Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 6 Episode 3 - Afterlife

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[SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before It's just behind never ending windows All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_08]: I need a partner for the ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_08]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 There's a need to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_08]: Shit 90's shows taught me.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Shit 90's shows taught me was not filmed before live studio audience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you ready to slay another day?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So are we.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back to Shit 90's Show's taught me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just darling here with my co-host.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sarah, I'm free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sarah, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jess, I'm doing really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I feel like I...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't know, I liked this episode, so I'm like excited to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know, I'm kind of like in the weird mood because I watched three episodes of Angel today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think like I lost my sanity a little and anything compared to three episodes of Angel is a really good experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very excited to talk about Buffy mainly because it's not Angel.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, we're talking about season six episode three after life and we're not alone today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As I suspected with a spuffy heavy episode, we're joined by the one the only TV Lindy Lindy how are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing so great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy to be here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's been like 147 days since I was on the podcast 148 today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Only today doesn't count.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does it come on here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't count.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish that you did do the math and see like when the last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I shouldn't check that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's like almost half a year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was probably here before that because I was I can see them five episodes or team or last year in November of last year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's not that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you just say a hundred and how many days Lindy 47?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 147 days is a half of a year almost not quite.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's 365 is a full year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ma'am, it's like four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's almost six months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not really enough, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not really, but you're close enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you're rounding to the nearest spot, I'm rounding us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, rounding up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're here to talk about afterlife, a lot of spuffy content, a lot of sad stuff, a lot of answering questions, Sarah, that we had last podcast, which we were, I think, you know, we're a little grumbly about some information that was lacking that now we mostly have gotten answered, although we, I think we both were kind of our expecting this episode to maybe flashback a little bit, which we

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, we're never going to get the the snacks we desire, you know, like we we're asking for regular Doritos and we are getting cool ranch Doritos, there's still Doritos, I will never ask for regular Doritos, I always ask for cool ranch, I know I do remember that you like cool ranch Doritos because they're the only good type of Doritos, no, I don't think so I think that cool ranch Doritos are nasty.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is not right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't win because I haven't had them recently enough to say, but I feel like they're all good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All the dirt like acceptable, but I think like on the spectrum of...

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you're in the mood for a Dorito, any will do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say the thing, the analogy was that I was looking for something and I got something kind of like it, but it's not quite what I wanted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll dive in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we might as well start with like, yeah, Buffy is back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got some very cute Buffy Dawn content.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When the I really liked getting to see kind of a role reversal of Dawn being like the mother hen, Dawn being the one trying to take care of Buffy, clean her up, wipe the dirt off of her, clean her freaking cave woman

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[SPEAKER_04]: think God that wig is gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They fix the hair immediately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I loved John in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was such a sweetheart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I loved how we saw her being like so gentle with Buffy like showing her around the house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean part of it is like, you know, she doesn't want to spook her because Buffy's obviously troubled right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just I just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that, I think that these two do such a good job portraying a sisterly relationship especially from season five to now and how it's evolved in a lot of the times that happens when a, like, you kind of catch up an age a little bit in terms of like, dawns like growing up

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's less of a little sister mentality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously she had a lot growing up to do in a short amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I feel like Michelle Trackenberg

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[SPEAKER_00]: like grew four inches over the hiatus because now she looks like she's like towering over Sarah Michelle Geller, which I found really funny because my sister is like, I don't know what age she surpassed me in height, but my sister is like five foot nine maybe and a half or

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[SPEAKER_00]: grew to like tower over me, but it happens sooner than I cared to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was, that was, that's a little tip it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's really, it is really cute.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Buffy is still very out of it for like the vast majority of this episode, I would say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Willow or excuse me, Dawn is kind of showing her around, showing her what's different, what they've changed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because this is the first time to say that we find out how much time has passed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we find out that has been 147 days since Buffy died.

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[SPEAKER_04]: between six to seven months exactly that she has been gone and so they have obviously needs and changes willow and Tara live there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're sleeping in Joyce's old room and the Scoobies immediately are like flooding back to the house because they're like oh my god what's going on with Buffy like was it really her like she doesn't seem like herself they're like

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[SPEAKER_04]: overwhelming her and I was when the I was very happy to have Dawn there as a person to be like you all need to step back like you need to chill because it's too much for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, puppies, friends, don't come off the greatest in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a very rough look for the group, especially Willow, but honestly, the group of them, very tactless, which is normally something you can expect from Ania and she's doing that, but they all are, and they're rushing in there, overwhelming talking over each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: constantly telling Buffy, you know, you learn hell and now you're back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you learn hell and you went to hell, but hey, now you're back and just over and over and over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just too much for her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I really, I really hated Willow saying, Buffy, be happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got you out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We really did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the equivalent of like a man on the train telling you to smile.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like a bunch of don't tell me how to feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty, if you were just smile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I kind of understand because I'm an emotional smother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I see somebody is upset or like something's wrong, it's really, really hard for me to not be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: smothering them, like, what can I do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can I, you know, like, is there something that can do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have such a hard time just like giving the space, but seeing

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[SPEAKER_00]: the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the worst part of it for me was that Buffy was about to open up to spike about her experience in that moment or at least give a little bit more information than she ultimately was Karen Doe are going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they interrupted it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for somebody like me or you just who's like starving for information about where she was at and what her experience was like having all the Scooby's rush in and cause this chaos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so annoyed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, go away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even Tara, who is like so emotionally intelligent, I feel like was doing a little bit of smuggling in this moment as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And once again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Frickens Spike was like realized that they are responsible for this and they left him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They like, it sounded like all summer, he has been part of the crew, but once again as a glorified babysitter and not part of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: as the group.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know we talked about this last podcast there of like does Dawn know was Dawn involved.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we confirmation this episode.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She had no idea this was going on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She had no idea this was something they were working on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Spike is also left out and we get a really interesting confrontation between Spike and Sander where

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[SPEAKER_04]: In my opinion, Spike is really the only one who fully understands the possible repercussions of bringing Buffy back, having been to some other held dimensions, knowing that there was a possibility that because she came back with magic, that she'd come back, quote unquote, wrong, and that there was a possibility that if she came back super wrong, Willow would have to

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[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously it's left a little ambiguous or when Zander talks to Tara later in the episode, he's like, did Willow know that like this demon was a potential thing to like follow her out like what how much did Willow know?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's a really interesting thing for us to track this season because I feel like Willow is leaving

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[SPEAKER_04]: The group out of things, more and more, and it is very concerning.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She doesn't tell them she had to kill Bambi, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, I went and just got some deer blood.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I sourced it, didn't have to do the killing myself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like maybe she possibly knew that like there was a chance that Buffy coming back wasn't going to end well and she did it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And like, I don't know, Lindi, I feel like Spike is totally with, I think Spike is right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I think when he's confronting Xander, he's saying like, there's consequences to what you did and like you haven't thought enough about them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's very hard to imagine that Willow did not think that there could be something going wrong when bringing Buffy back and like the most obvious proof of that is that they did not tell Spike Dawn or Giles about this plan like you would think if it was like okay like we have to do this this is the right thing to do like it's going to be great like they would include.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the whole group in the plan because it would be like a positive thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they knew that like this might not work or I'm just imagining that there's no way they don't know that something could go wrong and that Buffy could quote unquote like some come back wrong or something and spike wouldn't let them like destroy her is what he says in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, and, and also, Willow is talking about how, you know, what if, you know, what if Buffy never gets over, you know, the years of torture and the hell dimension.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, yeah, maybe you should have sat down and thought, is this the right thing to do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Willow definitely just did this without

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[SPEAKER_02]: really thinking about the consequences.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that she knows about them and just doesn't care because above all what she wants to do is bring Buffy back, both to have Buffy but also because it's such a powerful thing for her to do and like for her to accomplish that is so great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the consequences she was just willing to accept whatever they were.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a really good point about like this being a test of how good of a witch she is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, Sarah, this feels like I got to create this to like you don't like you do something that you know is bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you like don't tell one of your friends about it because you know they'll judge you like you know if you say, hey, give me your advice on this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to tell you something that you don't want to hear.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So like, you just do it, that's why she didn't tell Giles or, I mean, Spike, you can like make an argument for like not telling Spike no matter what, but someone like, and you can even do the same for Don, right, like we don't want to get her hopes up blah, blah, blah, blah, but there's really no argument to not talk to Giles about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that to me is like the smoking con of like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: You really just wanted to do this thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't think too much about the repercussions of, okay, if she did come back from a hell, dimension like, are you, are you helping or hurting?

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[SPEAKER_04]: All of you, not just Buffy, obviously mostly Buffy, but like, what if she comes back broken?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And like, obviously she's pretty broken when she gets back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's something that we've been talking about for the last season or so where she doesn't respect the earthly balances of, um, of magic and the give and the take and I like how the episode gets into that a little bit later on where we discover that there is a cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to the magic that you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's never really thought ahead about the consequences of the magic that she does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a reoccurring problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not since last season since before as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So season four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a pattern that we've been detecting for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, truly I don't trust the bitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has the best read on situations throughout the entire series because mainly because he has like a good outside slash inside perspective, it reminds me about when he totally and he somehow has a very good read on willow all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it reminds me of when like the when willow started developing feelings for Tara and women and Spike was the only one that was able to see clearly so and I once again I do think it's partially because he has like a healthy distance from the scoobies because they shot him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of like our third party perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of veer towards like whatever spike is saying, somehow seems to be pretty accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just the vibes throughout the episode, even when like Zander is the one that's questioning Willow's intentions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just becoming more and more evident that this is going to be a theme of the season

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willow is dangerous and it's foreshadowed by kind of like that conversation between her and Tara last year, last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I said I don't trust her at all and it's only going to get worse and she's going to continue to not ask permission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's it's even like, yes, like not telling jiles, but she's not even being honest with Tara and that's like another smoking gun like the person that you're closest to like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: sleep in the same bed with essentially is like you're not being honest with her as well and she hasn't been for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested in seeing what kind of like chaos havoc she'll get into this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm going to I think like it's going to be one of those things where I'm going to just have to be along for the ride because me saying over and over and over again

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[SPEAKER_00]: bad willow like how dare you like not like ask permission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to get old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I'm going to have to lean in the opposite way and be like like, hey, I was rain and like really willow on for being a horrible, horrible, horrible being in this universe and be like, okay, let's just go then if we're if we're going here, let's go full tilt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's like yeah,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Can I make a weird, probably insane season seven prediction?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I hear you say one thing of fucking ooze, I'm going to murder you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm seeing you in person this weekend, so I don't even want you to say the word ooze, but go on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to, it's not ooze related, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think...

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[SPEAKER_04]: again, I have no idea what is going to happen, but there's an argument to be made.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like there is a story arc, there is a character arc, we could see happen that has been set up where Willow becomes evil by the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like she

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have been told time and time and time again how powerful she is, how she cuts corners when it comes to magic, she does things and thinks about them later and they're very emotionally driven.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if she wants something, she doesn't think logically about it, she resorts to magic and whatever the easiest, quickest way to get that done is that's the route she takes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I could see her becoming

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[SPEAKER_04]: Two powerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we we've set this up with Oz and his concerns with her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've set this up with Tara and her concerns about Willow's magic and now we have this where like she's obviously not telling the Scooby's all of the information and

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[SPEAKER_04]: It really gave me the egg and I'm not trying to pile on Willow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really not like I wanted to come into this season and like Willow more than we did last season, but I it gave me the biggest fucking egg when she was like, oh well, don't you think she'd be happy that we brought her out?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You'd think she'd say thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, are you fucking okay, you know, I know and the thing, this is such a lesson that you learn in your 20s and maybe beyond, but if you're doing something for the gratitude and for the thank you that you're not doing something for the right reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a fucking bachelor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do it for the right reason for the right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I learned this lesson as a Brides made in my early 20s and I did something I expected this big thank you This big hug didn't get it was shattered like what the fuck and then and she's like, well, I was doing it

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the props.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing it for the thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing it for the big hug and like thank you for doing this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I so appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't doing it for the very reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to focus more so on the bright.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very convoluted situation, but right, Linda, like if you're doing something and you're expecting a thank you,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe you can still be doing it for good reasons, but like I agree, you should not be doing it just for the thank you because if you don't get it, then you're going to be resentful and upset and that's not good for anyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yes, like, you know, being generous should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: be for its own sake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in this case, it's so funny that Willow is like puffy's back from hell, but where are her manners?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Why didn't she say play?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, her way out of a coffin you fucking psycho, like it is very, I was so...

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[SPEAKER_04]: annoyed at Willow and I didn't want to be like I actively didn't want to be mad at her, but I can't help it like it just feels like she what she did was so fucking short sighted like on one hand if you think you're saving her from a hell dimension

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[SPEAKER_04]: You, yeah, you think you're doing something kind, but you're fucking with big magic, like Tara told us last fucking season that life and death shit is serious magic shit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't fuck around with it and will those fucking around with it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just and like I feel like.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We all, we got a really lovely scene with Michelle Trakdenberg as Dawn with the, you can't take her back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can't just give her to me and then take her back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not fair.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like she's really having a very, you know, heavy reaction to something could be wrong, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a demon that was generated with Buffy coming back to life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And like it's like, yeah, well, like, you, this is why you don't just fucking bring Buffy back from the dead, because there are people who, including Buffy were very much affected by this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It just, oh, I don't want to be mad at Willow, but like she makes me so fucking mad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you're allowed to be mad at Willow and this is the second time that she is really just played with the whole life and death thing like when Joyce died, uh, she left that book out for Don to find of that magic of like bringing people back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like for given it for that, that was very irresponsible and this was similar of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: again playing with dawns emotions like the whole joy sting that was traumatic for dawn and yes imagine if they bring buffy back now and then they have to like destroy whatever came back because it wasn't right like that's going to destroy dawn so yes the consequences were really not thought of enough but luckily I mean buffy's pretty normal given the circumstances

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's haunted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's haunted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, she's dead in the eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We all know what what I meant was like, she's still buffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, she's not like, It's so kick out of demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, she's not a demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm a zombie.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a bit fire like Dawn does later in the episode, which is what it's eating.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Which goes back, a demon gets created, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a gift with purchase.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a gift with purchase, which was a very great life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a gift with purchase, which was a very great life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On your love, I mean, I want to know what university of Phoenix school business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's got out of my degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I want to know how she learned all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it the interwebs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it did Willow give her the key to the internet.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And she hadn't into the university of Phoenix, and got herself a degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but like she's so smart about this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find like physically in particular, which is so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of love it, but money is her hobby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Money is her passion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: look, I love money too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just have such a weird relationship with it where I can barely keep it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My thank god for my husband or else I'll be like on the streets with like my 100 pair of sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I love Ania for her talents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this little, this little demon that like first is kind of just like a go for under a rug.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He just like zooms on very much similar to whatever was crawling under Willow's skin when she brought Buffy back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, um, but it was like creepy, but here's the thing it first shows up as Buffy haunting Willow and Tara while they sleep and I don't I wrote down what Buffy the ghost or whatever the fuck said because I don't know if it's important.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But she says, what did you do?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what you did?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're like children.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your hands smell of death.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Bitches, filthy little bitches rattling the bones.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you cut the throat?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you pat its head?

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[SPEAKER_04]: The fuck!

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am, I really liked the world that I lived in for three seconds where Buffy came back, like possessed in my mind, and that this was going to be a regular occurrence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that that was going to be like a really fun thing, but we kind of like uno reversed it, and it was just like an apparition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I mean, she threw glass at them also also does anybody else get like the egg the egg that they're like living there the willow and Tara are living in Joyce's bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I felt very sleep on the fucking couch like I just like just don't take buffy's bedroom like very much.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't take buffy's bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Think it's a nice period.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so what do you do think that like Dawn should have taken like Joyce's bedroom and like maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay, I am not really getting the egg here and I can see where you're coming from, but like in their perspective, like Dawn is still a teenage girl and needs people around her, like Joyce and Buffy have died and, you know, they know Joyce is not coming back from the dead and so Willow and Tara sleeping in her room makes more sense than sleeping in Buffy's room and I don't think

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, makes sense for dawn to change rooms because like her room is probably a comfort to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all decorated, you know, and she's quote unquote, been living their her whole life except I mean, she was just created recently, but whatever she thinks she's been living there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of makes sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like a perfect situation, but like they are looking after dawn and they have been for for plus months approximately there's two of them and it's the biggest bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand logistically why it would make sense, but also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I don't know, just to see, I'm, I'm going to like make an assumption it's not the same exact bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say that they like donated the bed to the salvation army and they brought in their own furniture, but like also, I just had a realization, a revelation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck happened to Miss Katie?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's your face?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic, huh?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they tell us as she there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They re-home, Miss Kitty, fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, they did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be honest, I don't know where Miss Kitty fantastic goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen her in a while.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't with these fuckers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: First, we bring people back from the dead.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we just re-home our pets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't re-home the bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't re-might.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what the possessed Buffy was yelling about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the guy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think like yeah, it's been, it's been like almost six months, like, but still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, okay, hold up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about Ray Amy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see Ray Amy in the room?

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[SPEAKER_04]: If, as a result of this show getting fucking moved off the WWE, you don't get a conclusion to the rat Amy storyline.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you think out throw a hissy fit over dumb shit, that will be the biggest fucking hissy fit I've ever thrown in my goddamn life about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what these dummies are like, we got to move out of this dorm room ASAP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just like bring like a couple belongings, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy's still in the dorm room with Ms. Kitty bent us to come out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What did they call out?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did they call exist also?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like a cat and a rat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't feel like something that should live together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like a rat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is a human, so she probably, but the cat is it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: That cat's going to want to nom nom nom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You bid just because it's just like that's like seeing cats and dogs can't live together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do we live in loony tunes like it's not it's like such a stereotype.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There is a thing of like you're not supposed to have specific pets together because one is like a predator of the other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so which which do you think they should keep the cat or the rat?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have to do so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want a whole thing about Don't be home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm just pissed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm pissed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I was going to keep an eye out like maybe one of them was like in the corner of the room in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't see any, but that's how big enough fucking house we could have Miss Kitty fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Go have some domain and then rat Amy has another section of the house probably there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is devastating.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no button up wanted posters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not wanted posters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What is yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, missing of missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what they could use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nest camera.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is a sponsor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you heard like the latest controversy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, how the fucking people can look in on the AI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what they had it, then they'll know where to find the animals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find Rauini and miss out on the contest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All things to AI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just to go back to what you had asked a while ago about what Buffy was saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of your importantly, what about writing me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those were very important questions, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But to wrap it back around, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, probably other people have like way smarter answers to this, but my assumption is that like she's talking about like the deer that that will okay, like the blood on your hands, like that's a throw to pat the head, like the blood is dripping from you because like willow killed this innocent creature in order to do this spell to bring Buffy back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because the other like possessions that we see is like onus like cutting herself with a knife and don like literally fucking spits fire like a badass.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want that again, please.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And Zander is like, haha, you mother fuckers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know where to go now, you know, typical stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the good news is we find out through some research.

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[SPEAKER_04]: even though Willow should have fucking done the research before she upsets Dawn just saying that this demon is temporary.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It will die off on its own as long as it doesn't get to kill Buffy first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not even a hedge hiker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something totally different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to get into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before that, I want to ask you just because I have a very sharing opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did Willow call Giles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because in my, we didn't see it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, we're eight no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That bitch called Giles.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: We know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that we are like meta gaming, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like jails is not on this look, I sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Giles, IRL is often the great land of Britain, drinking his tea with his family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we know when she's like, jails is hopping on a plane, he's coming, all right man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's not, he's not though.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So did she call Giles?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to all disagree.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll say, yeah, I think she did call him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to get word of like a reason why he doesn't come back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to get like off camera, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not going to be back for XYZ.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think she called him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she's such a creep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't trust her at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there's no way that she told Giles because like in character stepping aside from like the meta,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony Stewart had wanted to spend time with his family in England, but the character of of Giles would never, ever, ever, not turn right back around in that moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he would have been back

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[SPEAKER_00]: like with a snap of the finger, he wouldn't have even left the airport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no way that she told Giles that she applied and nobody else can corroborate the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think her like end game would be of like not telling Giles about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she doesn't want to be stopped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think that she doesn't want to be told.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, babysat or father, like, she doesn't want to be told that she can or cannot do something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She likes being the leader, like, she likes being able to do what she wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giles would lecture her and Giles would be back and then she wouldn't be able to do the stuff that she wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like I think that she just doesn't want to be reprimanded about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she made her decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She accomplished the spell and she's on her victory run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to hear from anybody how irresponsible it was or was not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Especially, I could see an argument for what you're saying, Sarah, if she's like, I want to make sure Buffy is okay and that this is permanent before I tell Giles.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_04]: She wants to dot her eyes across her T's before she loops in Giles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the details that she told Tara in the conversation, and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things where she's like, you, she added too many details.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, like when your time is good, why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, or when you're trying to lie, typically one of the, like, red flags is that, like, you add extra details.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was talking about, like, oh, I can, like, hear him taking off his glasses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was, like, a lot of, like, oh, boys or whatever, she said, whatever he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, like, I just felt like it was a lot of details.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just like, I'm sniffing it, I'm just sniffing it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't trust her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I mean, I guess I can just sniff it out, sniffing out that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it or her cheese stinks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, whatever, I don't know,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I need to do a slight zigzag here, or slightly swirving, because I can't not ask a question about the way on your wake sub-sander, or tries to, I guess, before the phone rings.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sarah, have you ever been guilty of this of doing the like, okay, I'm gonna say something, and then like touching the cheek, like, honey, are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you awake?

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, because once again, this is like a story from like yesterday year, but in college, I like I had my roommate and she was like my best friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were like really close and I something happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what, but I was so excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I woke her up to tell her and she was so mad at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And suddenly it's just, and ever since then, I've been like, I don't fuck what people sleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to respect people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, I got so scarred by it because she was so mad at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that I would react that way if you woke me up to tell me something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I would like tell me everything, but she was so mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that I wake people up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely am like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's been times where like, you know, in the mornings, I wake up before my partner and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, look at little like, are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want to chat with you, but also he hates talking the morning so bad that like, yeah, I have to wait like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three to five business hours in order for me to start a conversation with him, or else he's in a bitch-ass mood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't people just be nice in the morning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a no-day, don't you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the Tally Tubby Sun, where the Sun is happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just be happy, in Tally Tubby Sun is an abomination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay, I'm sure you respect people's sleep, but also, I don't even know if you're, are do you consider yourself a morning person?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm a mid-morning person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say not early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I came up to you in the mornings or if I woke you up, would you yell at me like that would not yell at you because I I try to really a nice person and you're a little bit scared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I asked you about Thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of go to me and so I was different, um, that was a different scenario.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you were trying to out me as a loser with no plans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was like, I really didn't know I was like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, if you woke me up in the morning, I would be like, why are you at my place?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'd be excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like, hey, let's hang out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've definitely done the on you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've definitely done that in my life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if I have like a really, really bad nightmare, I'm definitely guilty of this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then like push push a couple more times.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then the jostle?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a crazy nightmare last night or dream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was some cultish behavior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People were cutting off their fingers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I told you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is pregnancy dreams, you know, it's horrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is what dreams are made of, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so yeah, so Ania is on icon, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So basically, the Scoobies suck this whole episode because they need Buffy to be happy and they constantly are like, are you okay?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you okay?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you okay?

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[SPEAKER_04]: to the point where she knows she can't possibly actually tell them the truth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so she says, you know, you brought me back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was in hell.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't think too much about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, but it felt like the world abandoned me there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then suddenly you guys did what you did.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, she says, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You gave me the world.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't tell you how much it means to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I should have said it before.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And was like, yeah, that you're about, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is so hard to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's just devastating how Buffy has to put on this performance because she knows they are waiting for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the worst part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's so obvious that Willow just wants Buffy to thank her profusely for bringing her back from hell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and that couldn't be like further from how Buffy is feeling but she just has to like spit it out so that her friends will like feel better about themselves and it's just horrible to watch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really sad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really, really sad, especially because this whole episode while watching, I was like, something is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, there's something is weird.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, there's weird shit going on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it really did make sense to me when we get buffy talking to Spike, which I wanna talk a little bit about the Spuffy stuff now because I feel like there's a lot to break down here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: um, she tells him that, yeah, she wasn't in a hell dimension.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She was happy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wherever she was, whether it was heaven or something, she was happy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, I knew that everyone I cared about was all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I knew it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Time didn't mean anything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing had form and I was still me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was warm, and I was loved, and I was finished, complete.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand about theology or dimensions or any of it really, but I think I was in heaven.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was torn out of there, pulled out by my friends.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything here is hard and bright and violent.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything I feel, everything I touch, this is hell.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just getting through the next moment and the one after that, knowing that what I've lost,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wolf, big, fat, fucking wolf.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So Sarah, we talked about like, how long is time, you know, we talked about the fact that it could be but more time is passed for Buffy, then for them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it sounds like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: wherever Buffy was in some sort of like heavenly place time really didn't have a meaning anymore anyway, so she felt like she had been there like an infinite amount of time if I'm reading that correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a I think she said earlier that

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh basically he said the amount of days and was like how many how long were you wherever you were and she said longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was really like it really gutted me honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great monologue, a good explanation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I fathomed that she would be in heaven or something like heaven just because the way that she died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was confusing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like we see her, like she goes through this giant portal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're led to believe that she like

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[SPEAKER_00]: when to some sort of other dimension, how they mentioned, whatever, but then we also see her body like on the ground dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it really was like, when, yes, you know, we were like, oh, this is a mystical death, right, like she gets absorbed by some sort of like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: dimensional energy, but that wasn't really the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still like unclear about I feel as though she died a non-mistical death, but the portal just wanted the blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So her sacrifice resolved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then she, it was non-mistical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like she got transported there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: whenever one goes when they die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And although I was expecting some sort of like purgatory, she wound up going to quote unquote the good place and the fact that like, I mean, once again, like last,

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[SPEAKER_00]: season with the penultimate episode which like you and I weren't really a big fan of but like she was like I'm tired like I don't want to do this anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to like keep running the rat race and for her to like have gotten that resolve and then to be taken right back to earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: having to fight the good fight all over again, yeah, like it was, it really was very impactful for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't think I, I know I didn't anticipate it, and also it just made so much sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, like if I had, like if I, she was so tired, I would be so tired and having to

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[SPEAKER_00]: like get whipped back to it and having to like have the way to the world to save continue to save the world for the rest of eternity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just so rough.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She was at peace.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like so to go from a place where you feel so much warmth and and not and not having to worry like about her loved ones that she left behind.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like she very much felt at peace.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So to go from that to then having to be this layer again in a very harsh, cruel fucking hell mouth like if she literally she says like I feel like I'm in hell like you are girl you're on hell mouth like that's where you are, I it it's awful and this is like I love that she has spike to talk to this about.

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[SPEAKER_04]: because he hasn't put all of these expectations on her of how like gratitude and happiness.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And like we saved you right, he doesn't put that on her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's able to say these things to him because, you know, he's not the one involved in the group hug.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not the one that's going to be like devastated to hear like, oh my God, we fucked up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't even involved.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's really nice that she does have a person to go to about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right because if you think about it like who else should could she tell like the four the four friends who brought her back obviously not them and like of course she wouldn't want to burden Dawn with this terrible knowledge and so and Giles is gone and so Spike is Spike is there and like you said like not putting the pressure on her that her friends are and I mean you both

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just the concept of Buffy, like in heaven and her friends tearing her out of there is just heartbreaking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you think back to Buffy's speech in the gift in the season 5 finale when she's talking to Dawn at the top of the tower and you hear it later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that she says Zedon is the hardest thing in this world is to live in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, be brave, live, and, you know, she did that, and she, like she said, she was done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was finished.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She protected everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She sacrificed herself to save their lives, and she knew that she had done it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and now she's, you know, been torn from this, this peace and happiness that she was in after that and is back, having to live in this world where the hardest thing to do is live in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just heartbreaking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I really,

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[SPEAKER_04]: enjoy to that she keeps ending up near spike right like obviously this situation she walks outside he's already there but earlier in the episode she's like oh I'm gonna go out like I'm gonna do some slang whatever she ends up at spike's crypt um and

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[SPEAKER_04]: It does feel like it makes sense to me, like she's like, I mean, she's looking depressed for one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But like being in the state that she's in, it makes sense that she would go to spike for like, you know, to be able to kind of let her hair down in a manner of speaking, like to be able to just truly be herself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: spike broke my heart so many times this episode like the look on his face when he sees Buffy and he knows immediately that's not Buffy but like I loved that they were they gave him that credit of being able to tell and

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[SPEAKER_04]: him immediately being like, listen, I remember I know what I said.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to protect her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And if I if I had been up there, you know, you wouldn't have died.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And basically he says like every single night, he pictures that night over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he he fixes the problems.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're he the mistakes that he need every night.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He saves her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I know like spike can be problematic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I

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[SPEAKER_04]: evil, reformed, baddie storyline.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And Spike is just like, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If he was truly bad, after Buffy dies, what's keeping him with the Scoobies?

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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have to stay with them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have to live up to this promise of taking care of Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He can fucking leave.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he doesn't owe them anything, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: If all he's there for is Buffy,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then he doesn't need to be hanging around, but he does, because he feels like he owes Buffy that he owes Buffy looking after Don.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He owes Joyce looking after Don.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I love that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I get real, I got real, a little, a little, a tad annoying with the ender.

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[SPEAKER_04]: when he barges out the house and spike is crying, literal face is wet and zanders like, oh, you think you're going to come hang around and it's like, a bitch, go go away, go get out of here, stop it, zanders back to back to off pretty quickly with that though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't that bad, uh, he did stop pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I was mad Sarah, because Spike was crying.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, of course, like I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I fell very in deared towards spike in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, it's hard for me to not see spike in a vulnerable state and not like my heart just like bleeds for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've said it once, I've said it a million times, like my favorite spike moments are when he's the underdog or being vulnerable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and that's what he's being.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yes, I felt very compelled to to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I, I even light it a little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I feel as though this sort of behavior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is the in that I said that I would need to see in order for me to come to the dark side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just you're making like these dancing movements when I'm video today, it makes me want, like, do you doing that shit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just makes me want to fight harder against it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So fuck Spuffy, fuck it all, and fuck the relationship and fuck him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's, let's run it in a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let me mediate a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think as I know Lindy's on my side because I know she loves fluffy I know I don't give a shit I've spent two seasons talking about Riley and being on my own for that I don't give a shit if I'm alone in a village it doesn't matter to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, tell me, you're entitled to hear a minute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to try to convince you of anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but I think you've had three dances.

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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, I think you should feel how you feel and not let what Jess feels influenced that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But okay, just I think you're in a great point of spike sticking around after Buffy dies being very important because you're right like he's not doing that in a selfish like I want to get with Buffy kind of way because she's gone and that's not a possibility, especially in his mind he doesn't know that they're going to try to bring her back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he we know he specifically doesn't want the but or he didn't want the buffie bot saying things like he has washboard abs and all that like it's obviously nothing to do with the buffie bot either because he's uncomfortable with it saying things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, you know, the help that he's been giving the Scoobies in the past 147 days has been, you know, out of his love for Buffy and her, you know, love for the people around her and he's still trying to protect them and and keep his promise to protect on to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that, you know, shines a good light on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, just he does recognize immediately that this is not Buffy, but this is Buffy and that's the second time that's happened like in season five when she came and kissed him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He knew immediately

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we do see a very sweet side of spike in this episode, and I truly love when he is in the living room like holding her hands and he's like 147 days yesterday, 148 today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Except, today doesn't count, does it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's so happy to be saying that today doesn't count.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, he's such a romantic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He loves love.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he is such a little fucking loser sap from whatever the hell year he was in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Writing fucking love poems about a girl he likes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's who he is, and I love that about him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that he's able to recognize instantly that the marks on her hands are from clawing out of a coffin.

55:49.283 --> 55:53.208
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it binds them, the trauma bonding, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like there is a connection that they now share, that the other Scoobies don't.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Buffy has forever changed and I think that as a result, a partner that she'd be interested in or gel well with, I think both needs to understand that side of her of like the darker side of what she's been through, but also bring levity to her life in a way that's like can do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's very funny.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He can make jokes and have a great time when he wants to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think like it makes sense, like I, in a world where we are like, okay, we know there are people who ship spuffy and we know that like they're probably going to do something together at some point, the path there makes sense to me, which I like it's not just like a, we have two hot people let's make them kiss, um, it feels like there's it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right because it's been that way since Susan too.

56:55.546 --> 57:10.401
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah it's feeling it's starting to feel earned which is once again like one of the arguments like why a lot of the the more fan servicey ships don't work for

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[SPEAKER_00]: people because it doesn't feel as earned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not that like established multi-season arc.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like, and once again, like he's extremely endearing, like I like the romantic moments or like his like little like romantic stoppy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like he's like a poet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this man is

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[SPEAKER_00]: His Venus is a water sign without a doubt we'll call it a Pisces or Scorpio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no other there's no other ways that's suffocating love right that you're just like let me in love you and I'm obsessed with this one person this one thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I and

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's been that way forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was with that way with that first girl where that girl was the world for a lot of years.

57:59.109 --> 58:03.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Darlo was, I'm not Darlo the Lulu was his world, like the only thing that he saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is just like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's a monogamous kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's a monogamous kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just he's so it's honestly a scorpion energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as someone who has been to the scorpion Venus, like bitch, I know about the scorpion Venus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, it is, it's very much that, like, I mean, like Pisces like can be like very,

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[SPEAKER_00]: like attached to you, but they're always looking for the, like, the true, like Disney love story, right?

58:37.809 --> 58:43.184
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so a lot of the times, like, if they feel like they're not getting that, then they'll, like, shift away.

58:43.244 --> 58:44.327
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll like, mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: flowed away like a little fish, but like a Scorpio Venus is like I'm in it for the long haul and I'm more my son and moon and stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very much that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like it's very intense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really really really, I like a lot of these moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really did work for me throughout the episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at least like the side of like his crush is working for me or like his love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so interesting because we hear so much, I don't even know which fucking angel episode it was.

59:18.269 --> 59:22.595
[SPEAKER_00]: They all all three just blur together because I watched them back to back today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they kept like saying like angel like buffies your one true love like the one person that you love more than anything and it's just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just saw a lot of whining and fucking, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only a fuck like the one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, which I guess they would usually too busy whining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the whining got away with the fucking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm intrigued that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Darla reads to me more as like his big love.

59:53.661 --> 59:56.004
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the number of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever he's, he telling me it's buffy.

59:59.268 --> 01:00:01.911
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, how did he fucking impregnated that bitch?

01:00:01.951 --> 01:00:04.114
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought we didn't get to see her episode three.

01:00:04.134 --> 01:00:05.396
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into it.

01:00:05.736 --> 01:00:08.219
[SPEAKER_00]: What a waste of time and snowy thing.

01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:15.368
[SPEAKER_04]: But before we dive into all the Angel non-sense Lindy, anything else on after life, on the buffy episode for this week.

01:00:16.327 --> 01:00:24.318
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a quick funny thing was when a spike barge is in the house looking for Don, he's like, you scared me half to death, or more to death.

01:00:26.060 --> 01:00:26.541
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

01:00:26.601 --> 01:00:27.843
[SPEAKER_04]: He was very parental.

01:00:27.903 --> 01:00:29.625
[SPEAKER_04]: He was so freaking cute.

01:00:29.946 --> 01:00:33.791
[SPEAKER_04]: I loved that because it kind of just proves that the key really does care about Don.

01:00:34.151 --> 01:00:35.333
[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't like for show.

01:00:35.393 --> 01:00:37.776
[SPEAKER_04]: He had no idea, Buffy was even in the house at that point.

01:00:38.497 --> 01:00:38.918
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

01:00:38.958 --> 01:00:45.507
[SPEAKER_02]: And then another funny line, Buffy telling Don, those of us who fail history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.

01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:47.041
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a good line.

01:00:47.101 --> 01:00:48.062
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, she made her lunch.

01:00:48.423 --> 01:00:49.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Was Wendy sweet?

01:00:49.304 --> 01:00:50.446
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever been to summer school?

01:00:51.407 --> 01:00:52.208
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I have not.

01:00:52.969 --> 01:00:54.050
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:54.171 --> 01:00:58.396
[SPEAKER_00]: Why was Buffy dressing like Joyce in the last few scenes?

01:00:58.797 --> 01:01:04.464
[SPEAKER_04]: Girl, she stopped just showing ankle, show like all your calves, like what is happening?

01:01:04.805 --> 01:01:10.172
[SPEAKER_00]: It just looked like she went for Joyce's closet and was like, I'm gonna wear my mom's clothes because I miss her.

01:01:10.553 --> 01:01:13.857
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I hated that because like last episodes,

01:01:13.837 --> 01:01:25.942
[SPEAKER_04]: She was stuck in her like literal buried in outfit of like all black with a tiny kitten heel which was truly tragic beyond the hair being awful And now she's dressing like a 40 year old woman.

01:01:26.002 --> 01:01:30.090
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna need them to not do this to me for the rest of the show

01:01:30.627 --> 01:01:32.049
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be unfortunate.

01:01:32.129 --> 01:01:38.118
[SPEAKER_00]: When Willow's looking hotter than you, then you know they're in a tragic real trouble.

01:01:38.879 --> 01:01:39.420
[SPEAKER_04]: Yikes.

01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:45.148
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, the every episode we watch, Ania's belt gets wider and wider.

01:01:45.188 --> 01:01:49.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, it's just going to be like a belt, a whole belt top.

01:01:51.137 --> 01:01:51.698
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

01:01:51.818 --> 01:01:52.759
[SPEAKER_00]: Early odds, baby.

01:01:52.799 --> 01:01:54.622
[SPEAKER_01]: We are in the early odds.

01:01:54.642 --> 01:01:58.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Buckle, buckle, buckle, core, you know.

01:01:59.146 --> 01:02:05.356
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, let's get into Angel, um, the episode of Angel, that old gang of mine.

01:02:05.376 --> 01:02:11.485
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, it's like a largely gun-based episode in multiple ways, I suppose.

01:02:12.827 --> 01:02:15.651
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't really care for this episode.

01:02:16.212 --> 01:02:24.245
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it feels very obvious to me that there are no people of color in the writer's room when we get these sorts of episodes.

01:02:24.806 --> 01:02:25.727
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels so

01:02:25.707 --> 01:02:30.135
[SPEAKER_04]: put on and obviously recognize and they're like, I am a white person saying this.

01:02:30.996 --> 01:02:44.239
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like it's like they only know one way to write the sort of a storyline and it's like, oh, this black group, they're in like a gang and they all have guns and it just felt like it gave me the egg.

01:02:44.590 --> 01:02:58.549
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and I want gone back story, but I feel like we could do it with like, oh, like a lighter hand, like it could be so much more subtle than what they gave us.

01:02:58.715 --> 01:03:24.958
[SPEAKER_04]: even like the previously on was like remember gun had to kill his sister who became a vampire like and then he just abandoned his group of friends who were vampire hunters and now they're just hunting any old demon that they deem as being wrong or whatever like I don't know I it just felt very heavy handed to me but maybe maybe on alone I don't know.

01:03:26.221 --> 01:03:45.223
[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite part was when guns old best friend was like this loser's your new best friend like it was very much like you're doing your high school best friend to your college best friend and they are just like.

01:03:47.545 --> 01:03:53.612
[SPEAKER_00]: Sussing each other out like you're the best new best friend.

01:03:54.807 --> 01:04:14.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it was the weakest out of the three episodes that I watched at one point in time today and the whole reason why I was watching them was because I wanted to see the Darla pregnancy story lines which of course in this episode I did not get

01:04:14.737 --> 01:04:18.263
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was just like, what's the point of living?

01:04:18.844 --> 01:04:20.086
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why did I do this?

01:04:21.308 --> 01:04:22.449
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know.

01:04:22.530 --> 01:04:25.855
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, I can't, I can't say anything.

01:04:25.875 --> 01:04:35.931
[SPEAKER_00]: It was this the episode where Courtney brought Frankie, Frank, Frank, Fred, Fred, Fred, yeah, they, I did enjoy her singing.

01:04:35.951 --> 01:04:40.238
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was Patsy Klein.

01:04:40.218 --> 01:04:41.721
[SPEAKER_04]: It was painful.

01:04:41.781 --> 01:04:50.879
[SPEAKER_04]: Like how offbeat she was, um, I wanted her to be better at karaoke, but like girly pop was going for it.

01:04:50.999 --> 01:04:52.121
[SPEAKER_04]: So good on you Fred.

01:04:52.863 --> 01:05:00.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, that was kind of enjoyable.

01:05:00.839 --> 01:05:02.385
[SPEAKER_00]: Lindy, did you watch the episode here?

01:05:02.465 --> 01:05:03.127
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you angel?

01:05:03.188 --> 01:05:04.211
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you even remember?

01:05:04.252 --> 01:05:05.556
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen all of angel.

01:05:05.617 --> 01:05:11.980
[SPEAKER_02]: And I did rewatch this third episode for today, although I don't think I needed to, but I did.

01:05:12.128 --> 01:05:12.549
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:13.290 --> 01:05:13.650
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:13.670 --> 01:05:15.814
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, sometimes this is skip.

01:05:16.014 --> 01:05:16.895
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's okay.

01:05:17.456 --> 01:05:35.243
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was almost interesting just, you know, how they perceived gun to guns old friends perceived gun as like just abandoning them and hanging out with like a demon and now being a demon protector, which is the opposite of what they stood for.

01:05:35.724 --> 01:05:35.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:05:35.804 --> 01:05:49.009
[SPEAKER_04]: And gone questioning, like, why are we investigating demons that have been killed, rather than like, I thought I was here to protect humans, like, that's interesting if it's handled with a little bit more subtlety.

01:05:49.029 --> 01:05:53.517
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I could have used this being like a three episode art, like sure, paste it out of it.

01:05:53.938 --> 01:05:57.745
[SPEAKER_00]: What about the last conversation that...

01:05:57.995 --> 01:06:16.088
[SPEAKER_00]: Angel and Gun had where like, Angel was like, thank you for your loyalty and Gun is like, you don't have my loyalty, but, you know, friends, we're not really friends because of whatever he said, was that interesting, was there any legs there?

01:06:16.895 --> 01:06:30.735
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I honestly think the part I enjoyed much most was like the very first scene where we get like the guy, the demon, they're like arguing with and like basically he wants Angel to apologize and angels big baby and doesn't want to apologize.

01:06:31.276 --> 01:06:31.457
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:31.477 --> 01:06:33.840
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought there was like some comedy there.

01:06:34.023 --> 01:06:35.465
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, yeah.

01:06:35.485 --> 01:06:38.810
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, like, he, he has, his friend died.

01:06:38.850 --> 01:06:40.273
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I died.

01:06:40.293 --> 01:06:44.279
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I forget how and why but friends.

01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:45.961
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.

01:06:46.062 --> 01:06:46.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.

01:06:47.684 --> 01:06:55.356
[SPEAKER_00]: Where I, yeah, I, like, but my head, the is just like, um,

01:06:56.686 --> 01:06:57.007
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:57.348 --> 01:06:58.150
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.

01:06:58.813 --> 01:07:03.487
[SPEAKER_00]: However, you know, I heard that there's there's some juice comments.

01:07:03.687 --> 01:07:07.760
[SPEAKER_00]: So if there's some juice, then there's some juice, you know, that shit if it's there.

01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:10.408
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the dollar stuff.

01:07:11.215 --> 01:07:21.687
[SPEAKER_02]: They've obviously got the Darla story on the back burner, like that's that's going to happen whatever is happening with that it wasn't in this episode, but they've set it up for an as me.

01:07:22.988 --> 01:07:34.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Our our one of our friends kind of did the pregnancy math and said that like she's probably like seven and half months pregnant, which is.

01:07:34.621 --> 01:07:37.967
[SPEAKER_00]: continues to be ironic because that's right where I am.

01:07:38.007 --> 01:07:43.356
[SPEAKER_00]: So me, me and Darla, we're just two peas in a pot, I suppose.

01:07:43.437 --> 01:07:46.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess.

01:07:46.682 --> 01:07:49.808
[SPEAKER_04]: They better remember, Darla next episode or I will fucking riot.

01:07:51.110 --> 01:07:53.494
[SPEAKER_04]: I swear, I will throw a fucking fit.

01:07:53.875 --> 01:07:55.498
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't even know.

01:07:55.478 --> 01:07:58.841
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we're about to see so many fits from dress.

01:07:58.861 --> 01:08:01.925
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't get what she wants to do.

01:08:03.646 --> 01:08:05.368
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I can't run.

01:08:05.448 --> 01:08:06.730
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't thrown enough fits lately.

01:08:06.770 --> 01:08:07.971
[SPEAKER_04]: I think so.

01:08:08.291 --> 01:08:09.953
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you've been very like level headed.

01:08:09.973 --> 01:08:16.680
[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking recently about our podcast from way back when.

01:08:16.740 --> 01:08:19.883
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I am talking like back in the day to 80.

01:08:19.863 --> 01:08:24.113
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember, boy means Rose, or you're talking about Dawson's Creed.

01:08:24.133 --> 01:08:24.754
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing.

01:08:25.055 --> 01:08:26.137
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember which one it was.

01:08:26.277 --> 01:08:29.805
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say it was Dawson's Creed because it feels more Dawson's Creed than Christmas.

01:08:29.825 --> 01:08:32.371
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so when our show was actually good, right, go on.

01:08:32.411 --> 01:08:32.652
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

01:08:33.333 --> 01:08:34.315
[SPEAKER_04]: Back when our show was good.

01:08:34.917 --> 01:08:36.420
[SPEAKER_04]: And we got like,

01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:38.584
[SPEAKER_04]: very drunk on the podcast.

01:08:38.605 --> 01:08:40.027
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, drink every time.

01:08:40.108 --> 01:08:41.050
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, we're all.

01:08:42.713 --> 01:08:44.617
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're okay, go on, finish your story.

01:08:44.637 --> 01:08:55.860
[SPEAKER_04]: And we were so obnoxious that like all of our audio is so blown out, screaming into our microphone, but it's worlds, because it was, right?

01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:56.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:08:57.182 --> 01:09:00.768
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was the fourth episode that we ever recorded at Boy Me's Girl.

01:09:00.849 --> 01:09:01.770
[SPEAKER_00]: That's season.

01:09:02.311 --> 01:09:04.094
[SPEAKER_00]: It was season one episode four.

01:09:04.435 --> 01:09:08.922
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I drink an entire bottle of wine while we were recording.

01:09:09.323 --> 01:09:10.906
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so drunk.

01:09:11.126 --> 01:09:11.447
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:11.507 --> 01:09:12.408
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot.

01:09:13.109 --> 01:09:13.971
[SPEAKER_00]: It got out of hand.

01:09:14.031 --> 01:09:18.058
[SPEAKER_00]: But the point was that I went on this whole time to try about like the Pengas hair.

01:09:18.078 --> 01:09:19.120
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a mess.

01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:19.941
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:09:19.921 --> 01:09:22.406
[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing is, it's like, I don't throw enough fits, I think.

01:09:22.566 --> 01:09:24.149
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I've become too normal.

01:09:24.289 --> 01:09:28.236
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm gonna, I'm gonna aspire to throw more fits while I'm actually upset about it.

01:09:28.276 --> 01:09:30.661
[SPEAKER_00]: The podcast demons have beat us down.

01:09:30.861 --> 01:09:32.043
[SPEAKER_00]: We used to be unhinged.

01:09:32.063 --> 01:09:33.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're afraid of us beat us down.

01:09:33.947 --> 01:09:39.617
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

01:09:39.597 --> 01:09:41.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even drink now.

01:09:42.403 --> 01:09:43.946
[SPEAKER_00]: What's this life come to?

01:09:44.006 --> 01:09:45.028
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the point?

01:09:45.048 --> 01:09:45.429
[SPEAKER_04]: Truly.

01:09:45.649 --> 01:09:46.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just old.

01:09:46.551 --> 01:09:47.313
[SPEAKER_00]: We started this.

01:09:47.333 --> 01:09:48.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I was pretty chicken.

01:09:48.335 --> 01:09:48.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I was there.

01:09:48.856 --> 01:09:50.218
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we were children when this started.

01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:52.022
[SPEAKER_04]: We were babies, babies in the spring.

01:09:52.062 --> 01:09:52.543
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:09:53.625 --> 01:09:54.848
[SPEAKER_04]: It was stupid.

01:09:55.088 --> 01:09:55.429
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.

01:09:55.409 --> 01:10:11.697
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay, let's get into some feedback because we actually did get a decent amount of feedback this week from the listeners are lovely lovely listeners So we got an message from Andrew among other people who did let us know Anthony Stewart head did decide to leave on his own

01:10:11.677 --> 01:10:13.760
[SPEAKER_04]: Season 5 was going to be the end.

01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:14.742
[SPEAKER_04]: He was ready to move on.

01:10:14.802 --> 01:10:16.845
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he wanted to go do broadway stuff.

01:10:17.105 --> 01:10:20.671
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, when the show got picked up for season 6, he really didn't want to come back.

01:10:20.711 --> 01:10:25.659
[SPEAKER_04]: They negotiated him for him to return a certain and non-spoiler number of episodes.

01:10:25.779 --> 01:10:26.680
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

01:10:27.101 --> 01:10:31.828
[SPEAKER_04]: So, if you're sad to lose daddy Giles, don't worry too much.

01:10:31.808 --> 01:10:39.720
[SPEAKER_04]: On another note, now that we know the value of robot substitutes, did you ever consider having a robot sub-inforcerary during your upcoming maternity leave?

01:10:39.820 --> 01:10:42.644
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure it would be seamless, it absolutely nobody would notice.

01:10:44.487 --> 01:10:45.148
[SPEAKER_00]: Sarah Bot.

01:10:46.710 --> 01:10:47.191
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

01:10:47.211 --> 01:10:51.437
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, once again, do you think that we chat GBT yet?

01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:54.662
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, absolutely not.

01:10:54.722 --> 01:11:00.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in the end, I guess because of the environment, but do you think that we could get a robot?

01:11:01.930 --> 01:11:04.774
[SPEAKER_00]: And we, I mean, we did talk about it.

01:11:04.794 --> 01:11:08.518
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like we could give it a certain amount of information and it could do a decent job.

01:11:08.538 --> 01:11:11.120
[SPEAKER_04]: But like we could just be like, she loves Riley.

01:11:11.181 --> 01:11:15.265
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll have to talk about how much she hates Willow's hair.

01:11:15.245 --> 01:11:18.009
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I like it this season except for season six.

01:11:18.089 --> 01:11:18.951
[SPEAKER_04]: Now she likes it.

01:11:18.991 --> 01:11:23.257
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like spike mostly when just likes him, you know, right.

01:11:23.297 --> 01:11:26.542
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, somebody, I mean, somebody else can do my job.

01:11:26.702 --> 01:11:27.103
[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.

01:11:27.684 --> 01:11:39.261
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like in all honesty, it's something that we could consider like it was one of our options like, hey, yeah, do we get a substitute for a certain amount of time?

01:11:39.241 --> 01:11:48.633
[SPEAKER_00]: If we didn't feel like double recording episodes or if I needed more time after our double recorded episodes, because we don't want to like break my momentum too much.

01:11:48.713 --> 01:11:59.567
[SPEAKER_00]: We're scheduled to finish this series by the end of the year of course, then that's probably when the Buffy reboots going to come back and then we're going to get bullied into doing it.

01:11:59.587 --> 01:12:06.936
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're never going to stop covering Buffy, but it's something that we considered who would be my substitute who's

01:12:06.916 --> 01:12:09.639
[SPEAKER_00]: A adequate, I mean, like, probably anybody.

01:12:09.679 --> 01:12:11.400
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll do it.

01:12:12.261 --> 01:12:13.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay will do it.

01:12:13.102 --> 01:12:14.203
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of tires.

01:12:14.703 --> 01:12:16.025
[SPEAKER_04]: Lindsay volunteers this tribute.

01:12:17.406 --> 01:12:21.670
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think like obviously still up in the air, like there is a possibility.

01:12:21.810 --> 01:12:28.256
[SPEAKER_04]: We will have someone come in for a few episodes if you needed more time as in a fly eye to all the listeners at this point.

01:12:28.296 --> 01:12:30.218
[SPEAKER_04]: We are double recording every week.

01:12:30.278 --> 01:12:35.843
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you do want to send in feedback number one, send in in the subject to line like,

01:12:35.823 --> 01:12:37.325
[SPEAKER_04]: what episode it's for.

01:12:37.905 --> 01:12:42.550
[SPEAKER_04]: But send it in because we're going to be recording two times a week for the foreseeable future.

01:12:42.630 --> 01:12:45.313
[SPEAKER_04]: So, um, but yeah, that would be funny.

01:12:45.413 --> 01:12:48.036
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think we could figure out away to feed it.

01:12:48.056 --> 01:12:50.779
[SPEAKER_04]: We just would have to feed it the entire podcast library.

01:12:51.140 --> 01:12:51.680
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Lindsay.

01:12:52.161 --> 01:12:52.842
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a question.

01:12:52.902 --> 01:12:54.223
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:54.243 --> 01:13:02.472
[SPEAKER_00]: If we fed a script to AI or whatever, could you do a dramatic reading as me?

01:13:02.654 --> 01:13:05.967
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be so good at doing a dramatic reading as Sarah.

01:13:06.509 --> 01:13:07.975
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was born for that role.

01:13:08.216 --> 01:13:10.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well then, perfect.

01:13:10.184 --> 01:13:11.449
[SPEAKER_00]: Sign sealed delivered.

01:13:11.529 --> 01:13:12.031
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.

01:13:12.071 --> 01:13:13.035
[SPEAKER_04]: Higher.

01:13:13.505 --> 01:13:14.146
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

01:13:14.246 --> 01:13:14.486
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

01:13:14.506 --> 01:13:16.729
[SPEAKER_04]: So I also got an email from Joe.

01:13:17.250 --> 01:13:20.093
[SPEAKER_04]: It's time to tell you about my Buffy verse origin.

01:13:20.313 --> 01:13:22.416
[SPEAKER_04]: This was the first full season of Buffy.

01:13:22.476 --> 01:13:23.277
[SPEAKER_04]: I had ever seen.

01:13:23.317 --> 01:13:24.658
[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy.

01:13:25.059 --> 01:13:25.660
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.

01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.263
[SPEAKER_04]: Just go in like more than halfway through the series.

01:13:28.323 --> 01:13:29.364
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, here I am.

01:13:29.905 --> 01:13:34.190
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in the summer I was at my sister's house and they were airing some sort of Buffy marathon.

01:13:34.270 --> 01:13:36.673
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw the last four episodes of the previous season.

01:13:37.234 --> 01:13:42.600
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, watching Buffy

01:13:42.580 --> 01:13:48.891
[SPEAKER_04]: uh uh jossus famous for putting things in the show years in advance and then paying off uh seasons later.

01:13:48.911 --> 01:13:53.939
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh I totally understand how not seeing it all can be a let down like the season premiere.

01:13:54.360 --> 01:13:57.906
[SPEAKER_04]: Totally agree though on the two-parter probably could have just been one.

01:13:58.807 --> 01:13:59.929
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

01:14:00.470 --> 01:14:05.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we think that they did it as a two-parter just for just for fun?

01:14:06.458 --> 01:14:07.741
[SPEAKER_00]: Shits and gigs, I don't know.

01:14:07.921 --> 01:14:12.330
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, what get and we get for good, it could have been one, that was a money grab.

01:14:12.771 --> 01:14:15.035
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, is this a money grab somehow?

01:14:15.055 --> 01:14:17.119
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do 22 episodes, right?

01:14:17.580 --> 01:14:19.945
[SPEAKER_04]: So they're like, well, they're giving us two hours for the first one.

01:14:20.228 --> 01:14:21.009
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

01:14:21.029 --> 01:14:21.410
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:14:21.950 --> 01:14:26.436
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't actually know the answer, but like maybe just to make it more of an event since they like switch networks.

01:14:26.476 --> 01:14:28.399
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, two-hour premiere.

01:14:28.459 --> 01:14:29.080
[SPEAKER_02]: That's Buffy.

01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:30.181
[SPEAKER_02]: Come watch it.

01:14:30.201 --> 01:14:31.703
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder.

01:14:31.944 --> 01:14:32.584
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder.

01:14:32.625 --> 01:14:34.267
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

01:14:34.307 --> 01:14:42.718
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they have like the, um, like on YouTube or something, the advertisement for that.

01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:44.801
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that they do.

01:14:45.001 --> 01:14:45.402
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

01:14:45.422 --> 01:14:48.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they do.

01:14:48.511 --> 01:14:49.416
[SPEAKER_00]: other things.

01:14:50.965 --> 01:14:51.629
[SPEAKER_04]: I could try.

01:14:51.810 --> 01:14:54.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good to do a quick search.

01:14:54.704 --> 01:15:00.451
[SPEAKER_04]: We got an email from Jen, who says, first off, congrats Sarah on your happy news.

01:15:00.871 --> 01:15:01.392
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

01:15:01.712 --> 01:15:07.679
[SPEAKER_04]: A few months ago, I followed Jess over from talking shit, rip and meat pod, check out your butt.

01:15:07.699 --> 01:15:08.680
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't meet butt every time.

01:15:09.020 --> 01:15:11.503
[SPEAKER_04]: Your coverage of Buffy, one of my all-time favorites.

01:15:11.623 --> 01:15:14.546
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been frantically binge-watching and listening trying to catch up.

01:15:14.967 --> 01:15:19.632
[SPEAKER_04]: My goal was to catch up before my, and everyone's favorite episode of the series.

01:15:19.953 --> 01:15:21.675
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy I made it.

01:15:22.055 --> 01:15:22.956
[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen butt, not this one.

01:15:22.936 --> 01:15:23.857
[SPEAKER_04]: this isn't her favorite.

01:15:23.958 --> 01:15:27.503
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I know it's obviously, it's obviously, it's obviously the music episode.

01:15:27.563 --> 01:15:28.024
[SPEAKER_04]: We're fine.

01:15:28.204 --> 01:15:32.752
[SPEAKER_04]: We have a panel and we already know that there's a musical episode, everyone is fine.

01:15:33.212 --> 01:15:35.776
[SPEAKER_04]: I like there's no way we weren't going to know the results.

01:15:36.157 --> 01:15:40.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the thing is is that in my head, I was also like,

01:15:41.735 --> 01:15:48.203
[SPEAKER_00]: What if the musical was like, Buffy being like, gotta get back from the day?

01:15:48.223 --> 01:15:48.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh!

01:15:48.564 --> 01:15:50.867
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was her traversing the house.

01:15:51.267 --> 01:15:52.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:52.609 --> 01:15:59.317
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was just like, oh, no, this is like just like a manic thing of like a dream being like half coming back.

01:15:59.718 --> 01:16:01.500
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, could be, could be like a flashback.

01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:06.106
[SPEAKER_00]: I rooted in my head and then once again, we see no purgatory, so whatever.

01:16:06.467 --> 01:16:08.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I just need to watch toothless again.

01:16:08.469 --> 01:16:10.712
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, anyway, go on.

01:16:10.692 --> 01:16:12.234
[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen Buffy several times.

01:16:12.394 --> 01:16:13.676
[SPEAKER_04]: It aired when I was in college.

01:16:13.716 --> 01:16:15.619
[SPEAKER_04]: My roommate was obsessed and I got sucked in.

01:16:15.719 --> 01:16:16.780
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen angel.

01:16:17.061 --> 01:16:19.184
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm watching that along with you.

01:16:19.384 --> 01:16:20.325
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God.

01:16:20.906 --> 01:16:21.387
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

01:16:21.507 --> 01:16:24.171
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been pretty mess so far, but maybe it's turning around.

01:16:24.731 --> 01:16:26.934
[SPEAKER_04]: But what a treat to revisit Buffy along with you.

01:16:27.054 --> 01:16:30.139
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so much fun listening to your fresh takes and unspoiled predictions.

01:16:30.499 --> 01:16:31.080
[SPEAKER_04]: You really are

01:16:31.060 --> 01:16:31.981
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, yay!

01:16:32.181 --> 01:16:40.270
[SPEAKER_04]: You really helped me appreciate season four more than I have in the past, and now I'm realizing that I have much more fondness for Alice and Hannah again than for Willow.

01:16:40.290 --> 01:16:48.960
[SPEAKER_04]: I no longer feel alone in my huge crush on jiles since you and all of your delightful guests seem to have one too, and maybe I haven't given Donna Fairshake.

01:16:49.421 --> 01:17:00.173
[SPEAKER_04]: In your last episode of Listeners shared that you helped her get through a personal tragedy, I too suffered a significant loss recently, and have found both escape and comfort in listening to you too, having fun with a

01:17:00.153 --> 01:17:02.957
[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you for being a bright spot in my life over the last few months.

01:17:03.078 --> 01:17:06.583
[SPEAKER_04]: You never know how putting a little joy out into the world may buoy others.

01:17:07.024 --> 01:17:09.968
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't wait to finish the journey with you all the best, Jen.

01:17:10.409 --> 01:17:11.350
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much, Jen.

01:17:11.370 --> 01:17:13.173
[SPEAKER_04]: That means a lot to both of us.

01:17:13.794 --> 01:17:19.643
[SPEAKER_04]: I love when we hear people saying that like they enjoy season four now more.

01:17:19.784 --> 01:17:21.005
[SPEAKER_04]: Because like me enjoyed it.

01:17:21.025 --> 01:17:21.566
[SPEAKER_04]: Be yeah.

01:17:21.867 --> 01:17:22.648
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:17:22.668 --> 01:17:23.950
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, Adam.

01:17:23.930 --> 01:17:31.518
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I just think that sometimes you need to just lean in, you know, you definitely do, lean into the wacky.

01:17:32.018 --> 01:17:33.240
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:17:33.340 --> 01:17:39.346
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for listening, Jen, and we're so happy to have you along for the ride with us, especially watching Angel for the first time.

01:17:39.426 --> 01:17:49.296
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to know more of your thoughts because I think that's a really interesting perspective being someone who's like a big, buffy superfan, but is now just watching Angel now, merely interested in that.

01:17:49.630 --> 01:17:56.063
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, we also got an email from Michael, uh, who says I meant to check in during season five, just didn't get it together.

01:17:56.183 --> 01:17:57.085
[SPEAKER_04]: Another great season.

01:17:57.165 --> 01:18:04.621
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have to say again, as we begin to wind down the final few seasons, thank you as a fan of Buffet and Angel for over a quarter of a century.

01:18:04.701 --> 01:18:05.783
[SPEAKER_04]: Good God, Michael.

01:18:05.763 --> 01:18:10.031
[SPEAKER_04]: I really thought I had heard every possible take a person could have on these shows.

01:18:10.492 --> 01:18:14.719
[SPEAKER_04]: You have no idea how rare it is to hear someone say something new about fluffy.

01:18:15.140 --> 01:18:20.790
[SPEAKER_04]: Yet somehow your crazy asses do it every day and week.

01:18:20.870 --> 01:18:27.322
[SPEAKER_04]: Five full seasons under the belt and I still cannot predict how you're going to react to things or what you'll see that I somehow missed.

01:18:27.342 --> 01:18:28.564
[SPEAKER_04]: It's such a gift.

01:18:28.544 --> 01:18:35.674
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that even after they're on his over, you're going to see Buffy fans coming to these episodes for the exact same reason I do, totally fresh perspectives.

01:18:36.075 --> 01:18:40.401
[SPEAKER_04]: There may be some listeners who get bummed when you don't love their favorite episodes or characters, but that ain't me.

01:18:40.722 --> 01:18:43.606
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm here for all the contrarian takes, bring it on.

01:18:44.447 --> 01:18:47.732
[SPEAKER_04]: As you seem to have already surmised, there are no crosstovers this season.

01:18:47.952 --> 01:18:51.177
[SPEAKER_04]: There are some occasional references.

01:18:51.157 --> 01:18:54.922
[SPEAKER_04]: But fear not, there are still some pretty solid crossovers in season seven.

01:18:55.082 --> 01:18:56.584
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

01:18:56.604 --> 01:18:59.407
[SPEAKER_04]: Something to look forward to.

01:18:59.467 --> 01:19:00.669
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

01:19:00.689 --> 01:19:01.370
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.

01:19:01.390 --> 01:19:04.834
[SPEAKER_04]: Regarding Giles, it's true that the actor Tony, he calls him Tony.

01:19:05.034 --> 01:19:05.655
[SPEAKER_04]: Tony.

01:19:05.675 --> 01:19:05.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony.

01:19:06.015 --> 01:19:07.497
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.

01:19:07.557 --> 01:19:11.902
[SPEAKER_04]: Did move back to the UK to spend more time with his family, but there are still some great Giles moments to come.

01:19:12.043 --> 01:19:14.325
[SPEAKER_04]: Finally, congrats Sarah on impending motherhood.

01:19:14.365 --> 01:19:20.573
[SPEAKER_04]: Raising kids is awesome dot dot dot, eventually.

01:19:20.553 --> 01:19:23.577
[SPEAKER_00]: my baby sucked in the first month in particular.

01:19:23.597 --> 01:19:29.504
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like the tea that I'm hearing.

01:19:29.664 --> 01:19:31.526
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually it should be good.

01:19:32.007 --> 01:19:33.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're having a boy.

01:19:33.208 --> 01:19:35.491
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I've said that on the podcast.

01:19:35.511 --> 01:19:37.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, his name is not sander.

01:19:37.273 --> 01:19:41.058
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, for that, thank you.

01:19:41.118 --> 01:19:48.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I should be adults.

01:19:48.266 --> 01:19:49.648
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

01:19:49.628 --> 01:19:58.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, actually, I'm going to do a quick search and see, hold on, but yeah, thank you so much, Michael, for the update.

01:19:59.705 --> 01:20:12.346
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very kind when people say that we have fresh takes because, like, truly, again, we don't know what anybody else thinks beyond, like, some listener feedbacks slash guest, you know, opinions, but I don't know what was like popular when the show aired.

01:20:13.908 --> 01:20:16.092
[SPEAKER_04]: I

01:20:16.072 --> 01:20:19.836
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't truly know, so yeah, it's always interesting.

01:20:20.757 --> 01:20:28.345
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you all know, there are like promos on YouTube from when Buffy was airing.

01:20:28.565 --> 01:20:32.489
[SPEAKER_02]: So I could maybe try to watch one and see if I could send it to you.

01:20:32.549 --> 01:20:35.152
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you can't like look at the suggestive videos.

01:20:35.573 --> 01:20:36.894
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll watch it in Cognito mode.

01:20:37.194 --> 01:20:38.916
[SPEAKER_04]: So that it doesn't even get in my screen.

01:20:38.996 --> 01:20:39.597
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll go with it.

01:20:40.037 --> 01:20:44.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here's like such a weird.

01:20:45.940 --> 01:20:57.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there is a character in an angel.

01:20:59.187 --> 01:21:05.713
[SPEAKER_00]: that is partially a name of which I'm naming my son.

01:21:05.753 --> 01:21:09.898
[SPEAKER_00]: That is like such like a bad, it's of a character.

01:21:09.918 --> 01:21:11.920
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a hard-leaving comprehensible.

01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:13.101
[SPEAKER_00]: What?

01:21:13.121 --> 01:21:13.581
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.

01:21:13.641 --> 01:21:14.162
[SPEAKER_04]: Never won.

01:21:14.222 --> 01:21:15.083
[SPEAKER_04]: Definitely.

01:21:15.163 --> 01:21:18.106
[SPEAKER_04]: Sarah is saying is that a character in, yeah.

01:21:18.146 --> 01:21:25.633
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a character in Angel who's a segment of their name is what they are naming their baby.

01:21:25.613 --> 01:21:26.495
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, thank you.

01:21:26.715 --> 01:21:30.382
[SPEAKER_04]: So like let's pretend there's a character named Jonathan.

01:21:30.422 --> 01:21:34.049
[SPEAKER_04]: Sarah's like my kids name is John.

01:21:34.109 --> 01:21:46.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, or like last name, you know, like, yeah, Connor read and the name is Connor or read or read or read or read.

01:21:46.977 --> 01:21:48.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, is what I'm saying.

01:21:48.579 --> 01:21:55.969
[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, this just goes back to there is no English that I speak anymore.

01:21:56.410 --> 01:21:56.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:21:56.630 --> 01:21:58.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything is.

01:21:58.833 --> 01:22:06.203
[SPEAKER_00]: So like when I was like saying last week of there was one thing, I said I asked Adam, what did I say?

01:22:06.404 --> 01:22:07.946
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you did you Google it to them?

01:22:08.447 --> 01:22:09.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you Google it to them?

01:22:09.949 --> 01:22:11.551
[SPEAKER_00]: Or did you Google it to her?

01:22:11.591 --> 01:22:14.515
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said it with a straight face.

01:22:14.915 --> 01:22:16.798
[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes no fucking sense.

01:22:17.302 --> 01:22:20.565
[SPEAKER_00]: My brain is literally gone, but it's fine.

01:22:21.266 --> 01:22:26.331
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was trying to see if there was like an episode title with the name in it, but, no.

01:22:28.072 --> 01:22:30.174
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we have one last piece of feedback.

01:22:30.354 --> 01:22:34.358
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna preemptively apologize because apparently, D.B.K.

01:22:34.398 --> 01:22:35.820
[SPEAKER_04]: census of voice mail at some point.

01:22:36.340 --> 01:22:37.581
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't wanna what happened to it.

01:22:37.862 --> 01:22:39.703
[SPEAKER_04]: So you disrespect a D.B.K.

01:22:39.723 --> 01:22:43.647
[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently, that's what I do on the regular.

01:22:43.627 --> 01:22:44.688
[SPEAKER_04]: So, D.B.D.

01:22:44.929 --> 01:22:46.872
[SPEAKER_04]: is a friend who's out of here.

01:22:46.892 --> 01:22:47.132
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:22:47.492 --> 01:22:50.617
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was Dawson's Creek related.

01:22:50.637 --> 01:22:52.900
[SPEAKER_04]: So, maybe that's why it never got played.

01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:53.501
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

01:22:53.521 --> 01:22:55.263
[SPEAKER_04]: But he is now sent in a voicemail.

01:22:55.904 --> 01:22:56.986
[SPEAKER_04]: Buffy related.

01:22:57.006 --> 01:22:57.106
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:22:57.226 --> 01:22:58.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Because D.B.A.

01:22:58.488 --> 01:23:00.210
[SPEAKER_00]: is a friend from our.

01:23:01.332 --> 01:23:02.033
[SPEAKER_00]: Dawson's Creek Days.

01:23:02.093 --> 01:23:03.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Dawson's Creek Days.

01:23:03.294 --> 01:23:04.716
[SPEAKER_00]: But also our Felicity Days.

01:23:04.876 --> 01:23:05.437
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

01:23:05.978 --> 01:23:06.158
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

01:23:06.919 --> 01:23:07.260
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:09.583
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to play the voicemail from D.B.K.

01:23:09.783 --> 01:23:11.926
[SPEAKER_06]: What up, though, ladies?

01:23:11.946 --> 01:23:19.679
[SPEAKER_06]: I sat like a congratulatory voicemail a little while ago.

01:23:19.799 --> 01:23:22.844
[SPEAKER_06]: Say I think Jess is trying to silence me.

01:23:22.944 --> 01:23:23.404
[SPEAKER_06]: What?

01:23:23.425 --> 01:23:24.867
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what's going on.

01:23:24.887 --> 01:23:29.073
[SPEAKER_06]: But I sat one after the season finale.

01:23:29.254 --> 01:23:31.798
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought it would be on the wrap-up show, but it wasn't there.

01:23:31.818 --> 01:23:34.542
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's like, okay, it's like the weird.

01:23:34.522 --> 01:23:43.398
[SPEAKER_06]: recording schedule now so they'll be on like the season six episode one one and then wasn't there again so like congratulations Aaron Adam.

01:23:45.642 --> 01:23:55.821
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm caught up basically also I haven't watched episode two of season six yet but my question is since like I'll just ask

01:23:55.801 --> 01:23:58.346
[SPEAKER_06]: because Buffy by obviously I haven't watched season two.

01:23:58.366 --> 01:24:00.991
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if she's been like put off light or whatever.

01:24:01.031 --> 01:24:05.941
[SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna have no issue with Buffy, but I get to put off light because she's like a robot and she's not real.

01:24:06.141 --> 01:24:12.714
[SPEAKER_06]: But that would like go back to my question of like why could it don't sacrifice herself at the end of the last season?

01:24:12.735 --> 01:24:13.997
[SPEAKER_06]: Like she's not real.

01:24:14.057 --> 01:24:15.300
[SPEAKER_06]: She's made up.

01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:18.045
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't it's not a real person guys?

01:24:18.025 --> 01:24:19.106
[SPEAKER_06]: like she's the key.

01:24:19.167 --> 01:24:22.892
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the memories they have, like she's not your sister, Buffy.

01:24:23.112 --> 01:24:25.195
[SPEAKER_06]: So like what's the big deal about killing that?

01:24:25.215 --> 01:24:26.697
[SPEAKER_06]: I know we like Don and stuff.

01:24:27.418 --> 01:24:35.789
[SPEAKER_06]: And like I think it was supposed to be like Buffy's mom dying is like the the point where like death means something, but I still don't get it.

01:24:35.889 --> 01:24:38.333
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the whole like soul not soul thing.

01:24:38.353 --> 01:24:39.274
[SPEAKER_06]: Like

01:24:39.254 --> 01:25:05.515
[SPEAKER_06]: Buffybot is like sort of like on you're like on you know still doesn't know how to be a human and she was like a chaos demon and like we don't kill her You know like I just I know it's like a petty B if I have but it's like it kind of bugs me But yeah, anyways Congratulations Sarah ever would is on Netflix now and Canada are at least an Ontario for me for people that want to watch It's the other pod and then yeah, that's it guys

01:25:06.271 --> 01:25:12.717
[SPEAKER_04]: Lindy see it's we're D. B. K. for so long because Lindy was on the podcast when he talked about Everwood.

01:25:13.078 --> 01:25:15.200
[SPEAKER_02]: It's D. B. K. listening to the Everwood podcast.

01:25:15.220 --> 01:25:15.840
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.

01:25:15.900 --> 01:25:19.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably K. Please tell me if you're, yeah, you got to be listening to them.

01:25:19.924 --> 01:25:25.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I feel as though your feedback about the Everwood podcast would be beautiful.

01:25:25.510 --> 01:25:27.171
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to hear it.

01:25:27.191 --> 01:25:34.118
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like there's a distinct difference between a robot that's been programmed and like,

01:25:34.098 --> 01:25:39.184
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, a non-real, like, right, she wasn't originally real, but she's real now.

01:25:39.285 --> 01:25:41.087
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you cut Dawn, she bleeds.

01:25:41.928 --> 01:25:42.368
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

01:25:42.749 --> 01:25:44.631
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, we should just free buffet.

01:25:44.972 --> 01:25:45.633
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to do it.

01:25:45.653 --> 01:25:47.194
[SPEAKER_03]: We did, she got torn apart.

01:25:47.695 --> 01:25:49.217
[SPEAKER_00]: We could put her back together, right?

01:25:49.517 --> 01:25:51.260
[SPEAKER_00]: But we got her whole hand ripped off.

01:25:52.741 --> 01:25:56.867
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, Lauren was talking for days with his head off.

01:25:56.887 --> 01:25:59.670
[SPEAKER_04]: So true, though, Lauren is still an icon by the way.

01:25:59.710 --> 01:26:01.152
[SPEAKER_04]: I still adore him.

01:26:01.351 --> 01:26:02.013
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, of course.

01:26:02.574 --> 01:26:07.047
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the robot technology in Sunnydale is top tier.

01:26:07.308 --> 01:26:12.563
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they could, honestly, I believe they could do anything, even if it's damaged beyond repair.

01:26:12.703 --> 01:26:14.809
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that exists in Sunnydale.

01:26:14.850 --> 01:26:16.795
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they can fix or if they want to.

01:26:16.775 --> 01:26:17.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:26:17.777 --> 01:26:20.401
[SPEAKER_00]: Fix Buffy Bot, free her tail.

01:26:20.441 --> 01:26:21.823
[SPEAKER_00]: We need more Buffy Bot.

01:26:21.843 --> 01:26:22.705
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Buffy Bot.

01:26:22.845 --> 01:26:23.246
[SPEAKER_04]: I did too.

01:26:23.286 --> 01:26:23.947
[SPEAKER_04]: I think she's fun.

01:26:24.007 --> 01:26:26.331
[SPEAKER_04]: Although I think it would be a little weird for real Buffy now.

01:26:26.691 --> 01:26:27.493
[SPEAKER_04]: That's like Buffy Bot.

01:26:27.673 --> 01:26:29.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Your stance, D.B.K.

01:26:29.436 --> 01:26:36.708
[SPEAKER_00]: on what's the point of Don, like she's fake anyway, is Adam's exact sentiments, by the way.

01:26:37.068 --> 01:26:39.913
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very harsh, but it's very D.B.K.

01:26:39.893 --> 01:26:49.879
[SPEAKER_04]: They think that like they think she's real and so it, you know, if that makes every piece with someone that makes her real like they are fake memories.

01:26:49.899 --> 01:26:56.316
[SPEAKER_04]: They're fake memories, but the feelings and emotions you have towards her are real.

01:26:58.253 --> 01:27:00.256
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have any family anymore now.

01:27:00.336 --> 01:27:01.458
[SPEAKER_04]: Why are you getting rid of dawn?

01:27:01.498 --> 01:27:03.020
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you don't have you don't have a mom.

01:27:03.040 --> 01:27:08.248
[SPEAKER_04]: Your dad's fucking doing who knows what the fuck and like Puerto Rico or some fucking other place.

01:27:08.268 --> 01:27:08.869
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not home.

01:27:08.889 --> 01:27:09.450
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not here.

01:27:09.510 --> 01:27:11.092
[SPEAKER_04]: He's fucking no.

01:27:11.172 --> 01:27:12.615
[SPEAKER_04]: He's in what did you say?

01:27:12.635 --> 01:27:13.176
[SPEAKER_04]: Where was he?

01:27:13.516 --> 01:27:14.518
[SPEAKER_04]: You thought he was somewhere.

01:27:14.638 --> 01:27:15.419
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where it was.

01:27:15.860 --> 01:27:22.389
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he I think he was in like Milan or like some sort of Italian place, but I don't think he's there anymore.

01:27:22.450 --> 01:27:23.451
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they he's

01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:29.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he moved places, but I don't know if he's not in Sunnydale.

01:27:29.185 --> 01:27:29.966
[SPEAKER_04]: We know that much.

01:27:30.206 --> 01:27:33.269
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, buffing needs all the family she got, okay?

01:27:33.289 --> 01:27:34.931
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't be stripping Dawn away from her now.

01:27:34.971 --> 01:27:35.611
[SPEAKER_04]: We like her.

01:27:35.652 --> 01:27:36.472
[SPEAKER_04]: We like Susie.

01:27:37.814 --> 01:27:38.014
[SPEAKER_04]: Susie.

01:27:38.034 --> 01:27:38.494
[SPEAKER_04]: Susie.

01:27:38.775 --> 01:27:39.395
[SPEAKER_04]: Never forget.

01:27:39.535 --> 01:27:39.896
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:40.016 --> 01:27:40.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Susie summers.

01:27:42.138 --> 01:27:43.219
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great name.

01:27:43.519 --> 01:27:44.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, teens.

01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:46.562
[SPEAKER_00]: That's Susie summers is a fantastic.

01:27:46.582 --> 01:27:47.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good name.

01:27:48.144 --> 01:27:48.664
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

01:27:49.285 --> 01:27:52.408
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's fake.

01:27:52.388 --> 01:27:55.113
[SPEAKER_00]: still trying to figure out what's going on.

01:27:55.133 --> 01:27:58.900
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that we should put Buffybot offline.

01:27:59.161 --> 01:28:04.211
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she should come back, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Buffybot again.

01:28:05.754 --> 01:28:05.854
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:28:05.874 --> 01:28:07.417
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:28:07.437 --> 01:28:11.324
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, next week, season 6 episode 4, flooded.

01:28:13.889 --> 01:28:14.310
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

01:28:15.132 --> 01:28:15.392
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:28.003
[SPEAKER_00]: It's at her and um, spike finally got on head on my basement and puppy's basement gets flooded.

01:28:28.804 --> 01:28:31.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, baby.

01:28:31.450 --> 01:28:38.123
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, because if they're in like California, like the California, you're much rain.

01:28:38.407 --> 01:28:39.629
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's fucking hell loud.

01:28:39.669 --> 01:28:47.760
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, but then if that's a thing, like a tone-mouth, they do, there's like some sort of curse by my blood.

01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:50.464
[SPEAKER_00]: What no, let me see my thing.

01:28:50.704 --> 01:28:50.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

01:28:52.006 --> 01:28:58.655
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a, like, a weather demon, like curses Sunnydale.

01:28:58.675 --> 01:29:01.139
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a good irrigation system.

01:29:01.539 --> 01:29:02.921
[SPEAKER_00]: So Sunnydale was flooded.

01:29:02.941 --> 01:29:08.008
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, ooh, it's like that's seen from

01:29:08.866 --> 01:29:10.327
[SPEAKER_01]: No, is that right?

01:29:10.467 --> 01:29:11.749
[SPEAKER_01]: Jumanji.

01:29:14.011 --> 01:29:15.532
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to get the haters mad.

01:29:15.792 --> 01:29:17.274
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to get a mad, Sarah.

01:29:17.294 --> 01:29:18.855
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Jumanji.

01:29:19.396 --> 01:29:20.397
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, don't touch me.

01:29:20.697 --> 01:29:22.939
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Jumanji.

01:29:23.099 --> 01:29:24.160
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Jumanji.

01:29:24.180 --> 01:29:25.521
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get them so mad.

01:29:26.442 --> 01:29:27.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:29:27.123 --> 01:29:32.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is like such an old reference, but once of my time when Don't you agree?

01:29:32.808 --> 01:29:33.188
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:29:33.308 --> 01:29:35.370
[SPEAKER_00]: We covered Jumanji.

01:29:35.390 --> 01:29:36.291
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:29:37.553 --> 01:29:47.253
[SPEAKER_00]: the movie and some guy called Jamungi guy sent us a voicemail and he tells us it's Jamungi!

01:29:47.433 --> 01:29:52.423
[SPEAKER_00]: He tells me for like three minutes about the pronunciation of

01:29:53.551 --> 01:29:55.834
[SPEAKER_00]: It was on the inch.

01:29:55.915 --> 01:29:56.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:29:56.235 --> 01:29:57.016
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

01:29:57.036 --> 01:29:57.317
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

01:29:57.817 --> 01:29:58.518
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

01:29:58.538 --> 01:29:59.079
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

01:29:59.099 --> 01:30:00.361
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still call it.

01:30:00.481 --> 01:30:01.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Jamunji.

01:30:01.383 --> 01:30:03.386
[SPEAKER_00]: It's wrong.

01:30:04.147 --> 01:30:08.794
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it else is kind of like water and like the meat and could be a flood.

01:30:09.435 --> 01:30:09.835
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:30:09.875 --> 01:30:10.436
[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.

01:30:10.456 --> 01:30:11.678
[SPEAKER_00]: Booze.

01:30:13.784 --> 01:30:14.706
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to have it.

01:30:15.669 --> 01:30:17.895
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and he's not gonna have it, he's just having it.

01:30:18.376 --> 01:30:23.811
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, the Angel episode is a season three episode for Carpay, Knockedham.

01:30:25.394 --> 01:30:26.676
[SPEAKER_04]: like the names of the angel.

01:30:26.796 --> 01:30:30.101
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, I don't know.

01:30:30.141 --> 01:30:31.282
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

01:30:31.483 --> 01:30:31.943
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

01:30:31.983 --> 01:30:34.146
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not as like nighttime.

01:30:34.307 --> 01:30:37.191
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I see a night of sees the day.

01:30:37.251 --> 01:30:38.032
[SPEAKER_02]: It sees the night.

01:30:38.052 --> 01:30:38.132
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

01:30:38.452 --> 01:30:39.614
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a vampire.

01:30:39.634 --> 01:30:39.954
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:30:40.015 --> 01:30:41.076
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't like it.

01:30:41.096 --> 01:30:42.037
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not funny.

01:30:42.398 --> 01:30:43.139
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.

01:30:43.419 --> 01:30:44.621
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, it's fine.

01:30:44.721 --> 01:30:46.844
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm trying my best.

01:30:46.944 --> 01:30:47.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:30:47.064 --> 01:30:48.887
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the boys think it's funny.

01:30:49.036 --> 01:31:01.942
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, why don't we put the poison, okay, I don't care, um, because it's a boy's show, it's very fat man-coded, uh, that's everything, Lindy, tell us what else you have going on, D.B.K.

01:31:01.962 --> 01:31:04.868
[SPEAKER_04]: kind of did a plug for you over for ever would.

01:31:05.168 --> 01:31:05.729
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:31:05.849 --> 01:31:06.610
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Steve.

01:31:06.630 --> 01:31:06.730
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:31:06.750 --> 01:31:07.030
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:31:07.090 --> 01:31:12.236
[SPEAKER_02]: So I am podcasting right now about ever would over on one indescribable podcast.

01:31:12.256 --> 01:31:14.077
[SPEAKER_02]: That's with me Todd and Adam.

01:31:14.538 --> 01:31:21.065
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always a ton of fun and, you know, Jess and Sarah pop up on there as a guest sometimes.

01:31:21.585 --> 01:31:28.152
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a ton of fun and, you know, I'm on whirlwind podcast doing previous little liars, which is Sarah's favorite podcast.

01:31:28.653 --> 01:31:30.535
[SPEAKER_02]: So check that out.

01:31:30.852 --> 01:31:52.945
[SPEAKER_00]: It literally is, I go in early, so like they record, obviously, I hear part of it in my house, but when they're done recording, I log into our recording software website and I listen to it while they're recording their everwood podcast.

01:31:52.925 --> 01:31:55.209
[SPEAKER_00]: you listen to it during the recording?

01:31:55.610 --> 01:32:15.844
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:32:16.752 --> 01:32:21.536
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I think I was doing something else, but I do it every single week.

01:32:21.937 --> 01:32:22.417
[SPEAKER_04]: Incredible.

01:32:23.718 --> 01:32:38.191
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you can hear me at you have me at podcast, a previously called you had me pod this week, Stewart and I are covering a lot like love, which is in my opinion a very underrated romantic comedy that he will probably fucking hate.

01:32:38.651 --> 01:32:42.254
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to go listen to a giant argument, that's probably going to happen.

01:32:42.274 --> 01:32:43.215
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just forecasting.

01:32:43.295 --> 01:32:46.658
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you, have you considered forgetting Sarah Marshall?

01:32:47.228 --> 01:33:06.908
[SPEAKER_00]: uh that definitely was one we talked about doing i think we're now passed it though because it's we already did our odds oh now i know what i did last night i watched the vampire musical parts segments of that movie but only those parts of the movie

01:33:07.681 --> 01:33:11.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, can I, what a life you live sometimes.

01:33:13.889 --> 01:33:15.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Watched those parts.

01:33:15.431 --> 01:33:17.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't want to watch the rest of the movie.

01:33:17.514 --> 01:33:20.819
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to watch the vampire musical parts.

01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:25.304
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I tell you I'm now through season three of vampire diaries?

01:33:25.665 --> 01:33:26.466
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.

01:33:26.446 --> 01:33:27.708
[SPEAKER_04]: It's I can't either.

01:33:27.728 --> 01:33:31.055
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really fucking can't.

01:33:32.017 --> 01:33:33.219
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an epidemic anyway.

01:33:34.201 --> 01:33:36.044
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm watching a lot of vampire content.

01:33:37.106 --> 01:33:38.809
[SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, that's everything.

01:33:39.330 --> 01:33:42.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Vampire musical from forgetting Sarah Marshall.

01:33:42.156 --> 01:33:43.759
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch the whole movie.

01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:48.528
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the movie, but I just want to see the musical part of vampire part.

01:33:48.748 --> 01:33:49.129
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:33:49.987 --> 01:33:50.448
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

01:33:50.468 --> 01:33:51.790
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's probably everything.

01:33:52.190 --> 01:33:55.956
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so thank you all for listening and sending in feedback as always.

01:33:56.056 --> 01:33:58.220
[SPEAKER_04]: We love you all so, so, so much.

01:33:58.480 --> 01:34:01.124
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to be back next time with some more Buffy.

01:34:01.144 --> 01:34:09.717
[SPEAKER_04]: So, until then, everyone here, and if the listen.