he like immediately is such a big fucking baby about the whole thing and he stomps off and Buffy is like pissed off at spike because she he said something when he's been fucking warning or he was going to say something and she was like hmm go ahead my friends love me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's like you know

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[SPEAKER_03]: trying to take away like a bone from a dog and they like keep snarling at you and then you keep trying to do it and then finally they like get you and you're like why are you being so mean, you know, some of the time you just teach resource guarding is not good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, I have terrible news, terrible news.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this with a season and a few episodes left with both Buffy and Zander single?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a girl in my God?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are walking into this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely not know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am a little Hannah, this is your season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is your favorite season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it might be next season, but I'm just saying like if this is, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And rage, that will spill out of my face.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And once again, if Josh Weedon is like, hey, Zander is me, what's I want to fuck Buffy, what what I want, and that is to get the girl, is this is this the road workout we've down.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hate this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just asking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that you put this into the universe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like if he's so disgusted with onya for sleeping with spike, Buffy's love was like multiple times and you loved it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They broke up building together with their sex powers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they had dumpster sex.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, uh, no, I hate that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then when, so then of course, Buffy follows Zander and I love like being like, you know, I wish and not because like, don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I did like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was sweet because like, you know, he she her him already.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's like no don't like it wasn't like don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like it was a side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't so it was like she's still protecting him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is sad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I wish I was for it was there was it was more sadness and less anger from the onya.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think I wanted a little bit more anger and a little less sadness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it when Anya is angry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I do think that that's my expected.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I expected like her to come in like guns blazing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I was expecting a little bit more, but it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, that's basically our episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, again, I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked that I got to be mad at Zander for being a self-righteous asshole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Buffy pissed me off too, don't get me wrong, but Zander was way worse about the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the one who gets my wrath.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's our that's our Buffy episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did think that we were like we're ramping up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've like now it's out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now everybody knows about spuffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if but if will it doesn't already know Xander is not going to be quiet about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, she's about to know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's talk ancient courties corner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I told you you don't have to watch this episode.

56:58.392 --> 56:59.092
[SPEAKER_02]: I took the bully.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched the episode really kind of a who cares.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the the here's like, I'll give you the plot and then I'll give you the thing that is actually the most important part of this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The plot is basically we're like gun focused.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We get a flashback of gun selling his soul to some demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we don't this will like seven years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know who the her is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These demons are now come to collect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on gun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gun is like, I don't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And basically, if he doesn't give himself up, they'll come after Fred.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he takes Fred out on like a day of fun and tries to cram in like all this fun stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the day of fun include?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They go to Dodger Stadium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of food.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of food based fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He woke her up with breakfast and bed that he got from a diner that

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[SPEAKER_02]: They went to Dodger Stadium, then they went out to like lunch and she was like literally I'm so full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot eat anything else and he got like her like a milkshake Then they break up because basically Gone doesn't want her to get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he basically is like screams at her breaks up with her makes her think there's someone else She is like there's no way this is real like he's he broke up with me to protect me like there's no way He would actually just hurt queen

58:20.353 --> 58:41.561
[SPEAKER_02]: So she goes to Cordelia and Angel Angel is we be sad on the whole episode because of baby Connor still he just in stairs at the the burnt crib you told me how dare you be upset about your what he does all day every day is he stairs at the baby crib okay So Cordelia's back from vacation Cordelia has come back from vacation with Progu

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was the presence a plenty see we didn't even get to see any presence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She announces like, oh, I'm back and I have gifts But like we don't get to see anything Dammit So They anyway, so they all get involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They go help gun basically.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's like this demon guy who runs like I don't even know underground poker or something They end up saving gun And it turns out So fretting on makeup after all this

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Fred asks, who did gun trade his soul for and gun says it was for my truck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not kidding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And his argument was that his truck helped him survive and save lives.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the truck that had like all the things on the front of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do remember.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still so dumb.

59:37.068 --> 59:50.691
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, other side notes, Cordelia is very much trying to help angel process his grief and all his emotions and yada yada, grogu is still so stupid and doesn't know what the hell is going on in this entire world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He still has ginormous pupils which are so distracting.

59:55.032 --> 01:00:00.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Fred visits Wesley in the hospital, brings him his stuff and is like, hey,

01:00:01.173 --> 01:00:08.177
[SPEAKER_02]: I know why you did what you did, like I got it, but also how fucking dare you, not talk to all of us.

01:00:08.237 --> 01:00:09.979
[SPEAKER_02]: The prophecy wasn't even real.

01:00:10.019 --> 01:00:11.239
[SPEAKER_02]: The prophecy was false.

01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:15.782
[SPEAKER_02]: You can never ever, ever come back to the hotel, ever, ever, ever again.

01:00:15.802 --> 01:00:15.862
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

01:00:16.803 --> 01:00:18.204
[SPEAKER_02]: And she, yeah, she was real rough.

01:00:18.224 --> 01:00:20.465
[SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, fuck you, fuck you, bye.

01:00:21.285 --> 01:00:22.266
[SPEAKER_02]: She leaves Wesley ends up.

01:00:22.286 --> 01:00:27.009
[SPEAKER_02]: We see Wesley at the end of the episode get discharged from the hospital and basically just go to his apartment and be sad.

01:00:27.449 --> 01:00:27.729
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:00:28.170 --> 01:00:29.711
[SPEAKER_03]: I was looking at you so that he pulled his own

01:00:31.583 --> 01:00:32.284
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's fine.

01:00:33.145 --> 01:00:33.586
[SPEAKER_02]: He's okay.

01:00:33.806 --> 01:00:34.286
[SPEAKER_02]: He's made it.

01:00:34.387 --> 01:00:34.867
[SPEAKER_02]: He's whatever.

01:00:37.170 --> 01:00:42.797
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's kind of like the storyline at highlights of the end of the episode.

01:00:43.217 --> 01:00:46.642
[SPEAKER_02]: Angel starts taking down baby corners, crib.

01:00:48.704 --> 01:01:01.265
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's all burnt, anyway, but honestly, the biggest note where the piece of this entire episode has nothing to do with literally anything I've just said, it is the tragedy of Cordelia's hair this

01:01:03.152 --> 01:01:10.237
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to hold a funeral like this is terrible um it is like I don't even really know how to describe it It is short.

01:01:10.738 --> 01:01:11.638
[SPEAKER_02]: It is straight.

01:01:12.139 --> 01:01:13.620
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah is blonde.

01:01:13.780 --> 01:01:13.940
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:18.083
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just like the John Kate plus a air But no porcupine in the back.

01:01:18.403 --> 01:01:19.484
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's terrible.

01:01:19.544 --> 01:01:20.504
[SPEAKER_03]: It's revolting.

01:01:20.524 --> 01:01:27.529
[SPEAKER_03]: I I I can't I don't understand what they're doing who allowed this

01:01:28.736 --> 01:01:30.658
[SPEAKER_03]: She's supposed to be like 22 years old.

01:01:30.698 --> 01:01:31.839
[SPEAKER_03]: She looks 47.

01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.320
[SPEAKER_03]: She looks like she's trying to be a cop.

01:01:34.281 --> 01:01:36.443
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, she kind of does like cop-ish, you're right.

01:01:37.828 --> 01:01:38.949
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate this so much.

01:01:39.409 --> 01:01:41.350
[SPEAKER_02]: It was my first new about this episode.

01:01:41.370 --> 01:01:42.810
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I cannot believe this.

01:01:42.950 --> 01:01:45.972
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I am so offended at this hair.

01:01:46.272 --> 01:01:52.795
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if charisma carpenter on her podcast ever gets into how bad the hair situation is.

01:01:53.075 --> 01:01:55.976
[SPEAKER_03]: I sincerely hope she does because she has, we deserve answers.

01:01:56.317 --> 01:02:00.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course, she's still covering Buffy proper.

01:02:00.739 --> 01:02:03.440
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't think that she's spun on here.

01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:05.061
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um,

01:02:06.001 --> 01:02:10.324
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's a very dire situation at this point.

01:02:10.484 --> 01:02:10.744
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:10.864 --> 01:02:21.950
[SPEAKER_02]: And according to a friend of the podcast, Hall Palmer, he says, he says, this is the worst one.

01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:26.833
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he said, wait, there still may be a bottom to hit, but we're close to it.

01:02:27.393 --> 01:02:28.975
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, what do you mean?

01:02:29.055 --> 01:02:32.138
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when I asked, does she do the full Kate plus eight porcupine?

01:02:32.738 --> 01:02:36.762
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, it's more of an outfit choice that makes the hair stand out.

01:02:38.015 --> 01:02:40.016
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the worst era of 40s hair.

01:02:40.836 --> 01:02:42.457
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much more I can take of this.

01:02:42.857 --> 01:02:43.557
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.

01:02:44.337 --> 01:02:46.998
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, have you feel like we're being pumped?

01:02:47.178 --> 01:02:52.060
[SPEAKER_02]: Because part of me feels like people, because people keep saying, oh, watch Angel Watch Angel gets better.

01:02:52.080 --> 01:02:55.701
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen gotten some emails saying, if you don't like Angel by now, you're not gonna like it.

01:02:55.781 --> 01:02:57.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they've given me a pretty much, which is fine.

01:02:57.942 --> 01:02:58.923
[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate that.

01:02:59.643 --> 01:03:04.845
[SPEAKER_02]: I also still feel like people are like, they need to keep watching Angel so that we can hear them rage about Cordelia's hair.

01:03:06.290 --> 01:03:11.976
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think I know why they want us to keep watching angel, but it's none of my business.

01:03:12.577 --> 01:03:14.379
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, good to know, good to know.

01:03:14.419 --> 01:03:19.425
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, anyway, I'm not spoiled on things really.

01:03:19.445 --> 01:03:25.511
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just that they're the the the the DVD covers on the platform.

01:03:25.531 --> 01:03:27.473
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we okay.

01:03:28.628 --> 01:03:33.811
[SPEAKER_03]: is sometimes revealing and I can't, yeah, I hope this, you know what I mean?

01:03:33.831 --> 01:03:48.961
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not spoiled per se, but I have assumptions based on the fact that I think people have said to us, we should finish angel after we're done with Buffy because they are characters who make appearances on angel.

01:03:48.981 --> 01:03:51.823
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so like do you know what I'm referring to?

01:03:52.903 --> 01:03:55.868
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I don't know the characters per se.

01:03:56.428 --> 01:03:58.431
[SPEAKER_02]: I would assume based on

01:03:59.623 --> 01:04:05.104
[SPEAKER_02]: like who these characters are that like Spike would be the one that makes the most sense for me to cross over.

01:04:05.505 --> 01:04:08.705
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, whatever, to me, who cares?

01:04:08.785 --> 01:04:11.746
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like I'm like, oh, it's a big spoiler because Spike's gonna die.

01:04:11.866 --> 01:04:12.506
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no.

01:04:12.887 --> 01:04:21.349
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's nothing like, what would you say if like a Spike face was on an angel TBD cover when he crossed so far, yeah.

01:04:21.389 --> 01:04:23.069
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what can you do about that?

01:04:23.169 --> 01:04:24.370
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't do anything, you know?

01:04:24.390 --> 01:04:24.970
[SPEAKER_02]: But who cares?

01:04:24.990 --> 01:04:25.110
[SPEAKER_02]: Again,

01:04:26.030 --> 01:04:29.713
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not precious about angel spoilers because simply I do not care.

01:04:30.453 --> 01:04:34.717
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but don't spoil us on Cordelia's hair because I do want my peer reaction to that.

01:04:34.737 --> 01:04:39.520
[SPEAKER_03]: I know nothing about Cordelia's hair, nor any storyline of which angel.

01:04:39.620 --> 01:04:40.161
[SPEAKER_03]: I know what I have.

01:04:40.581 --> 01:04:42.522
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, anything, I just need a Connor.

01:04:42.823 --> 01:04:45.605
[SPEAKER_02]: The fucking DVD, Wesley, they are the same.

01:04:47.987 --> 01:04:50.507
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a theory that is a theory.

01:04:50.547 --> 01:04:53.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody is backing you up on.

01:04:53.468 --> 01:04:55.388
[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like people are backing me up on it.

01:04:55.748 --> 01:04:56.609
[SPEAKER_03]: Who, name one.

01:04:57.529 --> 01:05:01.190
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a J last week had a look on his face like he backed me up.

01:05:01.750 --> 01:05:03.950
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Tom could back me up, maybe.

01:05:03.970 --> 01:05:07.751
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he literally said that he could help you with this.

01:05:07.951 --> 01:05:09.351
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he was like doing so bad.

01:05:09.811 --> 01:05:13.652
[SPEAKER_02]: Or it could be one of those situations where I'm so spot on and people are like, oh my god, what a genius.

01:05:15.310 --> 01:05:18.252
[SPEAKER_02]: could be like that time that we thought Angel was literally an angel.

01:05:18.632 --> 01:05:20.293
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's just logic.

01:05:20.893 --> 01:05:21.433
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

01:05:21.554 --> 01:05:22.114
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was.

01:05:23.014 --> 01:05:27.257
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, next week, we're getting very close to the end of the season.

01:05:27.317 --> 01:05:30.719
[SPEAKER_02]: Season six, episode 19, seeing red.

01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:34.641
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like Xander is going to go off the wall of him.

01:05:34.941 --> 01:05:35.261
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe

01:05:38.063 --> 01:05:41.046
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like the girl from Willy Wonka turned blue.

01:05:41.066 --> 01:05:42.868
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, violet.

01:05:42.908 --> 01:05:43.248
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

01:05:43.608 --> 01:05:44.930
[SPEAKER_02]: Violet, you're turning back.

01:05:44.970 --> 01:05:48.633
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when I had to leave the the preschool.

01:05:48.653 --> 01:05:49.554
[SPEAKER_02]: She's scary for you.

01:05:49.854 --> 01:05:50.555
[SPEAKER_03]: She's scary.

01:05:50.735 --> 01:05:51.015
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:51.876 --> 01:05:52.097
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:05:52.117 --> 01:05:53.398
[SPEAKER_02]: Did I tell you I finally watched wicked?

01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.140
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you did not tell me personally.

01:05:57.160 --> 01:06:11.407
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to find out about it like three weeks after the fact because I found something in the PSR discord right you talking about it and your takes for the coldest takes because it was everybody's takes.

01:06:11.587 --> 01:06:23.193
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know this is like I knew that like listen, all I could tell you is we watched both of them in one weekend and the first one we were riveted had our attention completely on it.

01:06:23.333 --> 01:06:24.614
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really lovely.

01:06:25.234 --> 01:06:30.437
[SPEAKER_02]: And the second part of it's like very much well, like it was like I don't understand the romance.

01:06:30.557 --> 01:06:35.059
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's good like I really and I love both those actors so it's not the acting talent.

01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:37.060
[SPEAKER_02]: It is literally just like the romance doesn't work for me.

01:06:37.260 --> 01:06:41.043
[SPEAKER_02]: had no chemistry because, respectfully, they're both gay.

01:06:41.944 --> 01:06:43.546
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not that, it's not even that.

01:06:43.646 --> 01:06:45.547
[SPEAKER_02]: It was more of like a plot thing.

01:06:45.627 --> 01:06:49.711
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, I didn't understand how we got to that point of like, oh, now they're in love.

01:06:50.391 --> 01:06:58.578
[SPEAKER_02]: I also felt like the second movie suffered so much because the two leads who were like so dynamic together have the most chemistry together were barely in any scenes together.

01:06:58.959 --> 01:06:59.379
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:06:59.759 --> 01:07:01.181
[SPEAKER_02]: So whatever, it's like it's,

01:07:01.761 --> 01:07:02.202
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.

01:07:02.322 --> 01:07:07.768
[SPEAKER_02]: I've also seen the slime version of Wicked, and I felt the same way about the second act, so it's not like a surprise.

01:07:08.008 --> 01:07:08.229
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:07:08.289 --> 01:07:09.951
[SPEAKER_02]: The best songs are in the first one.

01:07:10.531 --> 01:07:15.717
[SPEAKER_02]: So go figure that that will be the better movie, you know, but it was gorgeous.

01:07:15.778 --> 01:07:16.578
[SPEAKER_02]: It was beautiful movie.

01:07:16.598 --> 01:07:17.980
[SPEAKER_02]: Like in terms of the visuals and everything.

01:07:18.140 --> 01:07:19.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was very lovely.

01:07:19.982 --> 01:07:20.183
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:07:21.204 --> 01:07:22.085
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I've seen like it.

01:07:22.125 --> 01:07:22.926
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the tea.

01:07:22.966 --> 01:07:24.167
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the news.

01:07:25.028 --> 01:07:27.811
[SPEAKER_02]: Next week we'll be drawing my David talk about seeing red.

01:07:27.992 --> 01:07:28.893
[SPEAKER_02]: So that will be fun.

01:07:30.234 --> 01:07:34.939
[SPEAKER_02]: And Angel, season three episode 19, the price.

01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:41.967
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this the what is it called when you send someone the letter pay this much or I'm going to kill your baby?

01:07:43.821 --> 01:07:46.823
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a ransom note, that's it, that's the word, ransom note.

01:07:48.664 --> 01:07:49.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe that's what it is.

01:07:49.784 --> 01:07:52.506
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe everything has a price.

01:07:52.866 --> 01:07:58.109
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's mostly going to be joining a Quarty screw anytime soon.

01:07:58.349 --> 01:08:03.271
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course, because it was a mistake I have stupidity.

01:08:03.632 --> 01:08:05.433
[SPEAKER_02]: Even Fred was against him though.

01:08:06.862 --> 01:08:08.883
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's the one who you think will be most sympathetic.

01:08:09.103 --> 01:08:13.524
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what, it's it would be who Fred to get him out of the group.

01:08:13.544 --> 01:08:17.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Because then all the awkwardness is not so awkward.

01:08:17.145 --> 01:08:19.985
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, gone in, Fred are like, even more schmoopy now.

01:08:20.285 --> 01:08:22.546
[SPEAKER_02]: And she calls him Charles, which I'm like, can you stop?

01:08:25.267 --> 01:08:25.847
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of hate it.

01:08:27.647 --> 01:08:30.228
[SPEAKER_03]: I am still pro-gun in Fred.

01:08:30.748 --> 01:08:33.689
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I don't mind them, but they're a little schmoopy for me.

01:08:33.889 --> 01:08:34.909
[SPEAKER_03]: I like schmoopy.

01:08:35.718 --> 01:08:37.438
[SPEAKER_02]: a little on the schmick beside.

01:08:37.598 --> 01:08:38.239
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.

01:08:39.739 --> 01:08:43.380
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't love love as we've previously established now.

01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:46.140
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're hitting me.

01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:48.581
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, anyway, that's it.

01:08:49.321 --> 01:08:50.781
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else you want to tell the class about?

01:08:51.441 --> 01:08:55.822
[SPEAKER_02]: I finished brothers and sisters and there's a always it.

01:08:55.922 --> 01:08:56.962
[SPEAKER_03]: It was cracked out.

01:08:57.182 --> 01:09:00.703
[SPEAKER_03]: That was really, it was really cracked out.

01:09:00.823 --> 01:09:01.083
[SPEAKER_03]: I can

01:09:06.879 --> 01:09:08.440
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would break your brain.

01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:16.725
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, did they end the show by the one sister being like, I'm a republic, they just don't remind it.

01:09:16.745 --> 01:09:19.587
[SPEAKER_02]: They still did.

01:09:20.507 --> 01:09:21.508
[SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious.

01:09:21.588 --> 01:09:21.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:09:22.449 --> 01:09:23.009
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

01:09:24.870 --> 01:09:27.072
[SPEAKER_02]: We, I recently watched, I should say, we.

01:09:27.112 --> 01:09:27.813
[SPEAKER_02]: It was me on my own.

01:09:27.913 --> 01:09:32.777
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched the show The Testaments, which is the spin-off from the handmaid's tail.

01:09:33.037 --> 01:09:33.257
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:09:33.638 --> 01:09:34.158
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.

01:09:34.238 --> 01:09:34.999
[SPEAKER_02]: Highly recommend.

01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.021
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was, and you don't really need to even watch the handmaid's tail, honestly.

01:09:38.642 --> 01:09:40.143
[SPEAKER_02]: Young talent really, really good.

01:09:40.203 --> 01:09:42.685
[SPEAKER_02]: Very focused on like young women loved that.

01:09:43.446 --> 01:09:49.771
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we are caught up on Widow's Bay, which is like a very fun comedy thriller.

01:09:50.892 --> 01:10:00.300
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to watch it, especially because the lead Matthew Reese was a brother on brothers and sisters.

01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:02.261
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's married to a care wrestle.

01:10:02.582 --> 01:10:04.323
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:04.343 --> 01:10:09.667
[SPEAKER_03]: And also the next show that I'm trying to watch, actually, is six feet under.

01:10:09.687 --> 01:10:11.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

01:10:11.789 --> 01:10:14.511
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not showing up on the plaques.

01:10:14.912 --> 01:10:15.352
[SPEAKER_03]: So.

01:10:15.372 --> 01:10:16.293
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's enough.

01:10:16.753 --> 01:10:17.554
[SPEAKER_03]: It's rough.

01:10:17.634 --> 01:10:24.297
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to watch it because I think it's also a family drama and it's very dark.

01:10:24.377 --> 01:10:26.798
[SPEAKER_02]: It has some comedy bits, but it is very dark.

01:10:27.499 --> 01:10:28.099
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good though.

01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.300
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a reason it's like highly rated.

01:10:30.440 --> 01:10:31.361
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good.

01:10:31.441 --> 01:10:34.602
[SPEAKER_02]: It draws a lot around death, as you can imagine.

01:10:34.702 --> 01:10:36.163
[SPEAKER_03]: Peter cross isn't it?

01:10:36.683 --> 01:10:37.304
[SPEAKER_03]: From here ahead.

01:10:37.324 --> 01:10:37.484
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:10:37.824 --> 01:10:44.773
[SPEAKER_03]: And also Rachel Griffiths, she was in machine, what's it called, brothers and sisters, she was.

01:10:44.793 --> 01:10:53.664
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I want my new thing to be, I need to watch a show where a previous person was in the show.

01:10:53.684 --> 01:10:55.766
[SPEAKER_03]: And it would be kind of like,

01:10:56.655 --> 01:10:58.537
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the movie ladder podcast, but for TV.

01:10:59.097 --> 01:11:00.338
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, got it.

01:11:00.698 --> 01:11:01.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's it.

01:11:02.179 --> 01:11:07.483
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I watched parenthood and brothers and sisters, so then... Did you get Adam and watch hacks yet?

01:11:08.764 --> 01:11:12.167
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's still working on castle like his life depends on it.

01:11:12.367 --> 01:11:14.549
[SPEAKER_02]: How many seasons in is he on that?

01:11:15.069 --> 01:11:18.052
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like eight seasons in and I don't know if there's ever growth.

01:11:18.212 --> 01:11:18.872
[SPEAKER_03]: He has stopped.

01:11:19.713 --> 01:11:20.794
[SPEAKER_02]: How many seasons are there?

01:11:20.814 --> 01:11:21.494
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

01:11:21.514 --> 01:11:22.976
[SPEAKER_02]: I really... Yikes.

01:11:23.236 --> 01:11:23.956
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.

01:11:26.894 --> 01:11:28.195
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh oh, it only is a teasons.

01:11:28.415 --> 01:11:29.756
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, maybe he's on the last season.

01:11:29.836 --> 01:11:30.476
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there you go.

01:11:30.636 --> 01:11:30.796
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:11:30.856 --> 01:11:33.098
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what his next show after will be.

01:11:33.118 --> 01:11:35.539
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I will say hacks literally just ended last week.

01:11:35.899 --> 01:11:38.561
[SPEAKER_02]: Um and really lovely series finale.

01:11:38.721 --> 01:11:39.121
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say.

01:11:39.481 --> 01:11:42.102
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, then I'm just going to get in to hacks on my own again.

01:11:42.122 --> 01:11:43.463
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really good.

01:11:43.603 --> 01:11:43.943
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:11:44.344 --> 01:11:46.725
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, we're not finishing scrubs any time soon.

01:11:48.758 --> 01:11:52.719
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, that's pretty much all I've been watching.

01:11:52.899 --> 01:12:00.741
[SPEAKER_02]: I think and don't forget to tell Adam about jet lag because I really do think he would like it actually Anyway, yeah, that's it.

01:12:00.901 --> 01:12:02.301
[SPEAKER_02]: That's about all definitely.

01:12:02.321 --> 01:12:03.461
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me know if you watch this screen under.

01:12:03.581 --> 01:12:10.443
[SPEAKER_02]: It is really good I watched it recently because crying laughing the podcast crying laughing I sometimes appear on They covered it

01:12:10.983 --> 01:12:11.965
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, so I watched with them.

01:12:12.405 --> 01:12:19.075
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if ever shows up on the plaques, then HBO Max is really rude now, because now I can't use your log in anymore.

01:12:19.095 --> 01:12:21.499
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I canceled because it got S-spensive.

01:12:22.501 --> 01:12:24.964
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they off before them, but yeah.

01:12:26.017 --> 01:12:26.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?

01:12:26.597 --> 01:12:28.198
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was because I canceled it.

01:12:28.838 --> 01:12:29.359
[SPEAKER_03]: It might have been.

01:12:29.419 --> 01:12:34.641
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was because they were like, hey, all the users and everything don't live under the house.

01:12:34.801 --> 01:12:35.121
[SPEAKER_03]: So.

01:12:35.141 --> 01:12:36.622
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so stupid.

01:12:36.902 --> 01:12:37.723
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's stupid.

01:12:37.943 --> 01:12:38.263
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.

01:12:38.643 --> 01:12:39.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:12:39.824 --> 01:12:40.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that's it.

01:12:40.784 --> 01:12:42.165
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's all I have to report.

01:12:42.245 --> 01:12:51.650
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be back next week with some more buffy season six episode 19 until then everyone here and if the lesson.

01:12:54.287 --> 01:12:55.918
[SPEAKER_01]: Shit, I ain't sure you start