Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 6 Wrap-Up

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before It's just behind never ending windows All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need a partner for a ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word and I'll be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 Isn't me to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's shows taught me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shit 90's shows taught me was not filmed before live studio audience.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you ready to play another day?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So are we.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to Shit 90's Show's taught me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just sterling here with my co-hosts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm free, Sarah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jess, I cannot believe it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another one in the books.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How can we do it again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again and again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's honestly kind of wild that we're already, like, almost all the way through the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, season six is done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have one more season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm not going to need to look at this spreadsheet of like, when the heck did we start this journey?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it feels like both we've been on it forever, but also like it just started.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you mean season six or Buffet have been prior to Sire in general?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Both.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We started this project January of 2024.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like when we're all set, all is set in Don, it will have basically been three years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Take it on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So long show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Long show seven, seven seasons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the reasons why we weren't sure we were going to do Buffy in the first place was because it was a it was a big project so but we're here and we're nearly done we have one more season to go but before we get to that we have this monster this monster not a man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not it's season six to talk about and I mean it's no secret that you and I got very fatigued.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a unique situation to be honest with you because it's the first time that you and I took a big break.

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[SPEAKER_02]: during a season of a television show that we're covering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think that helped us in terms of no season six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it would have already been an issue for us, but I think that this did not help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel as though because not only are we going into it of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, I don't fucking like the season, but I don't remember 90% of the reason why.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just the, I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's really fair.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So for those who like don't remember, or you really probably didn't feel too much of an impact because we pre-recorded so much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we basically stopped watching the show between the end of March and the end of May.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there were really two full months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: where we weren't recording for Sarah's maternity leave, parental leave, whatever you want to call it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's, I mean, that's a huge chunk when you consider the fact that we've only ever taken like a week, maybe too off at most consecutively.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, and it's at, we took a break after episode 16.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So after the wedding episode was when we were off for a while, and then we came back with normal again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like it also kind of fell in a weird spot in terms of like when our break was the fact that when we came back, we had like less than a quarter of the season left to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree, I think like even without all of that, I still think this is like a bottom season for me because when I was doing our little, we have our little stuff that we go through, we talk through the character breakdowns, then we do our character ranking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I was looking at the character ranking, I was like literally who is going in first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I was having a tough time figuring out who I thought had a good season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yes, like, obviously this is like the depression in season, like no one's having a good time, no one is happy, but it's just telling Timmy that I was really struggling with where to put people and in terms of like picking up my favorite episodes, it was like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like two and like that's it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that they're the most obvious, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just, this was a struggle of a season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate to say it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: it wasn't my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have the same vibes as like the first five seasons do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it just felt different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On top of that for me, I don't even think that it was that depressing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't like, I know people are calling it the Depression season, but I don't, it wasn't,

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[SPEAKER_02]: what I expected it to be when I hear depression season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, like everybody was like kind of sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's more so that it was the first, like the first time like the heroes are everybody's making actively bad decisions and kind of using their

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[SPEAKER_02]: pass to try to explain why they're making these bad decisions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, and it's hard to root for everybody, and that's why we're saying like, oh, I don't even know what like the character rankings would be because

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[SPEAKER_02]: unlike every other season where we're saying, we like everybody, it's hard to place it, or, you know, we, we used to say, oh, like, I'm putting this person at the bottom, but not because I just like them, I like everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this season, like everybody kind of was making bad decisions, everybody kind of really such, like it all just didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, season six is interesting to me,

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[SPEAKER_02]: good ideas, but it was not executed well because I'm trying to remember a bunch of things and I do think that the season had like a lot of potential.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Buffy coming back and she was actually in heaven and not in the health dimension, that's so fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that

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[SPEAKER_02]: on y'all like doing something and eventually becoming a vengeance team and again, really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Willow becoming Dark Willow, that's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I even think that the concept of the loser trio of the insells being the big bad quote and quote of the season ahead of its time, as so many will say, I do think it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and especially being like, well, how can you get bigger than the big bad being a God, you can't?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then let's make them a mortal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's so much that's interesting in this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it just wasn't executed very well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It might be,

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[SPEAKER_02]: who oversaw it, it might be like a writer issue, I think it's all the above, obviously transitioning from one channel to the next, losing the disconnection or the connection between angel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: was this the season that they're like, Buffy was literally like, I need to guess it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to go and talk to Angel to talk my home back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and we didn't even see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because they were not on the same channel, which was just bad shit crazy of like, we're gonna have this whole thing and neither, neither Angel nor Buffy actually showed them meeting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was a bunch of fuckery.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that this had so much potential this season and like I said, it just wasn't executed because of maybe reasoning that was not even under anybody's control.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know I agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it had potential and they just made some really poor decisions and took certain storylines in directions that ultimately did not work for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Namely, the spuffy stuff and the magic as drugs stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there were certain, like season long,

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[SPEAKER_03]: decisions that really bothered me, that just fell flat for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not necessarily against a darker, more adult version of Buffy, specifically when the characters are aging as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It only makes sense, right, your characters, your audience, they're all kind of aging simultaneously.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We might as well make the show a little darker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It just felt like the levity, like it lost the essence of the show in going too dark and making these decisions that

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[SPEAKER_03]: at a certain point, felt like they were just trying to be sensationalists.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were just like trying to like go for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I felt like that ultimately did not work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But let's talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's break down our characters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure we'll get into all of the stuff that didn't work for us the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, we gotta start with Buffie and our titular character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: who's back from the dead, as you mentioned, we find out she was in a heaven to mention, not a hell to mention when they brought her back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And through all of this, she does make a connection with spike because he is the only one she really seems to be able to connect with because he has this kind of like darker edge to him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is lying to her friends, not letting them know that she was

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're all of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They develop a relationship where it seems like they're just kind of having sex everywhere, breaking down houses behind dumpsters as one does and I guess we could stop there and break down like I liked

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really did like the decision to have her come back from a heaven to mention not a hell to mention because it like fucks her up man and I appreciated getting that kind of inner turmoil from Buffy and I think it made so much sense to have that be the catalyst that kind of pushes her towards spike if they wanted to develop the spuffy thing that all of the fans were craving to me this really really worked at the beginning of the season this made sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that it was a really cool decision to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really surprised by it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was an interesting twist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was interesting for her to be like, gosh, there was a moment where I just was able to finally breathe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had no more responsibilities and it felt warm and I felt free.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I came crashing back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to reality.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really cool and interesting, and it was a huge surprise for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also don't hate that she connected with Spike this way, and I don't even hate that she was fucking behind a dumpster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I even liked those days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that when she was crashing through that house, I thought it was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was having a zipper or a hurried round the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the reason is that it were for me it was because I didn't have the want that you did like I wasn't shipping these to I was just like

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the worst.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he was the worst.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, he's toxic and not like a good boyfriend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's why or a good partner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you have that's why I was like, yeah, like let this be mainly sex between them because that made more sense to me than I love you from like Buffy's perspective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember being like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, like I think that spike like my think that he loves her, but like how can he really love her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still am not like that confident that he loved her, but apparently he did enough for him to want to become human or

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[SPEAKER_02]: soulful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think that I might have any of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like my, I think it's because I be always keeping my expectations low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is my key to success in this life and in television.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I didn't mind the relationship with Spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it got toxic, but I really knew it was always going to be toxic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, once again, I wasn't disappointed where you, my friend, was hopeful as the person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm this person that's supposed to be the romantic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one loves love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are supposed to be the one that is cynical.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What happened to you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I thought they had such a fun back and forth that I like their chemistry was always so good that I was excited to see the potential.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I had no belief that's like, oh, this is her OTP.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I shipped them forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I never thought that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what disappointed me was, it really felt like the writers were like, oh, you spuffy fans want to see this, wham and just like smashed our face in the mud repeatedly all season, and that sucked, that really, really sucked, because it was like again, building two, by getting his soul back, we could have gotten there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We did not need him to try to rape Buffy like those were things we didn't need to see and I like even before then I was complaining about it Because I was really upset and like annoyed that they were ruining what I thought was like a really fun parody We're making it sad instead of like fun and light and like in a scape

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that is even like my own personal thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that, you know, I don't think that was even like a terrible writing decision.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like the attempted rape was definitely one of probably one of the worst decisions of the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it just for me I wanted to see, I really enjoyed her having this connection with Spike that she couldn't have with other people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and like having that builds to a place where she could confide in him and obviously she trusted him to watch Dawn and all of this stuff and it just gets like totally ruined and not only ruins the pairing of spuffy but ruins the character of Spike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like talk about character assassination.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so all of that like just really, I struggled with it this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like, it felt like needlessly,

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[SPEAKER_03]: mean the writers honestly, it felt like a slap in the face to all of the fans and I'm assuming there were way more stuffy fans than you know than even or maybe more die hard stuffy fans the stuffy fans and I am that were like really upset by this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One thing I do think is interesting about buffy storyline this season though is her money struggles and like

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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciated that as a storyline because it's very realistic, right, that Buffy lost her mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is now responsible for her sister.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She has a huge house, so she has a job that doesn't pay shit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, she's going to struggle with money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What I didn't need, though, was how much time we spent to the double meat palace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like why, I don't even think it's that much time we spent at WMU Palace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was probably like four separate occasions, but the whole episode, and that multiple scenes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is that whole episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw them again with Riley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it like a couple of like one scene ors here and there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of thought that the custody issues with Don was a little bit more interesting, but it sizzled out real quick when she destroyed the evidence when she got to play like invisible girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that was going to go farther than it actually did of like an actual threat that Don was going to get taken away, but that didn't really, like I said,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like once again, I think that had potential, a potential wasn't executed very well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like very, very mildly interested in all of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, I don't even, I know that Buffy was sad, but I really think that she was not sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As a resident sad girl, I'm sadder on a Tuesday than Buffy was the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know sad, I know sad, I don't think she was that sad, I don't know, I didn't see that many years, I don't know, dumpster sex scream said to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scream sucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have sex.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What actually?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scream sucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scream sad is, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, she was sad so she wanted to make you some bad life decisions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who has it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who has it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, all the old in there are even shows they're sad in this in different ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, some look out a window and cry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is my burden to bear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw no windows nor much rain.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're in Sunnydale, you know, it's in the name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying I see no proof that she was that sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm joking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm joking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just lame.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, do you want to talk about, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really like to the storyline because it feels so teenagery to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it feels so teenagery to just be like stealing things because you need to like fulfill some and deenus in yourself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, um, I really like this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it made a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciated the resolution of everything of like the honest stuff and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I liked all of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do I wish Dawn had more to do this season?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I say this every season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish she had more to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like next season we'll probably get more with Dawn actually being able to do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think the more obviously emotional aspect of Dawn's storyline was her connection with Tara, Willow and Tara break up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... she's devastated she seems to be really struggling only for willow and tear to get back together and then her divine terrorist body which yeah one would assume will have long lasting implications for dawn i mean you would assume the six months that this girl has been alive she is lost like every single person that she's ever kind of in contact with she lost her fake mother she lost

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[SPEAKER_02]: Riley, she lost Tara, she lost her sister and then her sister came back, like willow kind of went off the deep end, like spying ran away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like every single person that this alone leaves in contact with, oh, of course, jiles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I swear to goodness if this if Dawn was a real person, she would be so fucked up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: so fucked up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She'd have to be in therapy for literally the rest of her life and even then it probably wouldn't be able to necessarily hit on all the issues that she has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So because how are you until therapist like, but am I real?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because once I was a little energy ball, like you need like a supernatural therapist at that point, you know, real.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She feels things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's she's not she's a character in a TV show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a she's definitely not real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also liked the club to maniac storyline because I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like the hey days of Jen smacking Abby in the face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I miss those days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we had a great time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also, I mean, the whole, um, uh, her not going to school thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm then getting in trouble and then possibly losing custody or Buffy lives in custody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: once again, like that goes into or trickles down from the Buffy storyline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like it fizzled out really quickly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, I went to have wanted more time with that storyline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just comes down to

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[SPEAKER_02]: But all these extra characters, they just did not know, or they don't have time to give Dawn more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really, really hoping and excited to at the thought that Dawn is going to take like a real,

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[SPEAKER_02]: um substantial part in crime fighting vampire fighting next season, which means like it probably will happen as much as I think and hope it will, which will of course anger us really, really badly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be like when you're a kid and you have like an older sibling and they're playing a video game and they're like, well, you can't play with me, but you can watch me play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to be like Don gets to like sit and watch Shubuffy fight vampires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The funny thing is that the younger siblings always watch, like, my best friend always let her younger sister watch her play the Sims, and such a bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For younger sister, legit sat there and watched her sister play the Sims.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as did I watch my brother play video games because I wasn't a lot to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, these are the struggles of a younger sibling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every young sibling knows

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[SPEAKER_02]: get over it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the stuff I need to talk about in therapy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's no sad and funny thing that you're struggling with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My brother never let me play video games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who cares?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Video games is right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're brain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate mom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even get video games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My parents didn't even allow me to video games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit to play the sentence, but still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I didn't like Miranda didn't get to watch the Sims with me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shy said, go away Miranda, you don't get to watch the Sims.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did appreciate the one episode where Dawn accidentally like wishes everyone can't leave the house.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was pretty funny and that was like Dawn did that, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She really did that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She kind of messed up a couple of times because,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Zander fucked up everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going lightly on Zander today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause he ain't recalling this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He pissed me off a lot of times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, because I remember, I thought we all thought that Don was the reason why they all sang songs, but because of the necklace, but turns out somehow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that was Zander's point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they kind of got it out of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they let him off the hook one to many times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they understand what happened about the others.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Moving on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about Willow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a big Willow season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She goes through a lot, some for better, some for worse.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really was on a rampage against Willow for the majority of the season because I really hated the like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Willow's becoming too powerful, she is like using magic too much magic because drugs and now she's abusing it and it causes a strain between her and Tara, they end up, she makes Tara for get an argument they had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still so upset about this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and raged by it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They end up breaking up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She gives up magic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She wants to get Tara back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the whole rat Amy situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She visits this like Rick guy, rack, whoever the hell that guy was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All for her to get back together with Tara for like a day and then Tara dies and that's when

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to know, what were your thoughts on the Willow story arc?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, are you thinking net positive or net negative on Willow's storyline this season?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Positive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Positive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't heat any of what they did with Willow this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I really don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Number one, entertaining as hack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, without her nonsense, I don't think this season would have absolutely anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She made it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: made the season interesting to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My only issue is I wanted more of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted more dark willow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted a whole season of dark willow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to dark willow to actually do bad things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She only did, she did a little bit of bad things, but I wanted more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have an issue with this show in general, the formatting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is that we can have good things

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this show really does itself a disservice by every season we must wrap up the big bad by the end of the season or like the villain or the story by the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes not even introduced the big bad until like three quarters of the way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, that is also a completely changed our minds about who the big bad is due to casting

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that if the entire season was dark willow is our big bad, I think that there could have been a compelling argument that it was a great season and she might have been as high as Daddy Bamson glory, because

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting and it's a whole season of one of our good characters turning bad, but we have to resolve it by the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that this show, once again, doesn't help a disservice by doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We could have had two seasons of glory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We could have, or a season of half of glory, but now I want

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[SPEAKER_03]: Part of that too is like the we don't know if we're getting renewed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know if we're getting another season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have to like wrap things up just in case.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't know enough to be like, it's not like modern television.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where it's like, oh, we know we're going to have three seasons to tell our full story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or they got ready for two more seasons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I assume they were kind of on a season to season thing, especially because it was like canceled and then brought back for season six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you overall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, not even wanting season to season stuff, wanting dark willow for more than like two episodes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, they really, I understand the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand the like white insults, men are like the big bad in life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but Dark Willow is more compelling and so like and my biggest great because I think Willow has high highs and low lows for me this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not fully satisfied with her overall story arc mostly because

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[SPEAKER_03]: They, it felt like they wanted to like dip their toe in the pool and then pull it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, okay, we're going to have Willow get addicted to magic, which we've talked to death.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't work for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like, let's even set that aside, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Set aside my issues with the magicous drugs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted her to fall for like lean in and they really

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[SPEAKER_03]: do that until terror dies, which I understand being a motivator and like a catalyst for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But...

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even then it wasn't until like one or two episodes into her being Dark Willow that I really felt the like villain vibe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really want her to be like that scene with Giles for she's like like where she like says like maybe you should be wary of me because I'm like if I'm so powerful or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want that Dark Willow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted her to lean into being

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[SPEAKER_03]: evil and powerful in a way that we just never saw it always felt like a bit more of a pity party for Willow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, I just need you to tear it back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, while she's doing like super shitty shit and like pretending that that didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like shitty shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the fact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was terrible, but I love the fact that she was altering Tara's memory, especially after the

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[SPEAKER_02]: the glory modification right that talk about like evil that is like evil it's quiet evil it's not like oh oh we're manipulative evil yeah scarier in a way then a big

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[SPEAKER_02]: loud evil because it's from somebody that you're supposed to trust the most.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like, it gets weird when she's like, oh, I'm so overwhelmed by all this magic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm juiced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's so stupid and weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And...

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's because of the like magic is drugs storyline.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and because we were having to expedite that storyline because there were only like two episodes left, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if if we had drawn out this storyline of Willow becoming Dark Willow for longer for a longer stretch over the season,

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[SPEAKER_03]: we don't have to have her be like juiced.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It could be like a slower burn.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She could slowly get more and more and more and more powerful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even to the point where maybe people aren't even necessarily noticing how powerful she is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's to me a better storyline than like rushing it at the end, which again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: at the very end of the day, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She rips that dude skin off and I am here for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I screamed, I was so happy because it was so crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it took us so long to get there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That like, I wasn't as happy because it just, the journey was so arduous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it just felt like, you know, I'm walking through molasses that it took us so long to get there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we at least, hey, at least we got the return of Rattany.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Amy is no longer a rat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she, that was also fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fun combat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have been waiting for for a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also it was fun that like Amy was like a really bad influence on her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, like I think that we could do it without the magic as drugs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that she, I really liked when they were at the bronze and they were like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: doing things that like seem harmless, but also you're abusing, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, when they went out together, yeah, and they were up on that like whatever that air catwalk thing, yeah, I thought that that was really fun and interesting because once again, and it's just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is like, oh, you're about infamous on me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're telling, like, we should be kind of like, what Tara is saying, like, we should use magic for good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot more organic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think it's a different, like, white magic versus black magic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and you know, we love a little bit of black magic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, I think that without calling it drugs or making it seem like drugs like once again, she could still be a bad influence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I ultimately like I do, I am happy and I do like that we got the Dark Willow storyline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've said it before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's have the loser trio be our red herring bad villain for a quarter two half the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you a half the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want it, but I'll give it to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have the tower thing not that I want to be gone, but have the tower death midway through the season

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[SPEAKER_02]: really, really dark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like have that be the catalyst.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that works and it makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of wish that she was, I think I came up with Sidia last last season that like her magic is the thing that kills her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would have been really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it makes more sense for it to be her death to be the catalyst of why she becomes like dark hair and black-eyed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just would have, it's not bad thing that I want more of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously we want less of the loser trio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the way to do that is like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: get rid of them earlier, and you can still have them as villain as the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you just need to swap the time spent at them, you know, make them the first third and then make dark willow the remaining two thirds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we could have had the best of everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think once again, it's a positive, the willow stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like even like saying that like I didn't have I had a great time watching her I thought that she was probably her stuff was probably the best thing of the season for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it worked the most.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If she says magic one more time I will literally kill myself and take all my skin off and just die and just agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate it so so annoying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But once again, there's like nothing that could be done about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I suppose unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about the ender.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he really got up to some fuckery this season and in right, he didn't, he didn't, in one bad thing, one bad thing, multiple bad things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In my revisiting of the season, I was like, wow, I actually really hate him even more, because we start the season with him not wanting to tell people that him and Ania are engaged, which is like, numero uno red flag.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're the one who post sur, why don't you want to tell your friends?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand the buffy death, but then she's back and he's still not admitting it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It pisses me the fuck off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then obviously the whole wedding to Ania and him being a dumbass mother fucker and then dumping her at the altar really fucked up and like then wanting to like get her back which it's like give her some fucking space my guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not my guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not my fucking guy ever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then he has the audacity to basically slut shame her for fucking spike when she had no idea there were cameras on her like way over the line way too much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He gets like a slight redemption moment when Buffy and Terra get shot and he's like at the hospital with Buffy right like slight redeeming moment there and slight redeeming moment when he is the one to ultimately Stop willow and turn her back to redhead willow by being like, I love you forever blah blah blah

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but mostly he pissed me the fuck off with his treatment of on you this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was not okay by me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not okay at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I do think that his moment at the end is really, really big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's it's not like he just.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did save the day, like literally, and by using his words, not even, like, a force, uh, because he has nothing else to fucking use, because he's a mortal douchebag.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he has, uh, army experience or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to stop bringing that up, because he hasn't used that in, like, little, little season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then also, like, Riley has, like, actual army experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's actually, like, so fun to use this to this day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an active member.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm as mad at him about I am mad that he left her at the altar however I do think that the matter of which where we got the like ghosts of Christmas past type of thing like I I really am feeling for him in that thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing worse than like I knew it was false.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't ask that dude a single question to confirm his identity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like you honestly think like if future Jess came to you and was like these are all of your things and it seemed like kind of compelling like you don't like you think that you're gonna ask questions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, what is my social security number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, I'm not really off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So easy too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like more than what is my favorite memory?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's so many questions you can ask and he didn't ask a single one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would have loved it if he asked a question in the guy in the answer and he was like, hmm, seems legit and then moved on, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not a single question was asked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The thing is Sarah, it's like, yes, maybe we point this as like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh, indicative of how he was feeling already that like he already wasn't sure about getting married and this just like flamed the fan of the flames of those feelings for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is a sentence, my God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I was just so pissed off like you're at the fucking wedding.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's so brutal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How, and then to ask for forgiveness, like I could never ever, like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: publicly embarrassing me is a quick way to have me wish death upon you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just, you know, no, you know, like you, in private is one thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In front of all my friends and fucking family, absolutely not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was an ideal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was very humiliating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't, there was no way out of it, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he couldn't, at that point, like, he, there was no way, there was nothing to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they could do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, honestly, they just go forward with it and then like at the very, at the worst is like ask for an old man within the first 24 hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get to presence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: cash the checks split it 50 50 and call it a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's the honest the honest good to god thing that like it's just like that's the only thing you could do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then just be like, hey, B.T.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I might be killing you in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ania would be like, hmm, babe, I don't think that's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Girl, a little bitch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, confide in a single fucking friend about what you're thinking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, truly, he sits on this information, makes all the, all by himself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, he made a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, I, that was a big mistake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that maybe,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was probably not great seeing somebody that you still love have sex with somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If in somebody that you kind of hate, and he didn't know the context over it, maybe he thought it wasn't like sad, like a...

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[SPEAKER_02]: He left her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: at the altar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She can fuck anyone she wants.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he is not allowed to say anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's so sad and pathetic at times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he is pathetic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sick and tired.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing is, is that he's still a hero at the end of the day, and that's that, like, he's still, he still is the ender, and he's still part of the group, and he's spoken to me, part of the group, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of him, you can't get rid of

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad we've kind of gone back to our roots here, you know, like I feel like I have to clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am friends of boys, but in my friends with a boy to the fact of like, let me tell you everything about my life, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't trust men in that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell my girl, my girls, like all of my emotions, like, you know, my things going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do that with my guy friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a sort of like distance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That I keep with them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just my guy friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like let me talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, keep me or sports or Something but I'm not gonna like open my heart over and like tell you all my feelings and thoughts That's why you don't become friends or boys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just I just don't associate with men in general The girls are the girls and the men are

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[SPEAKER_02]: As, you know, Samantha from Sex and City said, the men are for a fucking is what she said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do we establish that as we move on to talking about daddy jiles?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the men are for fucking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My problem with Giles is that the reason why they wrote in, why he's leaving was stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was fucked, it made no fucking, oh, you don't need me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bitch, she has no job, no money, and her mom just died, what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: In Giles' defense, once again, the thing is, is that every single time somebody reached out to him and was like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: we're kind of in a little bit of a problem or like something big happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He hopped on that plane and came right back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a long way to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Although maybe he got teleported that last time by the witches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: even though that would be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to come up with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know who the coven is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we get to know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He did have some like the thing is, when Giles is there, he fucking slaps.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like when Giles is there, he hits it out of the park 10 out of 10 times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Him calling Willow like an immature little girl, him coming in and when Willow's like fucking around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're a little girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Titi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know a little girl.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So incredible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I hope people are watching Love Island and understand that reference because that is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, it's me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All Adam does all day and it cracks me every single time is go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm GT.

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[SPEAKER_03]: See, we are very deep in the Corbin vocal stems of Melanese.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Melanese.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Melanese.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Melanese.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go to toys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a smoothie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, um, G-B-T. Just like Giles hits every time when he's on the... Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Giles, thanks fucking hits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I loved the return of Giles was 10 out of 10, like him catching up with Buffy and like hysterically laughing over the fact that she fucks spike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like all of that worked for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, wait, wait.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about the finale and how like silly business it was of the coven in the magic and empathy and blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Giles slaps.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Giles is incredible and I really did feel his absence this season and I understand like the actor this wasn't a writing decision like they were going with what the actor wanted go back to his family in England blah blah blah they kind of ran a better excuse for him but they could only write for him like when he's there right so I did miss him though like I really felt like this season was missing Giles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'm still on this movie but yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: think goodness, he was in the episode, the singing episode, the musical episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was really great in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the season really did need him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really missed him every single time he came back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't love the fact that he was, like, dead on the floor last episode pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was worried they were going to kill him off and I was about to reach for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also didn't like the, like, just position dump, like the, the exposition dump exposition exposition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm barely, I'm up at four o'clock every single day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And no, I'm not okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just thought it was so stupid about how they did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is why I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was a coffin there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't get to see the coffin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is he under save the day and then on it was like zander really you know you say it isn't so really I just like so stupid big out like I missed him I missed him in the season I'm so curious how much jiles we're gonna get next season yeah I'm a little nervous about it probably about the same amount as my assumption but yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: very thankful that they didn't kill them off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They really could have, but they could have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, they did kill off with Tara.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even that mad about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like Tara had like a good season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The first initial part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was the finally new like we're getting in the groove of like how to use her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that she had some like really good moments solo with Buffy, especially with Buffy telling her and only her initially about and then her spilling it to Willow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a her about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that they really didn't use Tara.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think that like she finally got a little bit of a personality.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that they, I liked how that she was able to like stand up for herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was obviously the star of the musical episode with her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She also saved the day too on a few different occasions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like having, because Willow couldn't use magic and she could.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like she was able to kind of step in and save the day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It mostly was like, I was sad to lose her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: never fully got explored in the way I wanted her to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, we talk a little bit about like the, you know, they love to kill off queer characters and like finally her and Willa were able to like kiss on screen and then they killed Tara immediately.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, you know, that kind of sucks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do like Tara and I like what we got from her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just wish there was more

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was pretty predictable that either her or Ania was going to die on the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like when I was heading towards Tara, it was like super obvious that that was it was going to go especially on using her in a way that made Willow's character and storyline progress.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not mad that she died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it does kind of stink that and we talked about this that we felt like it was a little cheap that Warren was the one to do it and he didn't even kill her she was just kind of got on the crossfire collateral damage which kind of stinks it really sucks of like nobody went to go check on her body and she was kind of left for don't defined I felt like that was really disrespectful towards her body.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that the character of Tara had so much potential and once again, not fully executed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, this is a big ensemble cast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The disrespect that this girl did not even get in the opening credits until the episode died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That sucked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That really sucked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was rough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your character that's kind of similar where they don't really know what to do with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to spend the first tap of the season up until her wedding, just talking about her wedding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was so over that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's kind of, kind of, um, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of relatable to a lot of people where they just like they have a party where they have like their wedding and it's all they can think about and all they can do is talk about their wedding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am I understand then I do think that it was I thought that it made it was of the character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I didn't think that it was like outside of

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[SPEAKER_02]: what Ania would do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the interesting stuff happened when she did get married and gay and left off the altar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still think that that face that she made when the head

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[SPEAKER_02]: demon vengeance do it's talking to her and she's like tears on the floor and she looks up at him with like anger and sadness and grief and you know um i thought that acting job by Emma coffee old was our reliant it was the the look of a thousand daggers um the having sex with

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like, I wasn't gonna do really work for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And especially like when I'm very protective of Onya, it's just like, well, don't touch that man, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't touch him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I do love her becoming a vengeance demon again, however, that also kind of like sizzled out and she couldn't even do anything to Zander and that was kind of lame and we didn't see her doing anything cool except like

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had potential and they just like didn't see it through.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if she can't do anything to Zander, like getting up to some vengeance antics would have been fun to see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because we've been wanting this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I felt like the first half of the season at the beginning of the season with the wedding stuff was just such a bust for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then once she does decide she wants to go back to convenience, we were both like so excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it kind of doesn't really go anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only stuff like you said that really isn't mattering is her ability to teleport.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think a lot of missed opportunities with Agna for this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mind her fucking spike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that really didn't bother me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it made kind of sense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they both feel like such outsiders that it made sense to me that they would connect over that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, yeah, missed opportunities and I sort of fucking got her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She gets back to, let's say, enter next season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm all going to lose my shit, but it's probably going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So whatever, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right, let's finish things out by talking, or finish the character breakdowns out by talking about spike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, what a fucking, what a, what a time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: they had so as much kind from them at the top of the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had so much opportunity here, and I feel like they really just, I mean, it got worse and worse, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, uh, I think

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[SPEAKER_03]: culminating in the attempted rape scene and what really pisses me off is the fact that they're going to try to redeem him next season because now he has a soul.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not here for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to see it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like every ounce of good will they built up for this character over the seasons when he got the chip and like kind of sense he got the chip honestly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that ruined because of what he tried to do to Buffy?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it really sucks because they didn't need to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes me sad, especially because Don hates him too now, and they had such a cute little special relationship.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's on everyone's shit list for a very good reason now, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it makes you feel sad for the actor as well who puts in a lot of good work to make everybody fall in love for the character despite what I mean, we've talked about this kind of like until we were blue and face, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that James Marssters was only supposed to be in seasons one maybe two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe probably excuse me two and maybe three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah because as you know like we don't really like to bring back villains into multiple seasons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be surprised if he was only supposed to be a season 2 guy, but because of his dynamic and the way that he's very charismatic, they wanted to bring him back, ultimately becoming not only a guest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: character or a guest star, but a recurring star, and then eventually part of the main cast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's his work, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for that guy, that actor, to put in all that good work, and people following in love with the character, which I think largely is due to the actor, to kind of get slapped in the face, and now, for I think back in the early 2000s,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that sort of a thing people probably had more of a forgiving attitude for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you and I very much look in a 20 25 lens of I don't think that a lot of people I think that we are like

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's an on starter like there's not there's no going back to this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that people didn't have that relationship or that those feelings back then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was more of the culture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: things were more brash, we forgave things that were inappropriate that we probably shouldn't have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We used language that was inappropriate that we know we shouldn't have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stuff like that, like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, it was just part of the culture.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they did this sort of thing a lot where it was like redeeming characters that did some like really awful shit, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that, I felt like that was so common as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: a lot harder now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Less of a tolerance of it now because because thankfully, we are able to be loud and stand in our, I mean, back in the day, like stuff like rape,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a lot of it was how shush we were embarrassed by a women or often be like, well, what were you wearing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or like, um, like, just put yourself in a compromise in situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why were you walking home alone?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like drinking?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like now in 2025, like women are able to be more vocal about it and be like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is like fucked up and I'm not gonna tolerate it and it's the men's bad behavior.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a cultural shift and I think that is part of the reason why spike is

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[SPEAKER_02]: doing something like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in a seventh season, we're spending time redeeming him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that this would happen now in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think it just keeps in 2020.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like three times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's very hard for me to enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I wasn't gonna correct it the first time and then how the worth three times and I'm like making a shit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like, hey, hey, Vaxle, what the fuck is this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you still have me bring it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I am.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_03]: God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, 2026, we don't have that.

57:44.909 --> 57:49.654
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, actually, you know, in 2025, if you don't have that color, it's 2026.

57:49.854 --> 57:54.780
[SPEAKER_02]: We do mean we do have this to have that we're back to having dollars for it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little like cultural shift, you know.

57:59.145 --> 58:02.149
[SPEAKER_02]: how like tradwives are of Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now like the poor people are tradwives.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then like the rich tradwives are now becoming girl bosses again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even have a lot of tradwives.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's just like a, and you know, we were corrected or informed like there were female writers on the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, like that passed the sniff test for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, I think that maybe

58:32.558 --> 58:44.048
[SPEAKER_02]: in 2002, a female writer did not feel comfortable saying that this was an appropriate in a room of male writers.

58:44.108 --> 58:52.094
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's totally a possibility or maybe she didn't think it was an appropriate for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't pass our sniff test.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we talked about a billion times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that you're going to have a really, really hard time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to

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[SPEAKER_02]: be forgiving or not forgiving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm not going to forgive the character's spike, but I understand it's not the actor's problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a writing issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to have to take the stance of being interested in how they're going to attempt it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it's going to be hard next season trying to talk about the character's spike,

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[SPEAKER_02]: with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't have a very hard to, I think you personally are going to have a really really hard time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I'm going to be a menace, I can't even tell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, well, you know, we have to deal with it now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it is like we're going to try to redeem him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to try to get back with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My best case scenario is Buffy is going to be like,

01:00:00.890 --> 01:00:01.811
[SPEAKER_02]: not going to happen.

01:00:02.191 --> 01:00:04.252
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be with you at all.

01:00:04.972 --> 01:00:11.395
[SPEAKER_02]: What I can do is let you into the Scoobies and that's it.

01:00:11.755 --> 01:00:19.419
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, and that's best case scenario for me because he's not leaving the show like he's in the show.

01:00:19.479 --> 01:00:20.119
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:00:20.579 --> 01:00:21.520
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, he's there.

01:00:22.867 --> 01:00:23.828
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

01:00:24.389 --> 01:00:25.610
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, and is what it is.

01:00:25.991 --> 01:00:27.432
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's that's spike.

01:00:27.973 --> 01:00:28.173
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:00:28.353 --> 01:00:31.917
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the the like we talked about with the puppy stuff.

01:00:32.858 --> 01:00:35.821
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that like he was like toxic.

01:00:35.921 --> 01:00:40.546
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like I had a better time with their hookups until it wasn't a good time.

01:00:42.093 --> 01:00:48.356
[SPEAKER_02]: because I knew that Buffy deserved a good man like Riley.

01:00:48.496 --> 01:00:50.337
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how are we back here?

01:00:50.357 --> 01:00:51.957
[SPEAKER_03]: How are we back here?

01:00:51.977 --> 01:00:54.639
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I have never let it go.

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:55.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

01:00:55.579 --> 01:00:57.220
[SPEAKER_03]: He hadn't gone.

01:00:57.300 --> 01:00:58.020
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't gone.

01:00:58.040 --> 01:00:59.421
[SPEAKER_03]: He came back for one episode.

01:00:59.441 --> 01:01:00.101
[SPEAKER_03]: He was not.

01:01:00.181 --> 01:01:01.201
[SPEAKER_03]: One stupid episode.

01:01:02.502 --> 01:01:04.543
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, let's talk about our character rankings.

01:01:05.323 --> 01:01:09.304
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me remind you of what your character good god of these age.

01:01:09.325 --> 01:01:14.486
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, your character rankings were made way through season six.

01:01:14.646 --> 01:01:16.327
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Sarah's rankings.

01:01:16.927 --> 01:01:18.548
[SPEAKER_03]: Number one, spike.

01:01:19.188 --> 01:01:21.449
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, find my good friend spike.

01:01:21.629 --> 01:01:23.489
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, number two, Zander.

01:01:23.569 --> 01:01:28.811
[SPEAKER_03]: Number three, Willow, then Giles, then Buffy, who was who really had a fall from Grace.

01:01:29.851 --> 01:01:34.753
[SPEAKER_03]: Tara, Dawn, and in last place, I think because of the annoying wedding planning stuff was on you.

01:01:35.353 --> 01:01:37.374
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where you said midway through the season.

01:01:37.554 --> 01:01:40.074
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I want to know, how have things changed for you, Sarah?

01:01:40.115 --> 01:01:41.075
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you got?

01:01:41.335 --> 01:01:42.915
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, what's again?

01:01:42.935 --> 01:01:45.916
[SPEAKER_02]: I have such a hard time, because I don't like any of these motherfuckers.

01:01:46.216 --> 01:01:46.697
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

01:01:48.317 --> 01:01:49.638
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I go from bottom to top?

01:01:49.698 --> 01:01:50.819
[SPEAKER_03]: I go from top to bottom?

01:01:51.019 --> 01:01:51.380
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.863
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, go, go bottom to top.

01:01:54.903 --> 01:01:56.003
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's usually what we do.

01:01:56.464 --> 01:01:57.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:01:57.825 --> 01:02:00.187
[SPEAKER_02]: Spike is at the bottom for obvious reasons.

01:02:00.207 --> 01:02:07.793
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not going to even, I mean, I can't even like defend anything that he did that was kind of entertaining for the majority of the season.

01:02:07.853 --> 01:02:08.093
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

01:02:09.067 --> 01:02:09.828
[SPEAKER_02]: you get punished.

01:02:10.248 --> 01:02:13.330
[SPEAKER_02]: We are, I am, I punish my people guilty.

01:02:13.770 --> 01:02:16.552
[SPEAKER_02]: Your guilty says the stapler, I can't put in there.

01:02:17.393 --> 01:02:21.735
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Zander, but I'm like, I'm not that mad, Zander, but I put in there.

01:02:21.755 --> 01:02:22.536
[SPEAKER_02]: He's guilty too.

01:02:22.656 --> 01:02:23.817
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a bad boy.

01:02:24.017 --> 01:02:24.517
[SPEAKER_02]: guilty.

01:02:24.537 --> 01:02:25.598
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:25.658 --> 01:02:26.619
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, I put Dawn.

01:02:26.739 --> 01:02:29.761
[SPEAKER_02]: And my reasoning is like, they, she got none.

01:02:30.141 --> 01:02:30.841
[SPEAKER_02]: She got nothing.

01:02:31.061 --> 01:02:32.142
[SPEAKER_02]: She, she's useless.

01:02:32.502 --> 01:02:33.223
[SPEAKER_02]: She has nothing.

01:02:38.286 --> 01:02:39.947
[SPEAKER_02]: She barely had any in the season.

01:02:41.207 --> 01:02:43.628
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, I have Tara.

01:02:43.648 --> 01:02:46.949
[SPEAKER_02]: Recently, I have Tara over here.

01:02:46.969 --> 01:02:48.209
[SPEAKER_02]: She had a good season.

01:02:48.350 --> 01:02:49.310
[SPEAKER_02]: She had a good season.

01:02:49.390 --> 01:02:58.913
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that she really drove the opposite of Willow's magic and sentiment of how we should use magic.

01:03:00.934 --> 01:03:02.014
[SPEAKER_02]: Shame that she's gone.

01:03:02.034 --> 01:03:05.135
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that this was the best season that we've had Tara.

01:03:07.716 --> 01:03:10.477
[SPEAKER_02]: season with Tara, so she can flick a little.

01:03:10.597 --> 01:03:11.257
[SPEAKER_02]: She gets a boost.

01:03:11.877 --> 01:03:20.580
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice that I have Willow, and honestly, at least she probably be higher because of how I do my rankings of who do I want to watch?

01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:22.961
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, who entertains me?

01:03:23.201 --> 01:03:24.121
[SPEAKER_02]: She might be second.

01:03:24.321 --> 01:03:24.742
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:03:25.082 --> 01:03:26.262
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Buffy pretty high.

01:03:26.602 --> 01:03:27.743
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she deserves it.

01:03:27.843 --> 01:03:28.783
[SPEAKER_02]: She's gained drop down.

01:03:30.108 --> 01:03:32.491
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we're buffy and then willow is number two.

01:03:32.871 --> 01:03:37.216
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then I have Giles number one, and it's mainly because I miss him, you know?

01:03:37.917 --> 01:03:39.519
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so fair, that's so fair.

01:03:39.879 --> 01:03:42.262
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, Daddy Giles, let me tell you.

01:03:42.923 --> 01:03:46.026
[SPEAKER_03]: My God, anytime he showed up on screen, you know I was so excited.

01:03:46.287 --> 01:03:47.007
[SPEAKER_03]: I love him so much.

01:03:48.520 --> 01:03:50.321
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right, that's fair rankings.

01:03:50.341 --> 01:03:51.002
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair rankings.

01:03:51.062 --> 01:03:53.944
[SPEAKER_03]: As we all know, we do these a little bit differently from one another.

01:03:53.964 --> 01:03:56.686
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, mine are mostly like, do I hate you?

01:03:56.946 --> 01:03:57.967
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you piss me off?

01:03:58.167 --> 01:03:59.388
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you do things that I don't like?

01:04:00.349 --> 01:04:04.972
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I had to take into account the season kind of more than any of them in my opinion.

01:04:05.012 --> 01:04:11.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if they weren't around as much, how do you calculate like how much you enjoyed them?

01:04:11.296 --> 01:04:13.418
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't even mean I kind of just like,

01:04:14.769 --> 01:04:19.892
[SPEAKER_03]: I, if they weren't pissing off, I liked them, then they get higher, no matter if they were around a lot.

01:04:19.992 --> 01:04:31.140
[SPEAKER_03]: So midway through the season, my rankings were terror was number one, then Dawn, then Spike, Buffy, Zander, Giles, Agna, and then Willow, was at the bottom of the barrel pissing me the fuck off.

01:04:32.363 --> 01:04:36.926
[SPEAKER_03]: So, luckily for Willow, other people started pissing me off more than her.

01:04:37.206 --> 01:04:38.867
[SPEAKER_03]: Spike was out the very, very bottom.

01:04:38.887 --> 01:04:42.569
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just try to rape someone in the nanny, but the bottom of my rankings, that's how that works.

01:04:43.390 --> 01:04:50.374
[SPEAKER_03]: Zander is also on my shit list, second from the bottom, leaving onya at the altar, making up excuses about it.

01:04:50.414 --> 01:04:55.517
[SPEAKER_03]: Now wanting to help people you're engaged, I don't give a shit if you save the world at the end of the, end of the finale.

01:04:56.037 --> 01:04:56.878
[SPEAKER_03]: Go fuck yourself, Zander.

01:04:57.678 --> 01:04:58.498
[SPEAKER_03]: Next is Willow.

01:04:58.859 --> 01:05:02.340
[SPEAKER_03]: My god, love a amount of time she wind and cried.

01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.521
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm too powerful of my magic.

01:05:04.601 --> 01:05:05.161
[SPEAKER_03]: Go away.

01:05:05.321 --> 01:05:06.341
[SPEAKER_03]: Go away.

01:05:06.962 --> 01:05:08.342
[SPEAKER_03]: Dark Willow is not on this list.

01:05:08.362 --> 01:05:08.862
[SPEAKER_03]: Dark Willow.

01:05:08.962 --> 01:05:11.603
[SPEAKER_03]: I ended up enjoying as time went on.

01:05:12.084 --> 01:05:14.185
[SPEAKER_03]: Regular ass Willow can get bent.

01:05:14.205 --> 01:05:15.025
[SPEAKER_03]: I did not enjoy her.

01:05:15.085 --> 01:05:16.786
[SPEAKER_03]: She passed me the hell off most of the time.

01:05:16.846 --> 01:05:18.006
[SPEAKER_03]: Fulking with Tara's memory.

01:05:18.666 --> 01:05:19.607
[SPEAKER_03]: So totally fucked.

01:05:19.887 --> 01:05:20.907
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have dumped you three times.

01:05:21.127 --> 01:05:21.868
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was cool.

01:05:22.288 --> 01:05:22.608
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.

01:05:23.288 --> 01:05:27.811
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you have yours's entertainment mine as did you piss me off that piss me off.

01:05:27.991 --> 01:05:28.311
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:28.331 --> 01:05:29.031
[SPEAKER_03]: Bottom of the list.

01:05:29.832 --> 01:05:32.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, then next is my large fucking gap.

01:05:32.413 --> 01:05:32.773
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:05:33.133 --> 01:05:36.455
[SPEAKER_03]: So those three are shitless blacklisted.

01:05:36.555 --> 01:05:37.296
[SPEAKER_03]: You're in trouble.

01:05:37.616 --> 01:05:38.876
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to the principal's office.

01:05:39.657 --> 01:05:40.337
[SPEAKER_03]: Big ol' gap.

01:05:40.497 --> 01:05:41.298
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we have Tara.

01:05:42.617 --> 01:05:44.998
[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't get a chance to do a ton.

01:05:45.038 --> 01:05:48.100
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I liked what I saw from her, then they killed her.

01:05:48.120 --> 01:05:54.844
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like annoyed that she forgave Willow, so easily I really want her to stick it to her more.

01:05:55.184 --> 01:05:57.365
[SPEAKER_03]: She's a staff, she's a staff, whatever.

01:05:57.586 --> 01:05:58.526
[SPEAKER_03]: Water sign.

01:05:58.806 --> 01:06:00.907
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, then we have Anya.

01:06:01.268 --> 01:06:04.750
[SPEAKER_03]: Anya ever deemed herself after pissing me the fuck off with the wedding stuff.

01:06:05.230 --> 01:06:06.531
[SPEAKER_03]: The vengeance stuff was fun.

01:06:06.571 --> 01:06:10.513
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish they went further with it, but I did enjoy her wanting to,

01:06:10.973 --> 01:06:12.754
[SPEAKER_03]: wish harm on Zander so much.

01:06:12.794 --> 01:06:14.394
[SPEAKER_03]: That I got to love joy out of that.

01:06:15.174 --> 01:06:16.355
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I have Daddy Giles.

01:06:17.615 --> 01:06:24.918
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing is, is I would put him like number one because he's Daddy, but also he's like not super around.

01:06:25.398 --> 01:06:27.698
[SPEAKER_03]: So I really waffled with like where the hell does Giles go?

01:06:27.718 --> 01:06:28.199
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

01:06:28.219 --> 01:06:31.220
[SPEAKER_03]: Because like does my basement flood every single time he's on screen?

01:06:31.540 --> 01:06:31.800
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

01:06:33.132 --> 01:06:38.936
[SPEAKER_03]: but also he left Buffy and he's like, you can handle things on your own and like that sucks, you know?

01:06:39.417 --> 01:06:40.598
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just that he wasn't there.

01:06:40.658 --> 01:06:42.659
[SPEAKER_03]: It's his reasoning for not being there was bullshit.

01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:44.901
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's for a forgiles.

01:06:44.941 --> 01:06:46.362
[SPEAKER_03]: So he couldn't have been in the top two.

01:06:47.208 --> 01:06:47.989
[SPEAKER_03]: Number two is Buffy.

01:06:48.109 --> 01:06:50.090
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of don't know how she got here to be honest.

01:06:50.170 --> 01:06:51.451
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it's because I pitted her.

01:06:51.952 --> 01:06:55.634
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I just pitted that she was going through because she didn't have a good season.

01:06:55.715 --> 01:06:59.557
[SPEAKER_03]: Like dumpster sex, Buffy, like for reals.

01:07:00.118 --> 01:07:02.560
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I zipper, that was a lot.

01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:05.262
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because like everybody was more a problem.

01:07:05.782 --> 01:07:06.643
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone had issues.

01:07:07.083 --> 01:07:11.647
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the only reason Dawn is number one is because Gryllipop stole some shit.

01:07:12.227 --> 01:07:34.024
[SPEAKER_03]: good for you girl gets your free shit like she did nothing wrong she at the very end of the finale she's a badass bitch like kicking ass respect thorns at the top of the list like i'm sorry but everyone sucked okay and it's not my fault that dawn ends up at the top of the list it is what it is that's my ranking i love it good job thank you

01:07:36.432 --> 01:07:39.935
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um, villain rankings.

01:07:39.955 --> 01:07:41.817
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is tricky business.

01:07:41.897 --> 01:07:46.041
[SPEAKER_03]: We included both Dark Willow and the loser trio because it felt like we have to.

01:07:46.321 --> 01:07:52.847
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the funny thing is is that I forgot about the loser trio when I, and I didn't include Dark Willow.

01:07:52.867 --> 01:07:54.449
[SPEAKER_03]: Not because I didn't remember her, but because

01:07:55.207 --> 01:08:03.778
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I literally, I ranked Dark Willow and then I was like, oh, wait, they might not be, they're not so what they're saying.

01:08:03.798 --> 01:08:04.539
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about them.

01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:06.422
[SPEAKER_02]: Who be, oopsie doopsies.

01:08:07.764 --> 01:08:09.065
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.

01:08:09.486 --> 01:08:10.587
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.

01:08:10.808 --> 01:08:11.989
[SPEAKER_03]: So, movement.

01:08:12.810 --> 01:08:19.394
[SPEAKER_03]: not a ton, like so obviously Daddy Vance is number one for me and you glory we both have at number two.

01:08:19.774 --> 01:08:23.957
[SPEAKER_03]: Drulu Lou we also both have at number three then our lists start to differ.

01:08:23.977 --> 01:08:28.259
[SPEAKER_03]: I have and jealous angelists whatever you want to say I thought he was fun.

01:08:28.699 --> 01:08:29.580
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I have the mayor.

01:08:30.260 --> 01:08:31.061
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I have dark

01:08:35.443 --> 01:08:58.962
[SPEAKER_03]: if we had gotten her for more of the season right like give her more time to breathe give her more time to ramp up it was too short of a time for me to properly put her higher and I thought the my ranking also I tend to rank people higher if they enjoy being a villain so you'll notice like from the mayor up it's all people who kind of like revel in it um underneath dark well I have spike then the loser trio

01:08:59.723 --> 01:09:01.524
[SPEAKER_03]: then Adam and the anointed one.

01:09:01.564 --> 01:09:09.127
[SPEAKER_03]: The reason the loser trio is above Adam and the anointed one is just because like it is true to life like they really sucked and they were really awful.

01:09:10.307 --> 01:09:17.290
[SPEAKER_03]: Adam didn't have enough development for me personally because of the seasons reasons we talked about and the United just weren't as stupid little anoint child.

01:09:17.710 --> 01:09:19.831
[SPEAKER_03]: So like they beat the worst ones.

01:09:20.431 --> 01:09:21.712
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't move that high up, you know.

01:09:22.092 --> 01:09:24.293
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have um

01:09:26.163 --> 01:09:27.764
[SPEAKER_02]: Dark Willow under the mayor.

01:09:28.904 --> 01:09:31.526
[SPEAKER_02]: So, we're like fifth down fifth.

01:09:31.566 --> 01:09:34.367
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Daddy Vamp's glory drew the Lou Mayer than Dark Willow.

01:09:34.587 --> 01:09:42.011
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Angelus Adam, Spike is always so down here because I still, well, now he's kind of a villain.

01:09:42.031 --> 01:09:42.832
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:09:43.152 --> 01:09:44.913
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been then till now.

01:09:45.413 --> 01:09:51.136
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I had the loser trio as my least be for a second to least favorite over the annoying to when the annoying to point is like

01:09:53.157 --> 01:09:55.599
[SPEAKER_02]: But I did not like the loser trio.

01:09:55.639 --> 01:09:56.780
[SPEAKER_02]: They did not work for me.

01:09:57.260 --> 01:09:58.261
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not enjoy them.

01:09:58.421 --> 01:10:01.844
[SPEAKER_02]: I understand I know it's so ahead of it's time.

01:10:02.024 --> 01:10:04.526
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Love of love of love of love.

01:10:04.866 --> 01:10:05.647
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't care.

01:10:05.807 --> 01:10:06.507
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like them.

01:10:06.768 --> 01:10:07.568
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like them.

01:10:07.648 --> 01:10:14.654
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're all really annoying I think the fact that we had to like give Jonathan a pat on the back for

01:10:15.334 --> 01:10:17.716
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, saving them at the end.

01:10:18.136 --> 01:10:22.099
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never not going to see that actor in stuff that he's in everything.

01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:23.360
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's really hard to do.

01:10:23.661 --> 01:10:27.704
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never not going to see that actor and be like, I fucking hate you and you're annoying me.

01:10:28.905 --> 01:10:33.608
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know for a fact he's going to be back next season, because they love to bring this mother fucker back.

01:10:33.729 --> 01:10:34.669
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't ever forget him.

01:10:35.130 --> 01:10:37.572
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really going to be annoyed when I see him next time.

01:10:38.732 --> 01:10:44.716
[SPEAKER_02]: And when I see him eventually in grandma girls because I've never seen grandma girls before and I'm watching it for the first time I know he's in it.

01:10:44.897 --> 01:10:49.940
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we so annoyed and I know he was in the Boyman's for all and that's annoying, too.

01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:50.680
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like him.

01:10:51.101 --> 01:10:55.624
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like him and I don't like his face on us I really don't very fair

01:10:56.874 --> 01:10:58.134
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk MVP's.

01:10:58.154 --> 01:10:59.735
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the season.

01:11:01.755 --> 01:11:09.737
[SPEAKER_02]: I said initially me for finishing the season, I do think that I am the most valuable player for me.

01:11:09.918 --> 01:11:10.378
[SPEAKER_02]: You mean it?

01:11:10.738 --> 01:11:12.578
[SPEAKER_02]: But in Actuality, I think it's Tara.

01:11:12.938 --> 01:11:17.220
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's because she finally got some good content.

01:11:18.060 --> 01:11:19.120
[SPEAKER_02]: Did some saving.

01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.621
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to honor her for all of she's done.

01:11:26.502 --> 01:11:29.063
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that she did have a really good season.

01:11:29.443 --> 01:11:33.605
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that she deserves the spot.

01:11:33.785 --> 01:11:35.226
[SPEAKER_03]: OK.

01:11:35.246 --> 01:11:38.367
[SPEAKER_03]: But first, I put depression because depression won.

01:11:38.508 --> 01:11:40.328
[SPEAKER_03]: But then I put jiles because he left.

01:11:40.629 --> 01:11:42.529
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was a good decision because this season sucked.

01:11:43.030 --> 01:11:43.230
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:11:43.250 --> 01:11:45.051
[SPEAKER_03]: So I felt like left it a good time.

01:11:45.091 --> 01:11:47.172
[SPEAKER_03]: He did the musical and he was like, OK, bye.

01:11:47.252 --> 01:11:47.592
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm out.

01:11:48.392 --> 01:11:49.172
[SPEAKER_03]: So, good on him.

01:11:50.072 --> 01:11:55.053
[SPEAKER_03]: Plus, anytime he can, it's like, I forget what he says when he walks in the door, but it was so good.

01:11:55.733 --> 01:11:58.894
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like, I have somebody to say about that.

01:11:58.914 --> 01:11:59.994
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sound like that.

01:12:00.474 --> 01:12:01.114
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:12:01.494 --> 01:12:02.955
[SPEAKER_03]: LVP of the season.

01:12:03.275 --> 01:12:06.755
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so happy we both have Spike on our list, because he can eat a bag of dicks.

01:12:07.076 --> 01:12:07.916
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:12:08.016 --> 01:12:08.396
[SPEAKER_02]: Spike.

01:12:08.456 --> 01:12:10.396
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I have the loser trio.

01:12:10.796 --> 01:12:12.597
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's all through them.

01:12:13.097 --> 01:12:14.557
[SPEAKER_02]: Me for watching this season.

01:12:16.710 --> 01:12:18.551
[SPEAKER_03]: I am, for subjecting myself to this.

01:12:18.611 --> 01:12:21.532
[SPEAKER_03]: I am the loser to be.

01:12:22.053 --> 01:12:23.233
[SPEAKER_03]: Least favorite episodes.

01:12:23.333 --> 01:12:27.035
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really glad we can both agree that double meat palace never needs to exist.

01:12:27.475 --> 01:12:28.456
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was really bad.

01:12:28.516 --> 01:12:33.358
[SPEAKER_02]: That was probably the worst episode of by the vampire's sire that I've ever seen.

01:12:33.378 --> 01:12:37.960
[SPEAKER_02]: Be sides the one where they ate the pig.

01:12:38.921 --> 01:12:40.181
[SPEAKER_02]: And oh, that was the Zander one.

01:12:40.661 --> 01:12:41.842
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, didn't that one?

01:12:42.022 --> 01:12:44.623
[SPEAKER_03]: And the drunk one where Buffy was like a cate

01:12:46.396 --> 01:13:10.133
[SPEAKER_02]: That was I didn't eat as much as that one, but yeah, it was it was really bad the issue was that in once again like I blame the break for this I don't remember I remember a lot of things I did not like I don't remember what so they were associated with so seeing red was the one where where the attempted rape happens so that's why that is not my list.

01:13:11.394 --> 01:13:22.201
[SPEAKER_03]: life serial was one where Buffy like goes on like bring your daughter to work day with everyone and it honestly felt very useless to me.

01:13:22.721 --> 01:13:38.412
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when like the trio, the loser trio is like playing pranks on her everywhere she goes basically she goes to like a construction site wasander and then wrecked was the one where Willow goes to see that rack guy and like gets high on magic

01:13:39.833 --> 01:13:43.695
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that I didn't like either, but there's a lot of episodes I didn't like.

01:13:43.715 --> 01:13:45.536
[SPEAKER_03]: This is my just top four of ones I hated.

01:13:45.556 --> 01:13:46.416
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

01:13:46.876 --> 01:13:49.177
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then favorite episode.

01:13:49.197 --> 01:13:53.539
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the musical obviously once more with feeling that one is excellent.

01:13:53.820 --> 01:13:56.301
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that out because it's like, yeah, duh.

01:13:56.681 --> 01:13:57.861
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's a good episode.

01:13:58.162 --> 01:13:59.062
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

01:13:59.482 --> 01:14:07.885
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then we both have a tabula rasa, which is, to tabula rasa, I don't know how to pronounce it, I don't really care.

01:14:08.625 --> 01:14:10.726
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, which like everyone loves, right?

01:14:10.766 --> 01:14:15.688
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the, um, everyone's like minds are fucked by magic.

01:14:16.048 --> 01:14:28.876
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the one where Zander and I'm sorry if where everybody like they didn't know like who they were and then yeah spike and Giles thought that they were like father and son.

01:14:29.376 --> 01:14:30.357
[SPEAKER_02]: That was really funny.

01:14:30.377 --> 01:14:31.518
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was good.

01:14:31.878 --> 01:14:32.638
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, those are good.

01:14:32.979 --> 01:14:33.119
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.

01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:38.342
[SPEAKER_03]: And Giles thought he was married to Anya or something, yeah, that almost fun.

01:14:39.282 --> 01:14:47.327
[SPEAKER_03]: And the other one I had was older and far away, which is the one that Don makes the wish and everyone's like stuck in the house.

01:14:47.967 --> 01:14:50.410
[SPEAKER_03]: did you like that because I wasn't there for that podcast?

01:14:51.311 --> 01:14:52.833
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I liked it because I liked the episode.

01:14:53.073 --> 01:14:53.474
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:14:53.674 --> 01:14:56.177
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't remember that you were it on the podcast.

01:14:56.697 --> 01:15:02.744
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I had Hell's Bells, which is like the wedding episode, but it was, it was entertaining.

01:15:02.884 --> 01:15:05.207
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, why do you hate Ania?

01:15:05.667 --> 01:15:07.128
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

01:15:07.188 --> 01:15:08.129
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

01:15:08.550 --> 01:15:09.991
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was an energy.

01:15:10.051 --> 01:15:11.272
[SPEAKER_02]: I like weddings.

01:15:11.612 --> 01:15:13.394
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the ugly dresses.

01:15:13.814 --> 01:15:16.396
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the so ugly.

01:15:16.476 --> 01:15:17.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, I forgot about them.

01:15:18.378 --> 01:15:19.679
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked this.

01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:21.481
[SPEAKER_02]: It was dramatic.

01:15:21.561 --> 01:15:23.202
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always here for the drama.

01:15:23.222 --> 01:15:27.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course I have as you were because Riley came back.

01:15:28.006 --> 01:15:29.508
[SPEAKER_02]: Such a nothing burger in episode.

01:15:29.568 --> 01:15:31.409
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but it was really good.

01:15:31.429 --> 01:15:32.570
[SPEAKER_03]: No, there were so many

01:15:33.571 --> 01:15:40.393
[SPEAKER_03]: No, in the car silently for an hour and he never once was like, hey, by the way, I'm married.

01:15:40.413 --> 01:15:41.513
[SPEAKER_03]: What's up?

01:15:41.553 --> 01:15:42.173
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.

01:15:42.253 --> 01:15:47.275
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, got to keep a private, like, like, like, obviously, yeah.

01:15:47.415 --> 01:15:50.135
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, like, it was like really dramatic.

01:15:50.175 --> 01:15:53.036
[SPEAKER_02]: I like gasped multiple times.

01:15:53.256 --> 01:15:55.777
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like rooting for his wife by the end of it.

01:15:55.797 --> 01:15:58.157
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I need it.

01:15:58.497 --> 01:15:59.518
[SPEAKER_02]: I needed him back.

01:15:59.598 --> 01:16:00.038
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:16:00.918 --> 01:16:01.858
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

01:16:01.878 --> 01:16:11.541
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's go through the predictions that we had made for this season and see what we were right and wrong about, um, you said that these are your predictions, but he's not dead.

01:16:11.581 --> 01:16:14.901
[SPEAKER_03]: She's probably in purgatory or the medium place and has to fight her way back.

01:16:15.281 --> 01:16:21.843
[SPEAKER_03]: Another idea is that we see slayers of the past all in one place and she gets more insight and how slayers die or their downfalls and gets insight.

01:16:22.183 --> 01:16:25.504
[SPEAKER_03]: They tell her she's different or special and tell her she has to go back and fight.

01:16:26.304 --> 01:16:28.605
[SPEAKER_03]: or going back to the previous idea she can't be killed.

01:16:28.625 --> 01:16:30.206
[SPEAKER_03]: She's something different wherever she is.

01:16:30.466 --> 01:16:31.806
[SPEAKER_03]: Another dimension can kill her.

01:16:32.167 --> 01:16:33.667
[SPEAKER_03]: Back to Sunnydale by episode five.

01:16:34.648 --> 01:16:43.771
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, this is just going to piss me off because I think I cooked with these predictions going like reading forward a little bit and none of this cool stuff happened.

01:16:44.712 --> 01:16:46.752
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I was going to say, what do you mean you got it wrong?

01:16:46.772 --> 01:16:48.813
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, you're going to be fun to see.

01:16:48.933 --> 01:16:49.754
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm

01:16:53.415 --> 01:16:53.875
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

01:16:53.915 --> 01:16:54.776
[SPEAKER_03]: Next, Will is magic.

01:16:54.836 --> 01:16:56.657
[SPEAKER_03]: It's out of control and she gets power hungry.

01:16:56.837 --> 01:16:57.317
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

01:16:57.657 --> 01:16:59.098
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty much been building since season two.

01:16:59.258 --> 01:17:02.460
[SPEAKER_03]: Evil, evil, willow, big bad of season six, kind of sorta.

01:17:03.020 --> 01:17:07.943
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she's partially been possessed for years from a spell gone wrong by an evil entity magical force.

01:17:07.963 --> 01:17:09.544
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why she sucks so much at times.

01:17:09.904 --> 01:17:11.585
[SPEAKER_03]: God, I exercise that out of her.

01:17:13.146 --> 01:17:17.831
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that you wrote exercises and go to the gym, but I'm pretty sure you meant exercise like her demons.

01:17:18.031 --> 01:17:19.113
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

01:17:19.413 --> 01:17:20.054
[SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious.

01:17:20.894 --> 01:17:22.076
[SPEAKER_03]: Tara and Willow break up.

01:17:22.336 --> 01:17:22.816
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

01:17:22.917 --> 01:17:23.197
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:23.757 --> 01:17:28.242
[SPEAKER_03]: Zander and Onyafight over the wedding because Onyaw wants it to be extra and Zander is a poor.

01:17:29.504 --> 01:17:30.385
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's not wrong.

01:17:30.665 --> 01:17:31.166
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.

01:17:31.266 --> 01:17:33.388
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was very focused on the wedding.

01:17:33.769 --> 01:17:33.929
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:34.610 --> 01:17:38.074
[SPEAKER_03]: Does onion die by the end of season for the stakes sake?

01:17:38.554 --> 01:17:44.401
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think these two will be the lightest, the lightness slash comedy relief in an otherwise dark season.

01:17:45.305 --> 01:17:46.666
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, I feel like they joined right in on the dark.

01:17:47.147 --> 01:17:47.327
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

01:17:48.108 --> 01:17:48.408
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:48.548 --> 01:17:50.490
[SPEAKER_03]: Another jiles ripper backstory flashback.

01:17:50.790 --> 01:17:51.791
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, what could have been?

01:17:52.471 --> 01:17:55.634
[SPEAKER_03]: Plus more cool badass ripper stuff in situations like the Ben killing.

01:17:55.654 --> 01:17:57.055
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, remember when he did that?

01:17:57.135 --> 01:17:58.296
[SPEAKER_03]: I fucking doubt so much.

01:17:58.697 --> 01:18:02.480
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's time jiles gets a girly or maybe he develops a drinking issue because of the death of Buffy.

01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.162
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he'll go down a bad path.

01:18:05.102 --> 01:18:06.404
[SPEAKER_03]: He goes on the path to England.

01:18:07.224 --> 01:18:11.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, Dawn devastated over Buffy death blames herself.

01:18:11.125 --> 01:18:14.946
[SPEAKER_03]: I think she'll try to step up as a slayer, but she just wasn't chosen.

01:18:15.306 --> 01:18:20.327
[SPEAKER_03]: She'll lean on spike for big brother, family safety, but was supposed to be taking care of by jiles.

01:18:20.847 --> 01:18:27.709
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, things she might wind up going into the foster care system because she has no mom slash buffies, so this could be a point of drama when Buffy comes back to Sunnydale.

01:18:28.129 --> 01:18:31.350
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not incorrect in that they really try to take her away.

01:18:31.370 --> 01:18:32.650
[SPEAKER_03]: I, um,

01:18:33.794 --> 01:18:35.035
[SPEAKER_03]: huge spike redemption.

01:18:35.295 --> 01:18:35.836
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.

01:18:36.096 --> 01:18:38.758
[SPEAKER_03]: It will be his most endearing season.

01:18:39.098 --> 01:18:42.641
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll be a spuffy simply like the rest of you by the end of the season.

01:18:43.042 --> 01:18:44.523
[SPEAKER_03]: More backstory, please.

01:18:45.864 --> 01:18:46.104
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:18:49.290 --> 01:18:52.372
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is for the people that say that I'm spoiled all the time.

01:18:52.392 --> 01:18:53.233
[SPEAKER_02]: I spoil myself.

01:18:53.273 --> 01:18:54.013
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not spoiled.

01:18:54.073 --> 01:18:58.396
[SPEAKER_02]: I know nothing Willow kills Tara because she's too powerful.

01:18:58.416 --> 01:18:59.397
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was a good idea.

01:18:59.857 --> 01:19:02.939
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, see So many good ideas.

01:19:02.999 --> 01:19:07.322
[SPEAKER_03]: You were you were really you were really cooking with these ideas You that they didn't read your mind in the future.

01:19:07.682 --> 01:19:08.422
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

01:19:08.442 --> 01:19:09.183
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no

01:19:10.092 --> 01:19:12.094
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, here we go, my predictions.

01:19:12.174 --> 01:19:14.998
[SPEAKER_03]: Spuffy is dead, quote unquote for only the premiere.

01:19:15.338 --> 01:19:15.879
[SPEAKER_03]: That is true.

01:19:15.899 --> 01:19:16.619
[SPEAKER_03]: That was right, right?

01:19:16.700 --> 01:19:17.300
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

01:19:17.741 --> 01:19:19.623
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Osmonster, sadly no.

01:19:20.143 --> 01:19:21.385
[SPEAKER_03]: Ferry's finally happened.

01:19:21.505 --> 01:19:22.646
[SPEAKER_03]: We're manifesting.

01:19:22.967 --> 01:19:23.487
[SPEAKER_03]: Still no.

01:19:23.808 --> 01:19:24.709
[SPEAKER_03]: Spiking Buffy Kiss.

01:19:25.349 --> 01:19:25.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Ding ding.

01:19:26.649 --> 01:19:28.450
[SPEAKER_03]: Zander and Ania get married.

01:19:28.530 --> 01:19:30.931
[SPEAKER_03]: Ania pays because she makes bank on stocks.

01:19:30.991 --> 01:19:31.491
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably.

01:19:32.491 --> 01:19:34.372
[SPEAKER_03]: She probably does make bank on stocks, but they don't get married.

01:19:34.772 --> 01:19:37.673
[SPEAKER_03]: No more crossovers between Buffy and Angel because of the different networks.

01:19:38.153 --> 01:19:41.514
[SPEAKER_03]: Faith is the big bad and returns life, if only.

01:19:41.954 --> 01:19:45.395
[SPEAKER_03]: Terran Willow briefly break up due to Willow being an overpowered witch or whatever.

01:19:45.415 --> 01:19:45.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

01:19:46.676 --> 01:19:47.936
[SPEAKER_03]: Don gets her first boyfriend.

01:19:47.956 --> 01:19:49.757
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember when she tried to leave that vampire guy?

01:19:50.922 --> 01:19:54.504
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, not a fun season, a major case of the griffies.

01:19:54.524 --> 01:19:57.406
[SPEAKER_03]: Two, uh, one of the big characters die.

01:19:57.586 --> 01:20:02.669
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was going to be on you, uh, Don wants to die and ask Spike to do it.

01:20:02.729 --> 01:20:03.449
[SPEAKER_03]: That's dark.

01:20:04.270 --> 01:20:05.971
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, someone gets a terrible haircut.

01:20:06.051 --> 01:20:07.191
[SPEAKER_03]: Don, question mark.

01:20:07.271 --> 01:20:08.392
[SPEAKER_03]: We're dealing with, yeah.

01:20:09.233 --> 01:20:11.655
[SPEAKER_03]: Cordelia, I really should have said that.

01:20:12.316 --> 01:20:14.398
[SPEAKER_03]: Harmony shows up and she's a badass.

01:20:14.559 --> 01:20:19.464
[SPEAKER_03]: Another alternate world episode with, after, Oh, with Alter Dawn.

01:20:19.784 --> 01:20:21.586
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when we had like the Vamp Willow.

01:20:22.928 --> 01:20:24.629
[SPEAKER_03]: Zander family backstory episode.

01:20:24.689 --> 01:20:25.390
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the wedding.

01:20:25.430 --> 01:20:26.291
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.

01:20:26.331 --> 01:20:27.012
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll take it.

01:20:27.853 --> 01:20:28.914
[SPEAKER_03]: Fix right Amy.

01:20:29.114 --> 01:20:29.975
[SPEAKER_03]: Yay!

01:20:29.995 --> 01:20:30.075
[SPEAKER_03]: Yay!

01:20:31.417 --> 01:20:38.020
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on really mature as well, Buffy is away and is a witch with the coven and living with jiles.

01:20:38.160 --> 01:20:41.781
[SPEAKER_03]: Jiles equals Ripper and something causes him to lean in on the Ripper-ness.

01:20:42.401 --> 01:20:45.562
[SPEAKER_03]: Buffy returns and more time has passed for them than for her.

01:20:46.303 --> 01:20:47.163
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's true.

01:20:47.303 --> 01:20:47.723
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:20:48.123 --> 01:20:49.764
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you were spoiled this season.

01:20:49.824 --> 01:20:51.745
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you Googling?

01:20:52.726 --> 01:20:53.166
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.

01:20:53.527 --> 01:20:54.248
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.

01:20:54.288 --> 01:20:54.448
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.

01:20:54.468 --> 01:20:54.908
[SPEAKER_02]: You did good.

01:20:54.928 --> 01:20:55.469
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud of you.

01:20:55.489 --> 01:20:55.930
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

01:20:56.190 --> 01:21:00.576
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, some of these were like vague enough to work, but uh, but yeah, um, there you go.

01:21:00.816 --> 01:21:01.337
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

01:21:01.517 --> 01:21:02.639
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I am.

01:21:02.759 --> 01:21:06.023
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you really go all in on stuff and I appreciate that.

01:21:06.263 --> 01:21:06.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:21:06.544 --> 01:21:08.586
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I tell little stories in my head.

01:21:08.767 --> 01:21:09.027
[SPEAKER_02]: So,

01:21:10.006 --> 01:21:12.568
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you ready, put it in season seven.

01:21:12.968 --> 01:21:16.331
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready or yeah, put it in for season seven.

01:21:16.871 --> 01:21:23.697
[SPEAKER_02]: Don and Buffy crime fighting duo don takes over for Buffy at the end of the season so that Buffy can have a quote unquote normal life.

01:21:23.977 --> 01:21:27.019
[SPEAKER_02]: I was very focused on forward thinking this season because it's our last season.

01:21:27.499 --> 01:21:29.141
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'll get back to that.

01:21:29.761 --> 01:21:36.349
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Ania and Zander get back together, Spike tries to get Buffy back after he has a soul again, but Buffy isn't buying it.

01:21:36.369 --> 01:21:40.033
[SPEAKER_02]: She's done with him romantically, but says she could be a scooby or whatever.

01:21:41.054 --> 01:21:45.318
[SPEAKER_02]: Spike decides that he wants to crime fight for good to make up for all the bad he did.

01:21:45.358 --> 01:21:46.800
[SPEAKER_02]: So he goes and he's at with Angel asks,

01:21:47.941 --> 01:21:52.344
[SPEAKER_02]: his advice as an angel's advice about how to reconcile with all the bad that he did.

01:21:52.824 --> 01:21:56.186
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is how he hops over, takes the boat, so he crosses over.

01:21:56.626 --> 01:21:59.968
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to Haines and the dogs to Angel Land.

01:22:01.649 --> 01:22:05.751
[SPEAKER_02]: Another Angel Buffy romance scenes that we can all gag and die.

01:22:06.712 --> 01:22:08.973
[SPEAKER_02]: Giles goes back to England again.

01:22:08.993 --> 01:22:11.454
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, and this is what I said.

01:22:11.474 --> 01:22:11.534
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

01:22:16.622 --> 01:22:18.504
[SPEAKER_02]: leaves us to leave Sunnydale for Don.

01:22:18.765 --> 01:22:19.726
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is my thought.

01:22:20.447 --> 01:22:22.349
[SPEAKER_02]: Buffy's done like I said before.

01:22:22.750 --> 01:22:27.155
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's giving Don Sunnydale to take over in crime fight.

01:22:27.816 --> 01:22:29.678
[SPEAKER_02]: Buffy leaves for Sunnydale.

01:22:30.559 --> 01:22:32.481
[SPEAKER_02]: At least Sunnydale and then goes to England.

01:22:33.022 --> 01:22:38.703
[SPEAKER_02]: with Giles by vampires over there, but at night gets a fashion job or a school of Oxford or something during the day.

01:22:38.863 --> 01:22:41.684
[SPEAKER_02]: Going back to, like, being like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:41.704 --> 01:22:44.484
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, however, I changed my mind later on.

01:22:44.624 --> 01:22:57.146
[SPEAKER_02]: She said, and then I said, Buffy also spends time in England taking over for the watchers as the only slayer that survived, she takes steps to make the slayer real more properly trained and paid and feel appreciated.

01:22:57.206 --> 01:23:00.007
[SPEAKER_02]: Workers, com, baby, it becomes the lead watcher.

01:23:00.347 --> 01:23:10.926
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm all in about Buffy going to England, leaving Sunnydale forever, to have live a normal life, but also to like better for future slayers.

01:23:11.246 --> 01:23:12.769
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe like a player.

01:23:14.551 --> 01:23:16.172
[SPEAKER_02]: like training facility.

01:23:16.453 --> 01:23:17.233
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:23:18.374 --> 01:23:18.615
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:18.935 --> 01:23:20.937
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like I said, leave Sunnydale forever.

01:23:20.977 --> 01:23:22.198
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's done with Sunnydale.

01:23:22.718 --> 01:23:28.663
[SPEAKER_02]: Zander is a perfect angel this season and done a high and does a love growing not to become his father.

01:23:28.723 --> 01:23:30.685
[SPEAKER_02]: He tells Ania he wants to do it right this time.

01:23:30.765 --> 01:23:36.430
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to literally like highlight the line I wanted to do it right this time.

01:23:36.830 --> 01:23:38.112
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're going to get that.

01:23:38.732 --> 01:23:41.696
[SPEAKER_02]: if I'm going to, okay, this is it.

01:23:41.736 --> 01:23:45.099
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, season of our balls around finding a way to close the hell mouth for good.

01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:49.565
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is what my makes fluffy feel comfortable about leaving sunny deal.

01:23:49.645 --> 01:23:50.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, got it.

01:23:50.906 --> 01:23:52.228
[SPEAKER_02]: Giles finally finds love.

01:23:52.248 --> 01:23:54.130
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I write this every single time.

01:23:54.370 --> 01:23:57.211
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're always so hopeful about it finding love.

01:23:57.471 --> 01:24:01.652
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like my version of the lose demon.

01:24:01.932 --> 01:24:03.632
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I always have this.

01:24:03.712 --> 01:24:05.033
[SPEAKER_02]: All I want him to do is find love.

01:24:05.293 --> 01:24:06.273
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'll ever happen.

01:24:06.293 --> 01:24:07.934
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we'll over-dimension season.

01:24:08.254 --> 01:24:09.994
[SPEAKER_02]: She feels awful about how she behaves.

01:24:10.034 --> 01:24:15.616
[SPEAKER_02]: She opens a school for the magic's called the Tower of Foundation of Good Witches or whatever.

01:24:15.996 --> 01:24:19.117
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some sort of rehab for witches that could go down the wrong path.

01:24:19.877 --> 01:24:20.657
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.

01:24:21.017 --> 01:24:21.297
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:24:21.317 --> 01:24:22.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:24:22.538 --> 01:24:22.718
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:24:23.018 --> 01:24:24.219
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my predictions.

01:24:24.559 --> 01:24:25.599
[SPEAKER_02]: Very forward thinking.

01:24:25.940 --> 01:24:26.100
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:24:26.140 --> 01:24:26.620
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

01:24:26.940 --> 01:24:27.140
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:24:27.340 --> 01:24:36.645
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that I thought that much about like the their ending the show in mind, but I have the trio makes it out of the show all live boo boring.

01:24:37.025 --> 01:24:40.067
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably kill off Giles because he's not going to be around to ton.

01:24:40.727 --> 01:24:42.989
[SPEAKER_03]: Don joins the Scoobies as a full member.

01:24:43.169 --> 01:24:44.209
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think Don is going to

01:24:50.243 --> 01:25:09.288
[SPEAKER_03]: This is on my list, they tried to redeem spike, but I still hate him, Buffy probably forgives him, eventually he wants to fight crime, he leaves to go to Angel, Ania and Zander get back together, and I hate it, Willow commits to not doing magic and instead focuses her energy on being a hacker, maybe she even

01:25:09.828 --> 01:25:14.991
[SPEAKER_03]: Takes over some sort of watch or job or maybe Zander gets a watch or job, but I think it's more likely to be Willow.

01:25:15.411 --> 01:25:19.573
[SPEAKER_03]: Willow trains under Giles because being in Sunnydale reminds her too much of Tara.

01:25:19.613 --> 01:25:23.375
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think she kind of ends up leaving Sunnydale at the end of the show, moving to England.

01:25:24.175 --> 01:25:26.857
[SPEAKER_03]: So kind of like yours, but with Willow instead of Buffy.

01:25:27.717 --> 01:25:30.800
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, onya and zander probably do get married and I'm not about it.

01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:32.241
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone gets a pet.

01:25:32.821 --> 01:25:34.883
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's buffy and I feel like it's going to be a dog.

01:25:35.463 --> 01:25:35.863
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

01:25:36.444 --> 01:25:40.787
[SPEAKER_02]: Because a busy cat person don't like let's not kid ourselves come on.

01:25:41.908 --> 01:25:42.849
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's getting a pet dog.

01:25:43.469 --> 01:25:46.752
[SPEAKER_03]: Daddy vamps appears somehow because I want that so much.

01:25:46.772 --> 01:25:47.833
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a flashback.

01:25:48.193 --> 01:25:50.194
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, someone from angel makes an appearance.

01:25:50.935 --> 01:25:51.495
[SPEAKER_03]: baby cordy.

01:25:52.997 --> 01:25:58.460
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, one if one of the main cast gets turned, I think that will be so fun.

01:25:58.480 --> 01:26:00.222
[SPEAKER_03]: Like someone gets turned into a vampire.

01:26:02.223 --> 01:26:04.445
[SPEAKER_03]: Harmony returns just because I think it would be fun.

01:26:04.945 --> 01:26:06.686
[SPEAKER_03]: Faith is the big bad of the season.

01:26:07.807 --> 01:26:08.848
[SPEAKER_03]: Manifesting this for life.

01:26:09.548 --> 01:26:11.189
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone gets pregnant, maybe on ya.

01:26:11.890 --> 01:26:15.693
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a new character I hate, probably a man, because generally I don't like the men.

01:26:16.833 --> 01:26:20.954
[SPEAKER_03]: And Giles returns briefly and rippers it up, which maybe gets is the reason he gets killed.

01:26:21.074 --> 01:26:23.915
[SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe he listen about situation as a result of being a ripper.

01:26:24.435 --> 01:26:24.815
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:26:25.136 --> 01:26:27.076
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are my, those are my theories, those are my guesses.

01:26:27.556 --> 01:26:28.176
[SPEAKER_03]: All righty.

01:26:28.717 --> 01:26:29.837
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's last season.

01:26:29.857 --> 01:26:30.577
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone's getting pregnant.

01:26:30.597 --> 01:26:31.037
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:26:31.217 --> 01:26:31.517
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:26:31.557 --> 01:26:35.819
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that that's something that happens a lot.

01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:37.539
[SPEAKER_02]: Where would you place the season?

01:26:37.579 --> 01:26:39.020
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this last for you, Dead Last?

01:26:39.040 --> 01:26:39.200
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:40.200
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really.

01:26:40.980 --> 01:26:53.327
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's dead last for me because once again, I feel that there was entertaining things that happened so I would probably put it Like second to last over maybe one.

01:26:53.347 --> 01:27:02.012
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I think my because we used to have it what was like five or three to one right I think was what we had

01:27:02.812 --> 01:27:07.073
[SPEAKER_03]: done previously, but like me, it would be like five or three two one six.

01:27:08.233 --> 01:27:14.774
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think there's so many things I actively disliked that even the highs of this season don't make up for them.

01:27:15.154 --> 01:27:18.195
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the highs do make up for it actually.

01:27:18.615 --> 01:27:28.476
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that my worst thing to say is like a season up TV is boring and I was never bored throughout the entire season.

01:27:28.576 --> 01:27:28.977
[SPEAKER_02]: So a

01:27:32.990 --> 01:27:39.842
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I think I would put six over one, um, I feel pretty good about that.

01:27:40.441 --> 01:27:40.781
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

01:27:41.021 --> 01:27:46.225
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's our season six break down as per huge.

01:27:46.465 --> 01:27:47.266
[SPEAKER_03]: We take a week off.

01:27:47.326 --> 01:27:48.067
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we come back.

01:27:48.207 --> 01:27:49.688
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we talk about season seven.

01:27:49.708 --> 01:27:50.669
[SPEAKER_03]: We start season seven.

01:27:51.009 --> 01:27:52.290
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't love a premiere.

01:27:52.390 --> 01:27:54.551
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see all their hair cuts.

01:27:54.772 --> 01:27:59.615
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't like the buffet premieres, but I always have hope that they're going to be good.

01:27:59.635 --> 01:28:05.560
[SPEAKER_03]: And I always and like excited to see everyone again, because I'm like, who got a haircut, who has a glow up, who looks like shit.

01:28:06.280 --> 01:28:07.900
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I'm excited.

01:28:07.980 --> 01:28:10.261
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to start season 7.

01:28:10.801 --> 01:28:17.643
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard people say like people tend to like season 7 better than season 6, or at least it's not as like polarizing controversial.

01:28:18.063 --> 01:28:21.764
[SPEAKER_03]: So that gives me hope that our final season will be a good one.

01:28:22.284 --> 01:28:22.644
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:28:22.664 --> 01:28:25.104
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see, but that's in two weeks time.

01:28:25.164 --> 01:28:31.106
[SPEAKER_03]: So we hope you enjoy this conversation about season 6 and understand where we're

01:28:36.387 --> 01:28:40.391
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm looking forward to washing the premier as well.

01:28:40.771 --> 01:28:49.519
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet it's going to start off with like an action scene with like Dawn and Buffy fighting together.

01:28:49.679 --> 01:28:51.941
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I hope she gets her a little leather outfit.

01:28:52.421 --> 01:28:53.402
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so cute.

01:28:53.482 --> 01:29:13.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I've been watching Michelle Shackenberg at this like this like this show that like this kind of unknown it's not it's like not a very popular show was from like the early 2000s it's called six feet under so I've been seeing a new it I've been you are a lot on that show you have a member who is she on that show

01:29:14.237 --> 01:29:20.560
[SPEAKER_02]: She plays a singer slash actor that Keith is like babysitting half the time.

01:29:22.040 --> 01:29:22.761
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

01:29:22.821 --> 01:29:24.781
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that you said that I do, I do remember.

01:29:24.801 --> 01:29:26.662
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the character is in the list.

01:29:27.142 --> 01:29:28.923
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm surprised that you've seen that show.

01:29:28.963 --> 01:29:33.125
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really, people don't really know about it, but you, I guess you know.

01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:35.601
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, yeah.

01:29:35.661 --> 01:29:38.443
[SPEAKER_03]: Adam and I started watching this other like unknown show too.

01:29:38.483 --> 01:29:39.643
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't, what are you gonna say?

01:29:39.824 --> 01:29:40.224
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?

01:29:40.944 --> 01:29:42.766
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about, maybe you can guess.

01:29:42.826 --> 01:29:44.087
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's about this guy.

01:29:45.027 --> 01:29:49.190
[SPEAKER_02]: When the guy is from six feet under, and he plays like kind of a worker, a murderer.

01:29:49.210 --> 01:29:50.051
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, actually.

01:29:50.431 --> 01:29:51.612
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:29:51.672 --> 01:29:52.312
[SPEAKER_02]: We just started that.

01:29:52.332 --> 01:29:55.975
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, when Dexter hits, it hits.

01:29:56.195 --> 01:29:57.396
[SPEAKER_03]: So, have you ever seen it?

01:29:57.936 --> 01:29:58.196
[SPEAKER_03]: No.

01:29:58.817 --> 01:29:59.237
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

01:29:59.497 --> 01:30:01.038
[SPEAKER_03]: There's one particular season.

01:30:01.058 --> 01:30:05.161
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember which number it is, but it is like 10 to 10.

01:30:05.221 --> 01:30:05.762
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so good.

01:30:05.822 --> 01:30:08.484
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you'd like end up liking Dexter, the ending is awful.

01:30:08.864 --> 01:30:12.687
[SPEAKER_03]: But there was a new, well, what was the new Dexter's show?

01:30:12.927 --> 01:30:14.368
[SPEAKER_03]: What was the new Resurrection?

01:30:15.088 --> 01:30:15.729
[SPEAKER_03]: Resurrection.

01:30:15.769 --> 01:30:16.690
[SPEAKER_03]: Dexter Resurrection.

01:30:17.850 --> 01:30:18.331
[SPEAKER_03]: So good.

01:30:18.411 --> 01:30:19.352
[SPEAKER_03]: Classic Dexter.

01:30:19.892 --> 01:30:20.212
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.

01:30:20.232 --> 01:30:20.352
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:30:20.392 --> 01:30:23.354
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never, I've never, I've never, we neither have

01:30:27.057 --> 01:30:32.639
[SPEAKER_02]: I did hear the six feet under season for now or series finale is like the best one of the best.

01:30:32.699 --> 01:30:32.879
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:36.480
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very very well regarded and I really loved it too.

01:30:36.561 --> 01:30:37.501
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's actually excellent.

01:30:37.761 --> 01:30:38.761
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised that you've seen it.

01:30:38.801 --> 01:30:39.782
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really unknown.

01:30:40.862 --> 01:30:43.003
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely wasn't on, you know, prestige.

01:30:44.213 --> 01:30:48.596
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, my favorite thing is to watch prestige television like 20 years later.

01:30:48.936 --> 01:30:50.458
[SPEAKER_02]: You really do love doing that.

01:30:50.638 --> 01:30:51.719
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

01:30:51.859 --> 01:30:54.301
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, then everybody else is watched.

01:30:54.361 --> 01:30:55.242
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe it.

01:30:55.562 --> 01:30:56.022
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

01:30:56.062 --> 01:31:00.806
[SPEAKER_03]: You've spent your time watching prestige television while I've been binging summer house.

01:31:01.147 --> 01:31:02.167
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, trash.

01:31:02.608 --> 01:31:03.128
[SPEAKER_03]: I am.

01:31:03.308 --> 01:31:05.470
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never said I'm anything else.

01:31:05.630 --> 01:31:06.671
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did.

01:31:06.711 --> 01:31:08.793
[SPEAKER_03]: And now I've up to date on the drama.

01:31:09.153 --> 01:31:09.654
[SPEAKER_03]: Mubby.

01:31:10.334 --> 01:31:14.620
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did watch the Amazon Prime Show L.

01:31:17.017 --> 01:31:21.922
[SPEAKER_02]: yellowie, which is the legally blonde show.

01:31:21.942 --> 01:31:22.543
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a good.

01:31:23.083 --> 01:31:23.724
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cute.

01:31:23.764 --> 01:31:25.005
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like all I have to say.

01:31:25.025 --> 01:31:26.286
[SPEAKER_02]: It's honestly good.

01:31:26.346 --> 01:31:26.867
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cute.

01:31:27.067 --> 01:31:29.750
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I'm rushing to watch it, but it's cute.

01:31:30.110 --> 01:31:30.430
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:31:30.670 --> 01:31:35.836
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, um, I might pick back up on Vanderpum rules because I've seen a bunch of it, but I never finished it.

01:31:35.856 --> 01:31:37.677
[SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't watch when skinned of all this happening.

01:31:37.717 --> 01:31:40.180
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, well, I kind of want to go watch when skinned of all happens.

01:31:41.001 --> 01:31:42.102
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but that's my life.

01:31:42.202 --> 01:31:45.144
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm watching trash TV over here.

01:31:45.845 --> 01:31:50.990
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, anyway, we'll be back in two weeks time with Buffy Season 7.

01:31:51.130 --> 01:31:54.553
[SPEAKER_03]: So until then everyone here ends the lesson.