Sept. 6, 2025
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 5 Episode 3 - The Replacement

Join Sara Fergenson (@sarafergenson) and Jess Sterling (@thejesssterling) as they chat about Season 5 Episode 3 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Replacement. They discuss Sloppy Xander vs Khaki Xander, trouble in Ruffy paradise, and the Lasagna relationship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before Just be how never ended with those All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need a partner for a ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 There's a need to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shit 90's shows taught me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's shows taught me was not filmed before live studio audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready to play another day?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are we.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Shit 90's shows taught me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm justirling here with my co-host, Sarah, I'm pretty Sarah, how are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just... I'm good, because there's only one of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And thankfully, there's not two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't have a secret twin out there, hiding something to start on the show with you, I'm like, worst case scenario, I think I don't know how twins do it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a special breed of person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've only seen twins be like super, like codependent and like camp, spend a second, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: can't spend a second away from each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go to college together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like the same major together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They like get the same job at the same school or have seen them hate each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if there's no in between, like you're either a writer, die, twin or like I fucking he issue, you stole my face twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, this was an interesting episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I very much come around on Sander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've witnessed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like people understand I do not despise him at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it was, I thought it had an interesting message.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also for me being kind of like a, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a right, like I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched it twice, so I've had like double the amount
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had a twin experience, had a twin experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like a goofy zany episode, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is so cold on it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as we found out that the actor, Nicholas Branden, I think it is, was a twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it was, you know, prophesized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, this would happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know that was going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was fun to see it in in person and I think that you know I watched it with our friend Todd he was at our house while we were watching in of course my questions always gravity towards logistics like how did they do that which one is like Nicholas Brendan which one is the twin at what point and from my understanding of what he said is that whenever
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was one zander, even if it was confident zander or not confident zander, it was Nicholas Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when it was both of them, then obviously both the twins were there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I assume that when it was both of them sloppy zander, it was the real actor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume so, that's what my assumption is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just about the perspective like we followed for a lot of it was like we were led to believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also for the for going forward this episode, I am referring to them as sloppy zander, which is the zander that wears like the Hawaiian shirt and it's like a little bit of a mess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have khaki zander, which is like the zander that is put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the scoobies of the world call him confidence ander, but if you want to call him khakis ander, I can't help but notice the khakis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go down the path with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right, because especially because of how big
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[SPEAKER_00]: sloppy sander was acting versus like how even killed khaki sander was and I feel like it was probably a lot easier because his for my understanding his twin is not an actor by any means but yeah um this is like his own his only acting opportunity so uh but they look I mean their twins they look exactly alike I was trying to like pinpoint like if I am my opinion
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[SPEAKER_00]: even like the most twins of twins have differences like Tian Tamara like their identical except for like the freckle, which by the way, do you guys think they don't talk anymore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to be really weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there might be, like, at this moment, they might be trying to reconnect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not quite sure, but they were like no contact for years to end tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know, it's so strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, you're either super close or you hate your twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like those two identical, like, say for the beauty mark, which I believe is tomorrow, if I'm correct, or it's to ya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know them well enough to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, American Ashley Olsen as we well know are fraternal twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they look like twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like sisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, as much as Elizabeth looks like them and Elizabeth does look like them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is there any other famous twins?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like not thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't think of any other famous twins, but there was one that was in in smallville and him and his brother, and they were the like X men, I don't know their names, but like they are twins who both act as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sure they.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is like a thing is, if you're a part of a set of twins and you both like to act, I feel like you are more likely to get specific types of auditions because there's only so many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay, so of course I'm forgetting about Dylan and Cole Sprouse who are very famous twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, I think, like, there's a very good
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[SPEAKER_00]: pipeline of being a child's actor to being like twins as a child actor because of course there's like child labor laws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, but then they got the opportunity of like Zack and Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they look alike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know one of them was blonde and one of them had black hair for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Dylan was the one that was blonde and Cole was the one that had the dark hair for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was kind of chunky, no offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan, he had baby face when they were younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God, Benji and Joel Madden, their twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, singers, not actors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we saying celebrities in general?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I typed in celebrity twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's all the twins that I can report on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is twin talk, this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, twin talk, wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's in as a twin, no way, who is a twin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scarlett Johansson?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I knew that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my, oh, you know, who else is a twin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an actor from yellow jackets who is an identical twin and they look like an identical opos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Garo Johancin has a twin, but he's a brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's, that's not, when talk, the one thing I, I'm very grateful that this episode did bring us is we got Zander out of the dank basement, which is very exciting, although even from minute one of this episode, I was like, how the fuck is he still living here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where is on your living?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't they live together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is Riley living?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, whether there are people who are unaccounted for that we could have pair up a Zander as a rooming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have the same the same questions and I believe we did see on your apartment this episode or her home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just like a room, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very red.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sensual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the same thought because I was like, why isn't he moving in with Ania?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why does Ania demand that he gets an apartment when she has something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, he did see the he got the apartment for Ania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe Ania will eventually move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in with him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, but like, I got to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know we love Ania and we stand on a slow annoyed with her this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she has a lot of demands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand part of it is her being mortal and she's injured and she feels like, okay, I'm going to die soon, whatever, whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's having a little bit of a crisis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, girl, you get a job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, girl, you move in my sander and help him pay the rent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she had a lot of demands for someone who's really not helping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is true that she did that's very true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think of that because I was more focused on kind of her other storyline of just like having the actualization that you're human and therefore you're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not immortal and will live forever, which is like probably a very scary thought for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a very scary thought for all of us, but you're right, like she does have a lot of development, but I would say like
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[SPEAKER_00]: All girl, good girlies do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just should have high expectations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also just that I feel like I really hate when I watch a show where one partner in the relationship is like you have to get the nicest apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it puts you in debt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you can't afford it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: lower your expectations as smidge on you if you're not going to then like also help because he is trying he's actively trying yeah that is true he is trying I think that you're you're you're losing the comedy of on you have I'm yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you are forgetting why we love her, which is the very blunt and like say the thing that's on top of your mind and like very dramatized version of a character that we find very funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're thinking a little bit more rooted in reality you want on yet to get a nine to five as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want on yet to do something to do to do something to make some money to contribute something if she's going to be so hard on zander because I don't like it's really fair to be like zander get jobs zander by me things like girl what are what are you doing like what are you doing
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not her fault that all her experience is messing with men and that that does not typically like fund you and she had to have made some money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume because how can she afford anything that she has her apartment like but I don't know are those like demons down under giving her were were they giving her like a stipend to do any of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not quite sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say like the honest stuff that I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the storyline that we're getting of her feeling her mortality, now that she's been hurt, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I mean, we all kind of feel this, um, and Zanders has as much we all feel this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all feel our mortality at certain times having some crises of like we only have so many years to live and there's not enough time to do everything we want and we're behind and right, all of those, you'll be very real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I love the comedy of, of, on your wanting to fuck both Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what them that did very much crack me up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we're going to ask the question if you have the opportunity to be with two of your husbands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you take that opportunity?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too weird for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm such a sick fuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little too weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very weird, but she elicit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you trick at all by, like, did you think that one of the, like, the khaki demon was?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his name was Neon teeth, is what I named him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: down to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course I was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it was like pretty kind and dry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really have much question especially because of how serious that fake khaki standards and I'm a fake that khaki standards was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really did think that like it was either like a demon or a shapeshifter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really impressed by the twist that like no it's like two halves of the same person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, the only thing that's sad, it's just like, okay, so sloppy zander is all the undesirable features of zander and put together khaki zander is all the good features of zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of felt like that was kind of sad because, I mean, I guess I know, like I think that like obviously
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[SPEAKER_00]: copy zander has all of like zanders like sense of humor and his like probably more of like no mainly just his sense of humor I would say because I was going to say like his like
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[SPEAKER_00]: his charisma, but I really do think that, like, it's like self-deprecating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I wouldn't say that like, necessarily, Sloppy'sander got zero good treats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also, I think he has heart too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like we've talked a lot about Zander and and being the heart of the group and kind of all that stuff, but and he does like ultimately it takes him a minute to get there, but he's like, oh, this Zander wants on ya, I need to go save her, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he does have heart, he does have feeling his love for his friends, like he has all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just packaged in a sloppier way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, like, slopp sticky, that zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to be honest with you, I've never been more attracted to khaki zander in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, oh, you're like, very put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, you, you were a man with a job and you were a man that can get things done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was like, I'm like attracted to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Anio was as well, which once again,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many of like zanders like sweet qualities are coming from the more less desirable end and I feel as though like maybe Ania really does want like zander as more of like khakis and I don't know like she really does love all of him but I just think that she felt more like oh the zanders like a better
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[SPEAKER_00]: having this like serious talk with her right like when they're in a very apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like listen like we're all we all feel our mortality like you're not alone in this, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was being very sweet and I think again he is still zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just in a more put together package and I also think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which ever zander each of our characters were approached by first was the one they were believing and so like it's not I don't think it's anything against her for like not you know wanting when the sloppy zander comes in and has the gun she's like what no kill him kill it it's gross
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the scoobies, you know, we're thinking Kacky'sander was quote unquote reelsander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like Willow was like, no, sloppy sander is reelsander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think whichever one approached them first was kind of the one that they were like, oh, you must be the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they all both are the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really went into the twist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, were you surprised by that twist as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they got me, like, I guess, so I wasn't shocked when we found out that it was like only half of him, but that I think the reason they had me going for so long was the the coin that like, they got with he was like tricking people, they thought he was like a manipulating them or you know, what is it called?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you like, you know, getting in their heads with this like coin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, flight of hand, trickery type of thing, what Bobber, it was also pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, no, it's just something shiny that I found on the ground, which is very zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it all, it very much worked for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just think we're at a very interesting point now, where we have a couple different relationships on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tara is not in this episode, so we don't really need to speak on the Tara and Willow of it all,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the Zander and Agna relationship, the lasagna shippers, as we like to say, and then we have the ruffy side of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting that Zander seems, again, he's not jealous in that he wants to be with Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely wants to be with Agna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be, so he's like jealous of their bond of ruffy's bond and their relationship and how solid they are and just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was interesting to hear from Riley that that is not how he sees them, um, because I think now I'm trying to remember I don't know, no they both have said I love you to each other right Riley and Buffy have said it back so I thought so I thought it was really really interesting and I think it's very much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now I think we see this law in social media where you see a couple on social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're always posting and you're like, they are the perfect couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're so beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, every, like, they're traveling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everything is amazing for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you sit there and you compare your own relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with this couple, those perceived to be perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then next to you, no, that perfect couple is no longer together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in reality, you and your relationship that has flaws, that maybe people look at your relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, that's the perfect relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I was just like them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're the staple one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is kind of something very similar without the Instagram reels of the thing, because it's just kind of the same story
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I very much think it's like that and for Zander, a lot of his stuff is coming from insecurities because he's like, oh, I just saw Amya really attracted to this put together version, which means that I'm probably just not good enough and her eyes, but like, you know, you like, you like every single bit of each other, you and Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought it was really interesting about what Riley was saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like once again, like I, I, I really, really like Riley and I think that he's just like, just all of it, it just like very much like hones and then who Riley is, which is Midwestern nice to see that man help zander and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, onya moosh it out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that is a Midwestern man in moving shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know like a lot of people help their friends move, but like it is just like very much very much that like the fact that like I don't know they the they were
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[SPEAKER_00]: right and together it's just like very I just like really really like him and I really like what he was saying to Buffy like I like because Buffy also is like do you ever wish that I was just Buffy and not Buffy the Slayer and I loved that Riley was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love all of you, like I love like that you're interesting and you are the slayer and that you're an incredible fighter and I think that like if it wasn't if you weren't all of you then you wouldn't be you and yeah, I love all of you and I don't know exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why he feels that Buffy doesn't in love with him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he knows that Buffy loves him, but he probably doesn't think that Buffy's in love with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's probably one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm trying to be like, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like their sexual chemistry is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're always on top of each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like there's a lack of passion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like does he think he compares himself to how Buffy
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[SPEAKER_00]: the entire world was surrounding angel for her, like her entire world revolved around angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why do you think that Riley thinks that Buffy is not in love with her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, clearly, he's in love with Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's in love with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it's necessarily that moment where she said, like, I love you and she didn't say a back in that moment because I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm pretty sure that she said I love you before to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't disagree with you about the kind of Instagram, sort of relationship they have on some levels, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where two different times this episode, they're making out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, the thing is, is they're not,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's very different than this like curated relationship that you see online of people where they only post the good things because that's face it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you post the hard moments you're not going to like hey you're crying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm crying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's whip a camera out and take a photo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I see that a lot on from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, youtubers are like it's just like it's just you don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: admit the flaws in your relationship for public consumption generally speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but two different times, they are making out for no one other than themselves, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when they're making on in Buffy's room and Dawn starts gagging, first of all, uh, shout out to Susie Cue, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is rising in my rankings for that gag, because I thought it was hysterical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a type of very younger sister of her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, I did love the quip from Joyce about both of them working together to give her a headache or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a really good little mom quip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so there's that moment where they're like making out in her bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they're looking at zanders new place, they're like instantly go into a bedroom and start making out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, like these aren't like show boating eight gouts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing them off to the side on their own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: obviously physicality and physical closeness does not equate to intimacy does not equate to love necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's just a good thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a green flag rather than a red flag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't quite know why Riley feels this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if Riley is saying this, the show is also by proxy kind of saying this, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if Riley feels,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that she does not feel the same way does not feel as strongly as he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That means the show is telling us is raising this red flag of like, this is something to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't quite know why he feels that way, because as much as I don't particularly find rally very interesting, again, I agree with you, he's a good boyfriend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that and also not find him interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never really gotten that vibe from Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is this an insecurity of Riley's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so because like he's never really
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a couple moments here and there are a couple comments he's made in terms of knowing she's had a prior relationship with a vampire in Angel and write all that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's never been, it never has felt like it's been a huge hurdle for him to overcome in terms of, well, she dated in a mortal vampire, why would she want to date me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he has not really ever shown that insecurity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really know where this is coming from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm interested to see where it goes because it does seem like the show is raising it as a red flag and I'm interested to see if they have evidence to then back that up or like if or even if they show us it's all in Riley's head right like I don't care as long as they go on to explain it a bit more because for me it was very surprising like it came out of essentially nowhere for him to say this when
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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally two other times the episode they're making out and everything seems fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing that is off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we are we are eagle eyed viewers at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of Buffy the show and television in general, you know, we have our eyes out for kind of these these vibes these, you know, the things that the show is trying to flag for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just haven't been I haven't felt what he was expressing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then it makes me feel like if we're not seeing it, then it's stemming from him and his head, his own securities, insecurities, does he not feel like he's good enough for Buffy or for the slayer or for like somebody that's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that much of a leader or like that much of a celebrity and like or whatever he's not she's not really a celebrity but you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's like Tories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like and like now he doesn't he doesn't have a job like he's not the leader like he's coming from a place where like he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the leader of the the initiative like I like he was like top dog now he's like knocked back down like is there were worlds where he just doesn't feel good enough and when you don't feel good enough and you don't feel like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you are deserving of somebody, whether obviously it's not true, then your brain starts telling you stories of like, well, then she sees it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't think I'm good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't think, she's projecting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying, like, I'm not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a leader anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: a career anymore or goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she doesn't think that I can keep up with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she doesn't think that I'm good enough to be with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that's the only thing that I can come up with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's feeling these things about himself, which is giving him insecurities and then he is projecting those feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on to her because he doesn't love himself anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he doesn't love himself anymore, if he doesn't feel worthy of love, then she might not must not love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a real relationship killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you have told yourself that like you're unlovable and there's no way that your partner can possibly love you, even though that's not true, you are killing your relationship
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it doesn't even matter if it's true, you're telling yourself it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like a big thing that I think is, a big learning moment for most anybody in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a long time to learn, but if you don't love yourself, as Rupal says, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you need to accept who you are, and maybe like we all have flaws, and we all have things we're working on, and we all have like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, traits about ourselves that we don't like, but you have to get past those and learn to accept yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are going to be able to put out love towards somebody else and receive love from somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe that's the story they're telling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like, okay, we're three episodes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just like a, it is a flag that like, I feel like is being waived at us as far as like pay attention to this, because this could be how we're setting up the end of the roughy relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, that ends, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it ends in Riley, sacrificing himself, or them just having a normal, you know, kind of break up, who knows how it ends, but it feels like they are signaling something to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're three episodes, and so we're still very early on, but like Buffy is very, very focused right now on learning the slayer lore right learning about the first layer learning about who she is and is that something that is then going to come in the way of her being in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: relationship, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like her wanting to work on herself so much that it just and we've seen like right, she's had a few different moments where she's like, oh, Riley, we had plans, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go like, yeah, and that's saying, this is not me like, you know, chastizing Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think she's doing what she has to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just sometimes timing isn't right for relationships.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and talking about kind of the other side of things with Ania and Zander, it does feel like they're moving in an even better direction now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like with him having this new apartment, she like, she doesn't want either Zander to kill the other one once she's like, I don't know, like I don't know which one is the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I felt like there was a tiny thing
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[SPEAKER_00]: the sloppy zander says to willow will we need to save on you like he's trying to get to on you and willow's like kind of took yam in it to get there like was that an inflack at all or is it just like a quip i mean i didn't feel like that was very fair
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a duplicate of you, like, come on with the guy a break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really see that as a red flag, like, uh, like, willow did, willow would take any opportunity to, like, kind of dunk on on you on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: continues to be irritating for me and like maybe that's just because like I really like lasagna, like I don't really like, you know, when below naysays their relationship or like oniam particular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like I kind of felt like that was like a weird
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[SPEAKER_00]: comment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose like, yeah, like maybe he could have gotten there a little bit sooner, but also, yeah, like he has like a lot going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is also not the best version of himself, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't have a version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: like cacky for like presenters version of like logic and like problem solving, which comes with like his military background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, big, his fake military background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like maybe if he did have that sort of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: problem-solving aspect to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would have gotten there a little bit sooner so I don't really know if I falten for that, especially because like he did get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't, it wasn't like Willow is like what about Anja?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, oh wait, yes, I have girlfriend Anja, like it's not like he did that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't necessarily think that it was super fair, but yeah, I think that's the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the pros outweighed the cons in terms of, okay, yes, there was that one tiny quip from Willow, but like he had, again, this was a real version of Zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kaki was part of Zander, but this really lovely conversation with her and like about her mortality, about how he also feels that way and how he wants to for them to go through it together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both, you had to remember, I'm telling myself, you or I know this, but I have to remember, it's both parts of him, these are all him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he does think about that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both Sanders, we're caring about Ania, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because while we originally thought Kackie Sanders is trying to talk to Ania to like, get her in whatever, no, he was trying to warn her because he thought Sloppy'sander was a bad zander, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, it's I think I'm I'm liking what I'm seeing of of lasagna and I think as much as on your tative like ever so slightly early on in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we I think there is a very tough line to toe when it comes to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pushing and motivating your partner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are times when it can be detrimental to push too hard because I think there's a difference between lifting them up and showing them they have potential and pushing them so hard that they feel like they can never live up to your expectations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's a hard balance and I once again I think it's very much like know your partner like I myself get a little spiteful when I get pushed because I I don't want you to think that you my partner to think that I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want to get places on my own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so like you telling me to do something often means that like I want to rebel against that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you tell me to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, I'm not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that like know your partner, but like my partner loves to get motivated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he like really likes it when I'm like, hey, like, you know, you should, for example,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 30 miles on the bike today, you should do 35 like he loves that shit because he sees it as a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see that shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, so you don't think that my 30 is good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that could do 30 miles on a bike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just would never recover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he does though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did 35 miles on the bike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're fucking insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I get very much like, oh, you don't think that like my shit's good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, so I think if you're right in your partner,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is definitely a, it is know what the line is for each individual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like be careful not to push too hard because like, it's, I'm not saying, you don't want, you don't want to be in a relationship where you're like, I can fix him, but you also don't want to be in a relationship where you just have unrealistic expectations and like you to a certain extent, you have to accept the person that you are with, uh, words and all flaws and all, um, and I think you're in a good
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you think the onion does that like do you think that she wants Xander to change because like I don't know, she is always I don't know like she's always very much like as long as he's doing something she seems pretty pleased like she doesn't seem like dissatisfied that he's a construction worker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, she's dissatisfied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He still lives in his parents' basement, which I'm not saying she should be like accepting of, but I think there's a different stepping stone between like having a really crappy apartment in your parents' basement and finding a realistic apartment that you can afford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a middle ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's kind of pushing it over the line in my opinion at least a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think she cares about Zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she is proud of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's also just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's learning how to communicate with like her feelings and on top of that, we literally just talked about like, you know, accepting who you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she is still coming to terms with being mortal and being in stuck in a human body when she lived thousands of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, when we think about the grand scheme of Ania's life, she has not spent a ton of time in this part of her life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, it took, it could take her years to get used to something, you know, decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all moved very fast for her, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to have realistic expectations for her as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think I'm very impressed with both Zander and Ananya in terms of how they've matured in this relationship together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is the first relationship we've really seen where they've from for Zander specifically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, they have pushed each other in a good way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've brought out the best in each other, which is kind of ideal in a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I totally agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, I didn't, I might have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of their thoughts about Ania, but I can't seem to remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of never mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if it comes back to you, so Nianti, if we might as well just go through him real quick, Toth, he wants to kill Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He ends up going to Toto Toto with Giles very briefly, which is very funny when Giles likes him with a statue that was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they do end up killing him by the end of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he is just very much like a monster of the week,
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[SPEAKER_00]: long-term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, easy peasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very easy laddle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that the totem was really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that the thought of splitting them and if you kill one you kill the other, I thought that was really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the plan was a good plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like let me split up the slayer, Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will take on the weak Buffy, which will kill the slayer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is a decent
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you and your neon teeth and how continue to come up with decent plans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he does want to take her out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to take her out, but he wants to bring her to the melting pot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to take her out of the date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy, show her a little bit of his beautiful bright smile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like seeing Giles have to kind of stand his own ground and like what he comes up with, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think is very fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have a ton to do, but we do get like, again, another set piece in the in the magic shop, which is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love to kind of get that that set a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get used to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get comfy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like like the magic shop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like our new digs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've really up there budget here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got new new local
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is, I feel like spike, they don't know what to do with spike at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, okay, this man, this man, he needs a girlfriend or like a hobby or something because he's like playing with mannequins, like, my guy, he's digging through trash, like it's really sad though, like he actually needs something to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they need to yada yada this and just get him to be part of the Scooby's full time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, I'm ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what you have to do to just get over your baggage, but we gotta get you on the Scooby's because yeah, I know it's going to happen eventually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just like go, let's do it already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel sad for him at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's literally like playing with dolls like a little mannequin with a wig on it like he needs something to do like if I think it would be extra fun if like harmony turns out to be our big bad because I didn't forget that she got away and is able to get into Buffy's house and spike hate harmony so much that he like joins up with the school days and there's a harmony so much I don't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a love-hate thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's annoyed by her at the very least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he wants her to, maybe what they'll do is harmony wants to take out Buffy, and he's like, I am not having a harmony, be the one to take out this layer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is like a bruise to his ego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they need to give something to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, he's very comedic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the comedy moments he brings, but I also feel like he's a little bit aimless at the moment, and I would like to see him kind of given something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else about the replacement?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, once again, I think it was really cool that they utilized the fact that the actor is an identical twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it was just something that was bound to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that the line that I thought that really crashed me up in regarding that was like when
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[SPEAKER_00]: Zander said to Willow like, oh, how would you feel if you had like an evil twin going around or whatever and Willow was like, I think I handled it pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought that was like kind of funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was like a couple of like funny lines and I think the Nicholas Brendan did a pretty good job Acting against himself, but also his brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I thought that all in all it was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really well done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I wasn't disappointed by it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, the twist that they were both zander, they're both one half of the same zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good, like it was better than like I would have anticipated, like I think the predictable thing would have been some sort of like shape shifter, but yeah, this was this exceeded my expectations I did like that like it's we are getting some plot progression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, even though it is a long start the week episode, Zander has new apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have like this question mark of rise relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what I wanted to say about Ania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you think that like a part of Ania's push to get him out of the basement was just because of like the abuse that she witnessed from his parents?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that could be part of it, but I truly do think the majority of it is also just, like, don't be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to spend time down there either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm gonna get like percentage wise, maybe like 70, 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm, listen, she cares about Zander, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I do think most of it is like, this is uncomfortable for both of us, but also I have to spend a lot of time here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, maybe I'm giving her a little bit too much spent at the down like oh yeah, maybe she's just like I know that you're feeling very abused and is scary and they're with all the crashing and the yelling so like let's get you out of here, but yeah, that's probably not it yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I watched it once and only once and we got we're a little delayed in recording so it's it's been a number of days since I I did originally watch it I just didn't feel like it warranted a rewatch honestly like I'm already watching Buffy twice I'm not about to like jump on this angel episode twice unless I have to unless it feels necessary
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my main takeaways, we get a lot more from gun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He becomes like a more realized character in that Cordelia has a vision about him getting hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she is like, I'm not leaving your side because you're going to get hurt and I am like your protector, whatever, but it turns out I thought this was an interesting moment that the danger he was in wasn't anything she just saved him from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because he puts himself an unnecessary danger and he's going to destroy himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I thought that was like an interesting little twist, um, and listen, anytime Cordelia gets to rub it in someone's face that they are wrong and she is right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am here for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then obviously the other big piece of it is Darla, um, coming back into the picture and angel like sleeping a lot because he gets to be with her in his dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can I forget all the sex streams sex streams with Darla?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know what that was excellent No, I mean yeah, like he had like a lot of dreams with Darla and then at one point Darla was like actually in his bedroom like giving him like a little nighttime Blowjob like that was at the yeah, that was at the end of the episode, so I don't know like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because the way I read it, right, like we have Cordelia and a lot of other characters being like angels been sleeping a lot like what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt to me like he was like purposely going to sleep a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that one seat was asleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't wake up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was that he liked his time dreaming about Darla more than he did living his immortal life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's exactly it, which is interesting a little bit of depression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you've got to just when you get the sleepies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you get to cocoon and cocoon is good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like cocooning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see where we go from
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like again, I think this was more of a stepping stone episode of like, yes, gone is here to stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to introduce him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got confirmation that now they are taking over that old hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where angel lives is not we're Cordelia lives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thankfully she still gets to hang out with her little ghosty friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now they're that is like their home base is this hotel now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice establishment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's too much out for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I
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[SPEAKER_00]: agree because if you're going to rely on Cordelia to be the one who's cleaning it like get a meter something that's on her job like stop it yeah they need they need a housekeeper housekeeper yeah she doesn't get paid enough for this nonsense like she has to dust this whole hotel out of here and it's very dusty it's very upsetting very
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the angel episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it was okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping we really get more darlas stuff next episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they're like slowly getting us there, but she was in the episode, beautiful as can be BT Dubs, like just like absolutely stunning in all the dreams that she's like very ethereal because I think they're like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're making kind of blurry and unfocused in a way that makes her look very angelic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously the actor is also incredibly beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really excited to see what they do with Darla and Angel because we always were big fans of Darla and I remember us being like gone too soon in the early days of Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were really upset when they killed her off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was certainly a tragedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's Angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened on Angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, do you want to get into some feedback before we talk about what episodes are next?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got an email from Natalie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just having listened to your latest episode, just a minor correction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As you mentioned, we're now in 2002.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not quite in 2002 yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season one premiered as a midseason replacement early in 97.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season two
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[SPEAKER_00]: 3 was 98 to 99 for was 99 to 2,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're all of 2,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Michelle tracked in work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason that they're saying this is because Michelle tracked in Burgess 15 in when she's playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so very age appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think she looks at each do so it works out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did you catch the reference that like they made where she's like, oh, you're obsessed with like, uh, skating movies?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No skating movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like little like girl skating movies or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember writing me of like the ice princess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michelle, oh, yes, but I just made sense because that movie came out 2005.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so prophecy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a prophecy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of dawn, I'm a little confused about your talking about the show gas letting you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're suddenly calling her Susie and acting like she's new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When obviously Buffy has had a little sister since season one episode one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I seared jokes, Natalie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I seared jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate like Joyce Don wasn't around much in season four when Buffy was mostly on campus and she's grown up a fair amount since season three, but the two of you spent a fair amount during season one through three talking about annoying she was and didn't add any value.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you had so much to say in that three episode arc when Spike drew it in jealous Angelus sorry kidnapped her and kept her hostage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're saying you don't remember any of that someone put a spell on you to and then in parentheses T he goes well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She put a spell on us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, by the way, I love that quick little spell at the end of the episode where she's just like in the spell and then Zander is oh my god, that was so stupid Like that's no joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Zander also being a bad influence on himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was pretty Yeah, they started like with the dick and fart jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's hilarious, Natalie
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, that we forgot that Dawn was there the entire time and all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all time better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like she now that you see that I remember when we used to compare her to Morgan from Boyne's world a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like we would always compare those constant comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we would I mean like Michelle is like a much better actor now, but like when she was a kid kid, I like don't think that she was like screened all
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[SPEAKER_00]: her lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely better now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that has one more thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more additional trivia fact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember reading a long while back, Joss had actually intended to give Buffy a sister who was more like eight to ten years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they ended up going a different round, they didn't amend the script enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hence, we're acting pretty childish for 14 to 15-year-old
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes so much more sense because truly the most unbelievable fact of all of this was like that a 14 year old needs a babysitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what are we doing when I was 14.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was babysitting children.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was babysitting at like 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were the babysitter and not the babysitter sat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was in a very good babysitter, honestly, because I remember one time particular we were playing pretty pretty princess and the kids like took the tiara and I was like you can't take the tiara like you're cheating and she was just like I win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like you do not win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got me to tear a child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little mad because I just planted the tiara.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably, I just didn't like the cheating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also got a message from Michael.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Justin Sarah, I've been getting crushed at work, but I heard the bat signal go out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There aren't a ton of actual crossovers this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The network leaned on that more in season one and tried to get Angel to develop its own viewership more in season two, but here you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have crossovers, sorta question mark, are one nine and 17 and then the connected events are 11 and 22.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so if I need an out that those are the episodes that I watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season two, not of Angel, not my faith, but there is something she'll love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sarah may be back on board for episode nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so episode now I can really just go to sleep until the episode nine is that's what that's what I'm hearing that's um, he says a season three is fine everyone hates season four, but it has some of the best stand alone episodes and some legendary crossovers and season five is a master piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, easily one of the best all around seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it's like, listen, you'll love season five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to watch four seasons to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, balances a soap opera with the supernatural with just the silliest shit and includes at least one of your all-time favorites who just redefines the show entirely in the best possible way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, wish you could just skip to that because the payoff is there, but you got a slog, friends, or just us anyway dot dot dot dot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, keep up the great work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast has been the only thing I've gotten to listen to or watch for fun in the past three weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Michael, thank you so much for your hard hard work and, uh, on both fronts, on both sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to learn how to work your actual job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't really,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also my, well, we hope it eases up for you soon because that sucks camaraderie friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it ends soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We now officially have the crossovers that you will need to watch if you can give up on the others up to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, watch because what else am I doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but yeah, that's that's that's Buffie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our feedback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to send
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love's hearing from all of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a new listener, especially, reach out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know you binged us for whatever insane reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize for anything I said multiple years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to know the title of the next episodes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for a buffee season, five episode four out of my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, maybe this is a Susie power reveal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, like mine powers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they don't wait too long, by the way, before they reveal that, because already, I was like, oh, we're gonna get it this episode and we didn't, and I wanted it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So your you know patients is not one of your best traits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is a success in my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to now I wanted to ask you like what do you like if you had to name like three traits like the best of you and the worst of you had if you were split in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what would be in my sloppy dress and what would be in my jacket dress, yeah?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like, I think that like, my, like, my judginess would be in my, my khaki j- Oh, no, that's my sloppy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your other one, my sloppy, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that like, so like, by judginess, probably like me being like very,
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[SPEAKER_00]: traumatic, like, not sensitive, because I think that sometimes that's a good thing, but like, like, you know, my, like, my, like, me catastrophizing everything, which I guess is like kind
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, like my third bad treat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of bad traits, so it's really hard to cherry-pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my good traits like maybe like my empathy, my like my good listening skills, maybe my like aptitude for finding nice stationery,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is such an important part of your words and I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe that's the breakdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For my sloppy side, probably,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably how critical I am, both of myself and others, I think that can be not great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anxiety is a tough one, because I would put it on the negative side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although one could argue that it's not really a personality trait, although it does sometimes feel like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does inside out say is anxiety one of the core personality traits that's there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, is that is that the guy, yeah, anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the one with the hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the one with the hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I probably like impatience because that could cover like a bunch of things in terms of like, you talking over people or just like not giving enough time for something to develop, you know, that sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as for like the the khaki side, I mean, I feel like I'm decent at like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to bring the positive to things, like trying to remain upbeat, even if I'm not necessarily feeling that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe creativity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like I have a decent bit of that to offer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe by third one would be like, uh, like, I mean, I love animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I always want to help animals, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, hopefully my khaki side wins out in the war between us, you know, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so out of my mind for next week, oh, an angel, uh, untouched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the episode title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So hey, what else up there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't get his attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even in his dreams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, maybe maybe some touching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in his dreams, look at some touches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so that will be next week, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should be back on Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So apologies for the late podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what life happens people, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big party at our house to celebrate Adam and I marriage like we only invited like 13 people to our wedding so then me like through this party during the summer to you know just and
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[SPEAKER_00]: make sure the aunts and uncles are on a depression over the fact that they did not get the anti-essentialing, but like also Adam and I throw like a Labor Day party every year, like it's kind of going to be like our thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had like 60 people at our house and it was just one of the and then I was like hosting a bunch of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of those things really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so tired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so life happens, but we're back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next week as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the meantime, check out everything else we have going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go check out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a wind podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Want to just grab a podcast, just celebrate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 200th episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, wait, are you ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Windsor, I think are five year anniversary just passed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, for the podcast, I think you're right, because we started in August, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, September.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so yeah, let's see, yeah, happy five year anniversary to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Woo, we did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is our gift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A sake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, we'll be back next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll see you on a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before Just be how never ended with those All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need a partner for a ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 There's a need to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shit 90's shows taught me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's shows taught me was not filmed before live studio audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready to play another day?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are we.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Shit 90's shows taught me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm justirling here with my co-host, Sarah, I'm pretty Sarah, how are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just... I'm good, because there's only one of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And thankfully, there's not two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't have a secret twin out there, hiding something to start on the show with you, I'm like, worst case scenario, I think I don't know how twins do it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a special breed of person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've only seen twins be like super, like codependent and like camp, spend a second, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: can't spend a second away from each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go to college together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like the same major together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They like get the same job at the same school or have seen them hate each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if there's no in between, like you're either a writer, die, twin or like I fucking he issue, you stole my face twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, this was an interesting episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I very much come around on Sander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've witnessed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like people understand I do not despise him at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it was, I thought it had an interesting message.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also for me being kind of like a, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a right, like I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched it twice, so I've had like double the amount
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had a twin experience, had a twin experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like a goofy zany episode, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is so cold on it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as we found out that the actor, Nicholas Branden, I think it is, was a twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it was, you know, prophesized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, this would happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know that was going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was fun to see it in in person and I think that you know I watched it with our friend Todd he was at our house while we were watching in of course my questions always gravity towards logistics like how did they do that which one is like Nicholas Brendan which one is the twin at what point and from my understanding of what he said is that whenever
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was one zander, even if it was confident zander or not confident zander, it was Nicholas Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when it was both of them, then obviously both the twins were there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I assume that when it was both of them sloppy zander, it was the real actor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume so, that's what my assumption is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just about the perspective like we followed for a lot of it was like we were led to believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also for the for going forward this episode, I am referring to them as sloppy zander, which is the zander that wears like the Hawaiian shirt and it's like a little bit of a mess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have khaki zander, which is like the zander that is put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the scoobies of the world call him confidence ander, but if you want to call him khakis ander, I can't help but notice the khakis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go down the path with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right, because especially because of how big
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[SPEAKER_00]: sloppy sander was acting versus like how even killed khaki sander was and I feel like it was probably a lot easier because his for my understanding his twin is not an actor by any means but yeah um this is like his own his only acting opportunity so uh but they look I mean their twins they look exactly alike I was trying to like pinpoint like if I am my opinion
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[SPEAKER_00]: even like the most twins of twins have differences like Tian Tamara like their identical except for like the freckle, which by the way, do you guys think they don't talk anymore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to be really weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there might be, like, at this moment, they might be trying to reconnect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not quite sure, but they were like no contact for years to end tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know, it's so strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, you're either super close or you hate your twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like those two identical, like, say for the beauty mark, which I believe is tomorrow, if I'm correct, or it's to ya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know them well enough to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, American Ashley Olsen as we well know are fraternal twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they look like twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like sisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, as much as Elizabeth looks like them and Elizabeth does look like them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is there any other famous twins?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like not thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are, and we're just not thinking of the match at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't think of any other famous twins, but there was one that was in in smallville and him and his brother, and they were the like X men, I don't know their names, but like they are twins who both act as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sure they.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is like a thing is, if you're a part of a set of twins and you both like to act, I feel like you are more likely to get specific types of auditions because there's only so many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay, so of course I'm forgetting about Dylan and Cole Sprouse who are very famous twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, I think, like, there's a very good
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[SPEAKER_00]: pipeline of being a child's actor to being like twins as a child actor because of course there's like child labor laws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, but then they got the opportunity of like Zack and Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they look alike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know one of them was blonde and one of them had black hair for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Dylan was the one that was blonde and Cole was the one that had the dark hair for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was kind of chunky, no offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan, he had baby face when they were younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God, Benji and Joel Madden, their twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, singers, not actors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we saying celebrities in general?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I typed in celebrity twins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's all the twins that I can report on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is twin talk, this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, twin talk, wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's in as a twin, no way, who is a twin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scarlett Johansson?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I knew that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my, oh, you know, who else is a twin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an actor from yellow jackets who is an identical twin and they look like an identical opos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Garo Johancin has a twin, but he's a brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's, that's not, when talk, the one thing I, I'm very grateful that this episode did bring us is we got Zander out of the dank basement, which is very exciting, although even from minute one of this episode, I was like, how the fuck is he still living here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where is on your living?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't they live together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is Riley living?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, whether there are people who are unaccounted for that we could have pair up a Zander as a rooming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have the same the same questions and I believe we did see on your apartment this episode or her home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just like a room, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very red.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sensual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the same thought because I was like, why isn't he moving in with Ania?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why does Ania demand that he gets an apartment when she has something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, he did see the he got the apartment for Ania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe Ania will eventually move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in with him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, but like, I got to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know we love Ania and we stand on a slow annoyed with her this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she has a lot of demands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand part of it is her being mortal and she's injured and she feels like, okay, I'm going to die soon, whatever, whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's having a little bit of a crisis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, girl, you get a job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, girl, you move in my sander and help him pay the rent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she had a lot of demands for someone who's really not helping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is true that she did that's very true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think of that because I was more focused on kind of her other storyline of just like having the actualization that you're human and therefore you're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not immortal and will live forever, which is like probably a very scary thought for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a very scary thought for all of us, but you're right, like she does have a lot of development, but I would say like
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[SPEAKER_00]: All girl, good girlies do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just should have high expectations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also just that I feel like I really hate when I watch a show where one partner in the relationship is like you have to get the nicest apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it puts you in debt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you can't afford it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: lower your expectations as smidge on you if you're not going to then like also help because he is trying he's actively trying yeah that is true he is trying I think that you're you're you're losing the comedy of on you have I'm yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you are forgetting why we love her, which is the very blunt and like say the thing that's on top of your mind and like very dramatized version of a character that we find very funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're thinking a little bit more rooted in reality you want on yet to get a nine to five as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want on yet to do something to do to do something to make some money to contribute something if she's going to be so hard on zander because I don't like it's really fair to be like zander get jobs zander by me things like girl what are what are you doing like what are you doing
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not her fault that all her experience is messing with men and that that does not typically like fund you and she had to have made some money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume because how can she afford anything that she has her apartment like but I don't know are those like demons down under giving her were were they giving her like a stipend to do any of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not quite sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say like the honest stuff that I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the storyline that we're getting of her feeling her mortality, now that she's been hurt, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I mean, we all kind of feel this, um, and Zanders has as much we all feel this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all feel our mortality at certain times having some crises of like we only have so many years to live and there's not enough time to do everything we want and we're behind and right, all of those, you'll be very real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I love the comedy of, of, on your wanting to fuck both Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what them that did very much crack me up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we're going to ask the question if you have the opportunity to be with two of your husbands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you take that opportunity?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too weird for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm such a sick fuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little too weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very weird, but she elicit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you trick at all by, like, did you think that one of the, like, the khaki demon was?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his name was Neon teeth, is what I named him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: down to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course I was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it was like pretty kind and dry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really have much question especially because of how serious that fake khaki standards and I'm a fake that khaki standards was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really did think that like it was either like a demon or a shapeshifter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really impressed by the twist that like no it's like two halves of the same person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, the only thing that's sad, it's just like, okay, so sloppy zander is all the undesirable features of zander and put together khaki zander is all the good features of zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of felt like that was kind of sad because, I mean, I guess I know, like I think that like obviously
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[SPEAKER_00]: copy zander has all of like zanders like sense of humor and his like probably more of like no mainly just his sense of humor I would say because I was going to say like his like
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[SPEAKER_00]: his charisma, but I really do think that, like, it's like self-deprecating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I wouldn't say that like, necessarily, Sloppy'sander got zero good treats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also, I think he has heart too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like we've talked a lot about Zander and and being the heart of the group and kind of all that stuff, but and he does like ultimately it takes him a minute to get there, but he's like, oh, this Zander wants on ya, I need to go save her, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he does have heart, he does have feeling his love for his friends, like he has all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just packaged in a sloppier way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, like, slopp sticky, that zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to be honest with you, I've never been more attracted to khaki zander in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, oh, you're like, very put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, you, you were a man with a job and you were a man that can get things done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was like, I'm like attracted to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Anio was as well, which once again,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many of like zanders like sweet qualities are coming from the more less desirable end and I feel as though like maybe Ania really does want like zander as more of like khakis and I don't know like she really does love all of him but I just think that she felt more like oh the zanders like a better
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[SPEAKER_00]: having this like serious talk with her right like when they're in a very apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like listen like we're all we all feel our mortality like you're not alone in this, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was being very sweet and I think again he is still zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just in a more put together package and I also think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which ever zander each of our characters were approached by first was the one they were believing and so like it's not I don't think it's anything against her for like not you know wanting when the sloppy zander comes in and has the gun she's like what no kill him kill it it's gross
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the scoobies, you know, we're thinking Kacky'sander was quote unquote reelsander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like Willow was like, no, sloppy sander is reelsander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think whichever one approached them first was kind of the one that they were like, oh, you must be the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they all both are the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really went into the twist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, were you surprised by that twist as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they got me, like, I guess, so I wasn't shocked when we found out that it was like only half of him, but that I think the reason they had me going for so long was the the coin that like, they got with he was like tricking people, they thought he was like a manipulating them or you know, what is it called?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you like, you know, getting in their heads with this like coin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, flight of hand, trickery type of thing, what Bobber, it was also pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, no, it's just something shiny that I found on the ground, which is very zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it all, it very much worked for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just think we're at a very interesting point now, where we have a couple different relationships on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tara is not in this episode, so we don't really need to speak on the Tara and Willow of it all,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the Zander and Agna relationship, the lasagna shippers, as we like to say, and then we have the ruffy side of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting that Zander seems, again, he's not jealous in that he wants to be with Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely wants to be with Agna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be, so he's like jealous of their bond of ruffy's bond and their relationship and how solid they are and just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was interesting to hear from Riley that that is not how he sees them, um, because I think now I'm trying to remember I don't know, no they both have said I love you to each other right Riley and Buffy have said it back so I thought so I thought it was really really interesting and I think it's very much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now I think we see this law in social media where you see a couple on social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're always posting and you're like, they are the perfect couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're so beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, every, like, they're traveling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everything is amazing for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you sit there and you compare your own relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with this couple, those perceived to be perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then next to you, no, that perfect couple is no longer together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in reality, you and your relationship that has flaws, that maybe people look at your relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, that's the perfect relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I was just like them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're the staple one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is kind of something very similar without the Instagram reels of the thing, because it's just kind of the same story
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I very much think it's like that and for Zander, a lot of his stuff is coming from insecurities because he's like, oh, I just saw Amya really attracted to this put together version, which means that I'm probably just not good enough and her eyes, but like, you know, you like, you like every single bit of each other, you and Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought it was really interesting about what Riley was saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like once again, like I, I, I really, really like Riley and I think that he's just like, just all of it, it just like very much like hones and then who Riley is, which is Midwestern nice to see that man help zander and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, onya moosh it out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that is a Midwestern man in moving shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know like a lot of people help their friends move, but like it is just like very much very much that like the fact that like I don't know they the they were
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[SPEAKER_00]: right and together it's just like very I just like really really like him and I really like what he was saying to Buffy like I like because Buffy also is like do you ever wish that I was just Buffy and not Buffy the Slayer and I loved that Riley was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love all of you, like I love like that you're interesting and you are the slayer and that you're an incredible fighter and I think that like if it wasn't if you weren't all of you then you wouldn't be you and yeah, I love all of you and I don't know exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why he feels that Buffy doesn't in love with him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he knows that Buffy loves him, but he probably doesn't think that Buffy's in love with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's probably one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm trying to be like, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like their sexual chemistry is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're always on top of each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like there's a lack of passion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like does he think he compares himself to how Buffy
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[SPEAKER_00]: the entire world was surrounding angel for her, like her entire world revolved around angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why do you think that Riley thinks that Buffy is not in love with her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, clearly, he's in love with Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's in love with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it's necessarily that moment where she said, like, I love you and she didn't say a back in that moment because I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm pretty sure that she said I love you before to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't disagree with you about the kind of Instagram, sort of relationship they have on some levels, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where two different times this episode, they're making out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, the thing is, is they're not,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's very different than this like curated relationship that you see online of people where they only post the good things because that's face it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you post the hard moments you're not going to like hey you're crying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm crying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's whip a camera out and take a photo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I see that a lot on from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, youtubers are like it's just like it's just you don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: admit the flaws in your relationship for public consumption generally speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but two different times, they are making out for no one other than themselves, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when they're making on in Buffy's room and Dawn starts gagging, first of all, uh, shout out to Susie Cue, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is rising in my rankings for that gag, because I thought it was hysterical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a type of very younger sister of her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, I did love the quip from Joyce about both of them working together to give her a headache or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a really good little mom quip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so there's that moment where they're like making out in her bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they're looking at zanders new place, they're like instantly go into a bedroom and start making out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, like these aren't like show boating eight gouts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing them off to the side on their own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: obviously physicality and physical closeness does not equate to intimacy does not equate to love necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's just a good thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a green flag rather than a red flag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't quite know why Riley feels this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if Riley is saying this, the show is also by proxy kind of saying this, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if Riley feels,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that she does not feel the same way does not feel as strongly as he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That means the show is telling us is raising this red flag of like, this is something to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't quite know why he feels that way, because as much as I don't particularly find rally very interesting, again, I agree with you, he's a good boyfriend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that and also not find him interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never really gotten that vibe from Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is this an insecurity of Riley's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so because like he's never really
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a couple moments here and there are a couple comments he's made in terms of knowing she's had a prior relationship with a vampire in Angel and write all that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's never been, it never has felt like it's been a huge hurdle for him to overcome in terms of, well, she dated in a mortal vampire, why would she want to date me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he has not really ever shown that insecurity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really know where this is coming from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm interested to see where it goes because it does seem like the show is raising it as a red flag and I'm interested to see if they have evidence to then back that up or like if or even if they show us it's all in Riley's head right like I don't care as long as they go on to explain it a bit more because for me it was very surprising like it came out of essentially nowhere for him to say this when
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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally two other times the episode they're making out and everything seems fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing that is off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we are we are eagle eyed viewers at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of Buffy the show and television in general, you know, we have our eyes out for kind of these these vibes these, you know, the things that the show is trying to flag for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just haven't been I haven't felt what he was expressing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then it makes me feel like if we're not seeing it, then it's stemming from him and his head, his own securities, insecurities, does he not feel like he's good enough for Buffy or for the slayer or for like somebody that's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that much of a leader or like that much of a celebrity and like or whatever he's not she's not really a celebrity but you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's like Tories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like and like now he doesn't he doesn't have a job like he's not the leader like he's coming from a place where like he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the leader of the the initiative like I like he was like top dog now he's like knocked back down like is there were worlds where he just doesn't feel good enough and when you don't feel good enough and you don't feel like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you are deserving of somebody, whether obviously it's not true, then your brain starts telling you stories of like, well, then she sees it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't think I'm good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't think, she's projecting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying, like, I'm not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a leader anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: a career anymore or goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she doesn't think that I can keep up with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she doesn't think that I'm good enough to be with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that's the only thing that I can come up with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's feeling these things about himself, which is giving him insecurities and then he is projecting those feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on to her because he doesn't love himself anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he doesn't love himself anymore, if he doesn't feel worthy of love, then she might not must not love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a real relationship killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you have told yourself that like you're unlovable and there's no way that your partner can possibly love you, even though that's not true, you are killing your relationship
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it doesn't even matter if it's true, you're telling yourself it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like a big thing that I think is, a big learning moment for most anybody in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a long time to learn, but if you don't love yourself, as Rupal says, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you need to accept who you are, and maybe like we all have flaws, and we all have things we're working on, and we all have like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, traits about ourselves that we don't like, but you have to get past those and learn to accept yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are going to be able to put out love towards somebody else and receive love from somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe that's the story they're telling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like, okay, we're three episodes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just like a, it is a flag that like, I feel like is being waived at us as far as like pay attention to this, because this could be how we're setting up the end of the roughy relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, that ends, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it ends in Riley, sacrificing himself, or them just having a normal, you know, kind of break up, who knows how it ends, but it feels like they are signaling something to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're three episodes, and so we're still very early on, but like Buffy is very, very focused right now on learning the slayer lore right learning about the first layer learning about who she is and is that something that is then going to come in the way of her being in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: relationship, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like her wanting to work on herself so much that it just and we've seen like right, she's had a few different moments where she's like, oh, Riley, we had plans, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go like, yeah, and that's saying, this is not me like, you know, chastizing Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think she's doing what she has to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just sometimes timing isn't right for relationships.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and talking about kind of the other side of things with Ania and Zander, it does feel like they're moving in an even better direction now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like with him having this new apartment, she like, she doesn't want either Zander to kill the other one once she's like, I don't know, like I don't know which one is the real one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I felt like there was a tiny thing
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[SPEAKER_00]: the sloppy zander says to willow will we need to save on you like he's trying to get to on you and willow's like kind of took yam in it to get there like was that an inflack at all or is it just like a quip i mean i didn't feel like that was very fair
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a duplicate of you, like, come on with the guy a break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really see that as a red flag, like, uh, like, willow did, willow would take any opportunity to, like, kind of dunk on on you on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: continues to be irritating for me and like maybe that's just because like I really like lasagna, like I don't really like, you know, when below naysays their relationship or like oniam particular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like I kind of felt like that was like a weird
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[SPEAKER_00]: comment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose like, yeah, like maybe he could have gotten there a little bit sooner, but also, yeah, like he has like a lot going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is also not the best version of himself, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't have a version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: like cacky for like presenters version of like logic and like problem solving, which comes with like his military background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, big, his fake military background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like maybe if he did have that sort of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: problem-solving aspect to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would have gotten there a little bit sooner so I don't really know if I falten for that, especially because like he did get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't, it wasn't like Willow is like what about Anja?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, oh wait, yes, I have girlfriend Anja, like it's not like he did that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't necessarily think that it was super fair, but yeah, I think that's the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the pros outweighed the cons in terms of, okay, yes, there was that one tiny quip from Willow, but like he had, again, this was a real version of Zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kaki was part of Zander, but this really lovely conversation with her and like about her mortality, about how he also feels that way and how he wants to for them to go through it together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both, you had to remember, I'm telling myself, you or I know this, but I have to remember, it's both parts of him, these are all him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he does think about that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both Sanders, we're caring about Ania, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because while we originally thought Kackie Sanders is trying to talk to Ania to like, get her in whatever, no, he was trying to warn her because he thought Sloppy'sander was a bad zander, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, it's I think I'm I'm liking what I'm seeing of of lasagna and I think as much as on your tative like ever so slightly early on in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we I think there is a very tough line to toe when it comes to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pushing and motivating your partner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are times when it can be detrimental to push too hard because I think there's a difference between lifting them up and showing them they have potential and pushing them so hard that they feel like they can never live up to your expectations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's a hard balance and I once again I think it's very much like know your partner like I myself get a little spiteful when I get pushed because I I don't want you to think that you my partner to think that I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want to get places on my own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so like you telling me to do something often means that like I want to rebel against that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you tell me to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, I'm not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that like know your partner, but like my partner loves to get motivated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he like really likes it when I'm like, hey, like, you know, you should, for example,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 30 miles on the bike today, you should do 35 like he loves that shit because he sees it as a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see that shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, so you don't think that my 30 is good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that could do 30 miles on a bike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just would never recover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he does though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did 35 miles on the bike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're fucking insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I get very much like, oh, you don't think that like my shit's good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, so I think if you're right in your partner,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is definitely a, it is know what the line is for each individual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like be careful not to push too hard because like, it's, I'm not saying, you don't want, you don't want to be in a relationship where you're like, I can fix him, but you also don't want to be in a relationship where you just have unrealistic expectations and like you to a certain extent, you have to accept the person that you are with, uh, words and all flaws and all, um, and I think you're in a good
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you think the onion does that like do you think that she wants Xander to change because like I don't know, she is always I don't know like she's always very much like as long as he's doing something she seems pretty pleased like she doesn't seem like dissatisfied that he's a construction worker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, she's dissatisfied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He still lives in his parents' basement, which I'm not saying she should be like accepting of, but I think there's a different stepping stone between like having a really crappy apartment in your parents' basement and finding a realistic apartment that you can afford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a middle ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's kind of pushing it over the line in my opinion at least a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think she cares about Zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she is proud of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's also just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's learning how to communicate with like her feelings and on top of that, we literally just talked about like, you know, accepting who you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she is still coming to terms with being mortal and being in stuck in a human body when she lived thousands of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, when we think about the grand scheme of Ania's life, she has not spent a ton of time in this part of her life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, it took, it could take her years to get used to something, you know, decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all moved very fast for her, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to have realistic expectations for her as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think I'm very impressed with both Zander and Ananya in terms of how they've matured in this relationship together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is the first relationship we've really seen where they've from for Zander specifically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, they have pushed each other in a good way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've brought out the best in each other, which is kind of ideal in a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I totally agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, I didn't, I might have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of their thoughts about Ania, but I can't seem to remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of never mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if it comes back to you, so Nianti, if we might as well just go through him real quick, Toth, he wants to kill Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He ends up going to Toto Toto with Giles very briefly, which is very funny when Giles likes him with a statue that was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they do end up killing him by the end of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he is just very much like a monster of the week,
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[SPEAKER_00]: long-term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, easy peasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very easy laddle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that the totem was really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that the thought of splitting them and if you kill one you kill the other, I thought that was really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the plan was a good plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like let me split up the slayer, Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will take on the weak Buffy, which will kill the slayer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is a decent
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you and your neon teeth and how continue to come up with decent plans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he does want to take her out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to take her out, but he wants to bring her to the melting pot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to take her out of the date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy, show her a little bit of his beautiful bright smile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like seeing Giles have to kind of stand his own ground and like what he comes up with, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think is very fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have a ton to do, but we do get like, again, another set piece in the in the magic shop, which is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love to kind of get that that set a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get used to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get comfy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like like the magic shop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like our new digs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've really up there budget here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got new new local
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is, I feel like spike, they don't know what to do with spike at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, okay, this man, this man, he needs a girlfriend or like a hobby or something because he's like playing with mannequins, like, my guy, he's digging through trash, like it's really sad though, like he actually needs something to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they need to yada yada this and just get him to be part of the Scooby's full time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, I'm ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what you have to do to just get over your baggage, but we gotta get you on the Scooby's because yeah, I know it's going to happen eventually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just like go, let's do it already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel sad for him at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's literally like playing with dolls like a little mannequin with a wig on it like he needs something to do like if I think it would be extra fun if like harmony turns out to be our big bad because I didn't forget that she got away and is able to get into Buffy's house and spike hate harmony so much that he like joins up with the school days and there's a harmony so much I don't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a love-hate thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's annoyed by her at the very least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he wants her to, maybe what they'll do is harmony wants to take out Buffy, and he's like, I am not having a harmony, be the one to take out this layer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is like a bruise to his ego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they need to give something to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, he's very comedic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the comedy moments he brings, but I also feel like he's a little bit aimless at the moment, and I would like to see him kind of given something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else about the replacement?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, once again, I think it was really cool that they utilized the fact that the actor is an identical twin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it was just something that was bound to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that the line that I thought that really crashed me up in regarding that was like when
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[SPEAKER_00]: Zander said to Willow like, oh, how would you feel if you had like an evil twin going around or whatever and Willow was like, I think I handled it pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought that was like kind of funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was like a couple of like funny lines and I think the Nicholas Brendan did a pretty good job Acting against himself, but also his brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I thought that all in all it was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really well done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I wasn't disappointed by it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, the twist that they were both zander, they're both one half of the same zander.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good, like it was better than like I would have anticipated, like I think the predictable thing would have been some sort of like shape shifter, but yeah, this was this exceeded my expectations I did like that like it's we are getting some plot progression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, even though it is a long start the week episode, Zander has new apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have like this question mark of rise relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what I wanted to say about Ania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you think that like a part of Ania's push to get him out of the basement was just because of like the abuse that she witnessed from his parents?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that could be part of it, but I truly do think the majority of it is also just, like, don't be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to spend time down there either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm gonna get like percentage wise, maybe like 70, 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm, listen, she cares about Zander, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I do think most of it is like, this is uncomfortable for both of us, but also I have to spend a lot of time here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, maybe I'm giving her a little bit too much spent at the down like oh yeah, maybe she's just like I know that you're feeling very abused and is scary and they're with all the crashing and the yelling so like let's get you out of here, but yeah, that's probably not it yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I watched it once and only once and we got we're a little delayed in recording so it's it's been a number of days since I I did originally watch it I just didn't feel like it warranted a rewatch honestly like I'm already watching Buffy twice I'm not about to like jump on this angel episode twice unless I have to unless it feels necessary
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my main takeaways, we get a lot more from gun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He becomes like a more realized character in that Cordelia has a vision about him getting hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she is like, I'm not leaving your side because you're going to get hurt and I am like your protector, whatever, but it turns out I thought this was an interesting moment that the danger he was in wasn't anything she just saved him from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because he puts himself an unnecessary danger and he's going to destroy himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I thought that was like an interesting little twist, um, and listen, anytime Cordelia gets to rub it in someone's face that they are wrong and she is right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am here for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then obviously the other big piece of it is Darla, um, coming back into the picture and angel like sleeping a lot because he gets to be with her in his dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can I forget all the sex streams sex streams with Darla?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know what that was excellent No, I mean yeah, like he had like a lot of dreams with Darla and then at one point Darla was like actually in his bedroom like giving him like a little nighttime Blowjob like that was at the yeah, that was at the end of the episode, so I don't know like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because the way I read it, right, like we have Cordelia and a lot of other characters being like angels been sleeping a lot like what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt to me like he was like purposely going to sleep a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that one seat was asleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't wake up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was that he liked his time dreaming about Darla more than he did living his immortal life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's exactly it, which is interesting a little bit of depression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you've got to just when you get the sleepies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you get to cocoon and cocoon is good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like cocooning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see where we go from
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like again, I think this was more of a stepping stone episode of like, yes, gone is here to stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to introduce him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got confirmation that now they are taking over that old hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where angel lives is not we're Cordelia lives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thankfully she still gets to hang out with her little ghosty friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now they're that is like their home base is this hotel now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice establishment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's too much out for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I
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[SPEAKER_00]: agree because if you're going to rely on Cordelia to be the one who's cleaning it like get a meter something that's on her job like stop it yeah they need they need a housekeeper housekeeper yeah she doesn't get paid enough for this nonsense like she has to dust this whole hotel out of here and it's very dusty it's very upsetting very
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the angel episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it was okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping we really get more darlas stuff next episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they're like slowly getting us there, but she was in the episode, beautiful as can be BT Dubs, like just like absolutely stunning in all the dreams that she's like very ethereal because I think they're like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're making kind of blurry and unfocused in a way that makes her look very angelic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously the actor is also incredibly beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really excited to see what they do with Darla and Angel because we always were big fans of Darla and I remember us being like gone too soon in the early days of Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were really upset when they killed her off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was certainly a tragedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's Angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened on Angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, do you want to get into some feedback before we talk about what episodes are next?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got an email from Natalie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just having listened to your latest episode, just a minor correction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As you mentioned, we're now in 2002.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not quite in 2002 yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season one premiered as a midseason replacement early in 97.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season two
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[SPEAKER_00]: 3 was 98 to 99 for was 99 to 2,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're all of 2,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Michelle tracked in work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason that they're saying this is because Michelle tracked in Burgess 15 in when she's playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so very age appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think she looks at each do so it works out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did you catch the reference that like they made where she's like, oh, you're obsessed with like, uh, skating movies?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No skating movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like little like girl skating movies or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember writing me of like the ice princess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michelle, oh, yes, but I just made sense because that movie came out 2005.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so prophecy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a prophecy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of dawn, I'm a little confused about your talking about the show gas letting you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're suddenly calling her Susie and acting like she's new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When obviously Buffy has had a little sister since season one episode one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I seared jokes, Natalie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I seared jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate like Joyce Don wasn't around much in season four when Buffy was mostly on campus and she's grown up a fair amount since season three, but the two of you spent a fair amount during season one through three talking about annoying she was and didn't add any value.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you had so much to say in that three episode arc when Spike drew it in jealous Angelus sorry kidnapped her and kept her hostage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're saying you don't remember any of that someone put a spell on you to and then in parentheses T he goes well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She put a spell on us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, by the way, I love that quick little spell at the end of the episode where she's just like in the spell and then Zander is oh my god, that was so stupid Like that's no joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Zander also being a bad influence on himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was pretty Yeah, they started like with the dick and fart jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's hilarious, Natalie
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, that we forgot that Dawn was there the entire time and all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all time better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like she now that you see that I remember when we used to compare her to Morgan from Boyne's world a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like we would always compare those constant comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we would I mean like Michelle is like a much better actor now, but like when she was a kid kid, I like don't think that she was like screened all
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[SPEAKER_00]: her lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely better now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that has one more thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more additional trivia fact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember reading a long while back, Joss had actually intended to give Buffy a sister who was more like eight to ten years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they ended up going a different round, they didn't amend the script enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hence, we're acting pretty childish for 14 to 15-year-old
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes so much more sense because truly the most unbelievable fact of all of this was like that a 14 year old needs a babysitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what are we doing when I was 14.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was babysitting children.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was babysitting at like 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were the babysitter and not the babysitter sat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was in a very good babysitter, honestly, because I remember one time particular we were playing pretty pretty princess and the kids like took the tiara and I was like you can't take the tiara like you're cheating and she was just like I win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like you do not win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got me to tear a child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little mad because I just planted the tiara.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably, I just didn't like the cheating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also got a message from Michael.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Justin Sarah, I've been getting crushed at work, but I heard the bat signal go out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There aren't a ton of actual crossovers this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The network leaned on that more in season one and tried to get Angel to develop its own viewership more in season two, but here you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have crossovers, sorta question mark, are one nine and 17 and then the connected events are 11 and 22.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so if I need an out that those are the episodes that I watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season two, not of Angel, not my faith, but there is something she'll love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sarah may be back on board for episode nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so episode now I can really just go to sleep until the episode nine is that's what that's what I'm hearing that's um, he says a season three is fine everyone hates season four, but it has some of the best stand alone episodes and some legendary crossovers and season five is a master piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, easily one of the best all around seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it's like, listen, you'll love season five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to watch four seasons to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, balances a soap opera with the supernatural with just the silliest shit and includes at least one of your all-time favorites who just redefines the show entirely in the best possible way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, wish you could just skip to that because the payoff is there, but you got a slog, friends, or just us anyway dot dot dot dot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, keep up the great work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast has been the only thing I've gotten to listen to or watch for fun in the past three weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Michael, thank you so much for your hard hard work and, uh, on both fronts, on both sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to learn how to work your actual job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't really,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also my, well, we hope it eases up for you soon because that sucks camaraderie friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it ends soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We now officially have the crossovers that you will need to watch if you can give up on the others up to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, watch because what else am I doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but yeah, that's that's that's Buffie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our feedback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to send
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love's hearing from all of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a new listener, especially, reach out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know you binged us for whatever insane reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize for anything I said multiple years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to know the title of the next episodes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for a buffee season, five episode four out of my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, maybe this is a Susie power reveal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, like mine powers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they don't wait too long, by the way, before they reveal that, because already, I was like, oh, we're gonna get it this episode and we didn't, and I wanted it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So your you know patients is not one of your best traits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is a success in my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to now I wanted to ask you like what do you like if you had to name like three traits like the best of you and the worst of you had if you were split in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what would be in my sloppy dress and what would be in my jacket dress, yeah?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like, I think that like, my, like, my judginess would be in my, my khaki j- Oh, no, that's my sloppy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your other one, my sloppy, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that like, so like, by judginess, probably like me being like very,
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[SPEAKER_00]: traumatic, like, not sensitive, because I think that sometimes that's a good thing, but like, like, you know, my, like, my, like, me catastrophizing everything, which I guess is like kind
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, like my third bad treat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of bad traits, so it's really hard to cherry-pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my good traits like maybe like my empathy, my like my good listening skills, maybe my like aptitude for finding nice stationery,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is such an important part of your words and I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe that's the breakdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For my sloppy side, probably,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably how critical I am, both of myself and others, I think that can be not great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anxiety is a tough one, because I would put it on the negative side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although one could argue that it's not really a personality trait, although it does sometimes feel like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does inside out say is anxiety one of the core personality traits that's there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, is that is that the guy, yeah, anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the one with the hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the one with the hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I probably like impatience because that could cover like a bunch of things in terms of like, you talking over people or just like not giving enough time for something to develop, you know, that sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as for like the the khaki side, I mean, I feel like I'm decent at like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to bring the positive to things, like trying to remain upbeat, even if I'm not necessarily feeling that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe creativity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like I have a decent bit of that to offer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe by third one would be like, uh, like, I mean, I love animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I always want to help animals, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, hopefully my khaki side wins out in the war between us, you know, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so out of my mind for next week, oh, an angel, uh, untouched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the episode title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So hey, what else up there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor angel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't get his attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even in his dreams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, maybe maybe some touching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in his dreams, look at some touches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so that will be next week, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should be back on Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So apologies for the late podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what life happens people, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big party at our house to celebrate Adam and I marriage like we only invited like 13 people to our wedding so then me like through this party during the summer to you know just and
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[SPEAKER_00]: make sure the aunts and uncles are on a depression over the fact that they did not get the anti-essentialing, but like also Adam and I throw like a Labor Day party every year, like it's kind of going to be like our thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had like 60 people at our house and it was just one of the and then I was like hosting a bunch of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of those things really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so tired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so life happens, but we're back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next week as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the meantime, check out everything else we have going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go check out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a wind podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Want to just grab a podcast, just celebrate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 200th episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, wait, are you ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Windsor, I think are five year anniversary just passed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, for the podcast, I think you're right, because we started in August, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, September.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so yeah, let's see, yeah, happy five year anniversary to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Woo, we did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is our gift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A sake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, we'll be back next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll see you on a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.