Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 5 Episode 12 - Checkpoint

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before It's just behind never ending windows All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need a partner for the ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 There's a need to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit 90's show start me!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shit 90's show start me was not filmed before live studio audience.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you ready to slay another day?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So are we.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to shit 90 shows taught me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just darling, you're with my co-host.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sarah Humphrey, Sarah, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, oh boy, Jess, this is, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's some crazy shit happening on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I am bamboozled, I am surprised.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not expecting the news that we've received this episode, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say I'm very much into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very much into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really, really into it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this was definitely a lower episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like a we're furthering the season five story, this episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, if this is lore-heavy, then call me a girl who's a slut for lore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who knew?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I love day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there is parts of it where I'm like, who is like, people are being a little bit annoying, but like, Buffy Summers finally remembered that she's like Buffy

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[SPEAKER_02]: love that energy from her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When she is tapped in, she's like fully jacked in, I guess, so would say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was loving it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, love it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we're talking season five episode 12 check point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and

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[SPEAKER_03]: really interesting to get the watchers back and not just the watchers but Quentin himself who we've seen previously all because of glory like glory is such a big bad such a villain that they're like we got to get the watchers back involved this is as a result of jials going to England now Quentin and his possey

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[SPEAKER_03]: are coming into town because they have news about glory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the scoobies meeting at the top of the episode about this and like Buffy's Fairy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: nervous about it, Tara doesn't understand.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She thought British people were nice, uh, barbons, perilous thing again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, I'm sorry because just so much stuff in this one low low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seeing number one guess, Dawn is stare listening again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Buffy is very aware that Dawn is stare listening and very concerned about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like this was like the moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the first half of the sees the episode, I was like, oh, Buffy's like still being kind of annoying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then the second half of the season, I'm like, oh, I love Buffy again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's a sterile listener.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now she's aware of it is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So now Buffy is finally catching on the dawn is the sterile listener and it's like you could see the Cog's turning of like what else has she overheard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then of course we get little snippet later of dawn being like I know more than you think I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like a true younger sibling, it's like they don't know shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're really talking out their ass about how much they know because like she says that she knows shit, but she doesn't know all the shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I wanted to know specifically, do you think that all British people are nice and gentle?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's the yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are you thinking about right now?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't get where Tara is coming from is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because like I don't think that like a stereotypical British person is like known for their kindness.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like

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[SPEAKER_03]: they can, you know, I feel like they're more known for being like a bit more aloof and like stand off-ish, not that British people I've encountered are like that, but mostly like that is the stereo type.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have no idea unless literally Tara is only thinking of jiles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's truly what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's probably like, oh, this is the first British person that I've ever met and he's kind in gentle, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the, I am pretty close to a British person, my coworker for the last like eight years, Barney.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, Barney is, it's very, I, I wouldn't say he's gentle, but he's very, very nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He could be gentle, but like, that's also weird to say about my coworker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he loves the goss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the one thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He loves the goss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't, again, I don't know where she got this from, especially these British people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: These watchers are a whole.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're the worst.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, less we forget they've nearly killed Buffy more than one time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so they are coming into town.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we should just stick with the watcher stuff because then we'll have like the glorious stuff kind of, you know, meets up with it at a certain point and obviously spike stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so quarantine is back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a complete dickhole and basically he comes in with his posse and he like immediately is like picking up things at the store kicking out all of the customers and basically being like listen bitch, I'm going to shut down your store like I want to fully review Buffy and basically give her a report card.

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[SPEAKER_03]: want to interview these civilians that she has fighting with her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't let me, not only am I going to shut down Giles' store, but I'm going to have him deported because I'm rich and red tape and bureaucracy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, my perspective is mostly the same but kind of different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's about time that somebody audited the magic box because

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[SPEAKER_02]: quite honestly there are a lot of dangerous artifacts in the fact that they're just like lying about for anybody to possibly pocket or like multiple ingredients for disastrous things like giant ass snakes and if you buy two of them together and there's no sort of like you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: prompt on the screen or whatever to say like, hey, if you buy these two things together, then bad things can happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The shop needed to be audited to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's too powerful in there in order to have no checks and balances.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On young could do a good job being cherished in bounces, but she's a little bit too focused on the money, which we love that about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is a fiscal queen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not her responsibility to be like, oh, this thing can melt human eyeballs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's on Giles for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think Charles is very knowledgeable in that type of stuff as the issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel as though like it needed to be audited and like honestly, we probably should close the shop while these people are here because once again, you never know who is listening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there are never one like glory just walked right in and bought some sharp and you never know who's working for who's so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is they could have done this in the

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[SPEAKER_03]: When the store was closed like they really are just like coming in and being like look at my dick I'm gonna swing it around and tell you what to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's as jiles doesn't work for them anymore Buffy doesn't work for them anymore so they are just coming in and acting like they're the gods in the situation Like they want everyone to bow down to them and it takes Buffy some time to really be like

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know what fuck you fuck you fuck you like I'm actually the one with the power you need me because without me your powers are you don't have any powers like your jobs are meaningless yeah and it's just so it takes her a minute to get to that point but in the mean time she's really stuck because obviously she's not gonna let trials get deported so she has to kind of go through with this

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[SPEAKER_03]: bullshit, like again, test, another, basically a second test with them, where first they want to do a link, a big interview with all this quote-unquote civilians in the crew.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Ania pretending that she's born on the fourth of July.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oniya throughout the entire, like, episode was absolutely incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is so fucking funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I forget like her whole, her whole schedule was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, my name is Oniya.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oniya, Christina, and Manuella Jenkins, 20 years old born in the 4th of July, and like, when she said, and don't think that like, I haven't heard all the jokes about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, um, so

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[SPEAKER_02]: Funny all episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is truly our little patriot and I love I like there like that whole thing at the end where she was like Oh my god, Willow's a demon like that was so funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Ania was like this is like another reason why this is like such a good episode besides like the twist is like Ania was just so fucking funny throughout the entire episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because she's terrified as she should be that like these watchers aren't going to take kindly to an ex-demon, right, like a thousand-year-old ex-demon, like she, I mean, I feel like we could make some comparisons to our current administration in terms of like getting people out of the country that they don't like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This feels like she should be worried.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She should.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is in danger being around the watchers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when my favorites was when she finds out who they are when they're in the shop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's immediately like, oh, we in the back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, see you later.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chubs close.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Money's done for the day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be in the back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, see you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: later.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're getting like a lot of like back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So then we have Willow and Tara being interrogated together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And at first, I really thought that they were acting like they were just going to be friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then they did say, oh, no, work or friends, we're in love, we're lovers, we're lesbian, gay type lovers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they talk about both of them being witches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this guy is like, oh, like, what level, which are you saying to you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love Willow being like, oh, obviously high proficiency, like very high level and Tara just says five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she looks at Willow and like shrugs like I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you know, from what to what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is a five even a good?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we're like, it's like, it's at a 10, probably not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's what it's, it's what it's, it's what it's, it has a hundred, like I don't know, like what level can you be?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and apparently you have to be registered to be practicing which, which they're not like, all this bureaucracy, no one ever told us about any of this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have a union.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like tell me and explain it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Explain that the slayer has no salary and there is no union.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know, but once again, I mean, maybe this is not good news, but for the safety purposes, I don't think it's a bad idea for us to register our dangerous weapons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's like the magic mix.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because on one hand, I agree with you, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm

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[SPEAKER_03]: people performing magic, especially when it's like high level and dangerous, because we've seen Willow is obviously not a high proficiency, which in fact, she's like pretty much sucks at magic, but here's the thing because we ran Amy is still a rat, less we forget, but here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, it feels like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once we, it's a way to track people and be like, oh, we can then burn them at the state.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, is this like not like it's either like X men and like we don't want to register us as mutants because then they could like take us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is it more so like we should probably register our guns because if there's a shooting and a gun has found or like if there's a big magic Disaster yeah, like you know, this is like and maybe this is exactly the point of that

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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably it probably is and so like that whole thing was very funny them kind of realizing like oh yeah We are witches, but like we haven't done any of the like formal stuff and Obviously like Zander Zander like putting his foot in his mouth a little bit in terms of like Oh, she saved me a bunch of times and he's like, but I am capable on my own And all of that happening and then

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand how they got spikes number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand, like if I'm buffy, I'm not being like, oh, and by the way, also involved on my crime-fighting squad is a literal vampire.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that kind of hates me and talks shit to me constantly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How did it get his number?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, to be honest with you, I'm sure that they have eyes everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that they were overware of who buffy spends her time with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who she fights with, where she go, like I'm sure she knows everything about Riley, everything about Angel, everything about Faith, everything about Joyce, like I'm sure that she is tracked on the level that

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[SPEAKER_02]: that none of the characters are aware of and has been the entire time just because who she is even though she quit the the the watchers council or whatever it doesn't mean that they weren't still keeping tabs on her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that they were just going to replace her apparently that's not possible like she is truly a killer they literally have to kill her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She is the ones there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have been sitting around for a year now doing absolutely nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I am, I'm sure that they've been tracking everything that they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure that they follow each and every one of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're asking these questions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm positive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They know that

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[SPEAKER_02]: that willow and Tara are witches who are romantically involved.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it almost felt like they, because I almost think the opposite because it felt like when Buffie quit and Giles was fired, they were kind of like, okay, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're gonna go back to doing more important business things like, well, occupy our time with other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, literally nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're rich people who get paid to do nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where do you get this from?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just look rich.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just because they're British, and they have a fancy accent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're putting, they look rich.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is, talking about they look rich.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They just look rich.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they wear rich people suits and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're on a council, like councils of people feel rich.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the point is that I feel like

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were kind of like, oh, whatever's happening over in the U.S. doesn't pertain to us like it's in California.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, we're not hearing rumblings.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Buffy is keeping the vampire population under control.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like once Giles travels to Britain and says there's this bitch glory, what's up with her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, oh shit, oh shit, oh no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we got real bad shit happening.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We actually need to get up off our asses and do something about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we'll travel to California.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like they've been pretty far removed from like actually knowing what is going on with Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if I had to guess how they got spikes number, it's either like, again, maybe someone slipped and said his name, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Spike straight up is like I feel like we're we have been riding a line at least in my opinion, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I am interested in the spike buffy of it all and we have been like riding a line where he's been like Cattie to her and not nice to her but in a in a playful ish manner this episode I was like whoa not only are we like

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, if you could cold into HR and you could ask questions about a friend, it doesn't matter what they've actually done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're covering their ass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's your job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You cover their ass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is like, he, oh, she pays me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She lets me like suck blood from her victims sometimes like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he says oh she her her work is declining she can't keep a man like she's she's all sad about everything what's like what are you doing like you're talking to the enemy like you're you're basically going to the cops and being like arrest her arrest her her crime he he doesn't give a shit because why like they're aware that what's the stakes for him he's just in it for the laws

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he does give that's the point though is he does give a shit like he has a big crush on her like why is he trying to get her fired like this is horrible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, why does he want to have somebody that you might have a crush on her, but like she's still the slayer like she still sets off to murder everybody that's like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, his kind and she's sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's been like a lone wolf guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he doesn't care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's helped her kill other vampires.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he, it doesn't bother him at all unless it's someone he like drew Lulu or someone like he knows and loves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's just the only the part that I did find very funny was the the watcher that's like, Oh, I did a dinner thesis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that this slutty aspect, she's like obsessed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually so like the like I am kind of cosplaying as her today because I've realized that I had all the elements of her outfit, the black turtle neck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the like, you know, rectangular glasses, the hounds tooth coat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had like all for outfit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess it's Halloween again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, I got to like dress up like her because I wrote my thesis on you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what is she was throwing her whole ass pussy at him like, come on, what a little more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wants to be bit by him for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that was a funny element where he was like, oh, you've heard about me, which I'm sure he loved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like the, I don't know, I thought like the scenes were like all of this interview scenes in my opinion were really funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was really funny seeing how because like also when you're getting interviewed sometimes, you do like put your foot in your mouth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you get nervous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You say stuff that you're not supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to be honest with you, like I don't really think that these interviews being much, I mean, they ultimately didn't mean much of anything, but what I ultimately don't matter, but I do think like, I think it's, when you hear like, oh, you're going through a formal review of,

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[SPEAKER_03]: everything and if they're not satisfied, you're basically not going to get the information you may need that could be make or break in terms of defeating glory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you're going to be nervous, especially because Buffy can't influence or like necessarily always predict.

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[SPEAKER_03]: what all the rest of the Scoobies are going to say, like they could mess up and then what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like then it's on her, it's her neck and it's also Giles' job and his place here in this country.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, there's a lot on the line for Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I would be really nervous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of just feel like

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[SPEAKER_02]: this is like, they're asking questions that they just know the answers to in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel as though it's more so like they are seeing, they're like calling these people's bluffs like how much are you going to lie to us?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how can we work with you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe that's, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: all the tests are complete bullshit because yeah the the initial tests with Buffy were it's like oh we're going to see how well you fight and they're throwing Japanese frightening terms at her which I don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never gotten the Playbook, the Slayer Playbook, but I guarantee you that that wasn't part of the, like, you must know all technical fighting terms in these specific

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, verbiages like I'm trying to remember if like Giles ever did anything like then the beginning because in the very beginning of the show like he was very by the book so if that was something she was supposed to learn I feel like he would have tried obviously we saw Giles adapt because he saw Buffy that's not what he's fighting style like she doesn't fight like a militant fighter she's much more

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, improvisational in her fighting style.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it didn't work for her, but yeah, it very much felt like we're setting you up to fail.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to like throw shit at you that we know you don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we saw her fail, right, in the physical fight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like yes, she kicked the guys ass, but then she also accidentally stabbed the dummy, which was like the person she's theoretically supposed to be protecting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they really are like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the worst she does, the more, I think the more she gets in her head because of how poorly she's performing because they're setting her up for failure, the worst she then performs later on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's only when she kind of realizes that like, you know what, I actually hold the power that things get reversed around, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So do you think that she failed the, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: She felt, I didn't realize that the dummy that was the person that she was supposed to be protecting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't, I didn't pay attention to remember that because I read it as like, okay, like we have nothing to call her on or like deductor from fighting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she is like strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She really broke this guy's ribs, like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know we have nothing to say so it's like let's focus on strategy which we never really which honestly is buff his weak spot like she can punch and kick all day like she can slay whomever but her weakest spots are like not jumping into something and coming up with a plan beforehand which was like

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of like one of which was Riley's strength, which was, you know, something that they had disagreed with in their fighting styles as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So unfortunately, we never get to see that because on her way to her final interview, she, well, the glory shit happens, but then she also

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[SPEAKER_02]: really ambushed which this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is this a good time to talk about this because I don't even know I came in so basically she gets me ambushed by three guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the rights of Byzantium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm calling them the nights of potassium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's what it heard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was that's what it sounded like to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they're very out of nowhere and it feels like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: a footnote in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we could have and we obviously don't know what the Knights of Potassium mean going forward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like it felt like we could have gotten Buffy having this kind of realization from the glory stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't think we needed the Knights of Potassium for her to have the realization.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they said,

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[SPEAKER_02]: They said, what did they say?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she was like, are you Gory's people?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, no, we would never work for those beasts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we want the, they want the key to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are, so they attack her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't work for Gory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They want to destroy the key, because they don't want, because they don't want Gory to have it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so they want to kill the key and buffy and like it doesn't make a ton of sense that like I just don't get why she lets him go because he's a human.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She says he says there the Knights of Byzantium and Ancient Order and now you're enemy and like she asked about glory, they say no, but if it takes a hundred men, we'll send a hundred men if it takes a thousand we'll send a thousand because they want to destroy the brotherhood wants to destroy the key and now that you're protecting it, we want to destroy you too, but legions will follow and that's when she lets him go and takes his sword.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, like what's the point in killing him?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, if she kills him, there'll be others just like him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you know, you got to start somewhere, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's just like, if someone's like, literally, I'm gonna try to kill you, then I'm like, okay, bye, like, see you later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This whole thing was like, so,

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[SPEAKER_02]: it like just seemed so it's like, oh, we have another thing to worry about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I love that feeling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't get what you know, because it felt like this was supposed to be her having the realization, like this is what caused her to have the realization of like, I have the power other people don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that I feel like really more so came from the glory thing and not from the nights of potassium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes me feel like we're just like throwing another speed bump into everything, which is like, because there's more people they have to fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's to be honest with you, like, I mean, I don't know what's going to become of this, but it's like the glory stuff is so interesting that it's just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like what Buffy said it was like okay guys like can we do this later by him like I like I don't really have time right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'm busy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like there was like so much other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was the glory stuff going on and then there was like all the watchers stuff and then these like rando nights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: from a billion years ago come and now I'm like, oh, shit, now we have to worry about these guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, it's really strange because it's, oh, we're also against glory, but because of that, we don't want her to have the key.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So rather than trusting you to keep it safe, we're going to kill you and it, even though us fighting you distracts you from your goal of keeping glory from the key.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like it really it's like okay boys get a grip like really what are you doing yeah i don't know i feel like i also don't have time for this storyline don't we have too much other shit we're trying to focus on like we got dawn who's like discovering that she's the key we got joys who just almost died like obviously all the glory stuff we got watch or shit going on we got too much we have too much to be focused in his body like all that shit we don't time for your potassium bullshit okay like

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like if this is going to be maybe we're on episode 12.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously glory is like our big bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we need to make a little potassium D tour.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is something that I feel like is going to wrap up in like three episodes to the end.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they'll wrap up the potassium boys and then we'll be like a back to glory town.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel that because it's just like, okay, like why I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe because I think like buffing needs to spin more

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, she's like, she doesn't know how to play right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they just needed to add more problems, but whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can we talk about the glory stuff before we talk about like the big speed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I. Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love her so much too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to talk about kind of like what we know she's a god now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to talk about like the how she gets her power or like how she stays alive right like these like no list dudes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what else to call them these little demon guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: bring her in a mailman and we see her do the same thing she did with like the security officer that episode we met her where she like literally inserts her hands into his head and there's a bunch of light and she quote unquote drinks and then like that he seems to heal her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She looks like gray, sweaty, very ill and then this seems to help her but the thing is Sarah,

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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't die as a result of this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like zombie-ish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So is she doing this to the psych patients that we met, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I think so, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, so now we know Gloria's a god and how did Gloria come into a mortal body onto this earth?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but she obviously needs to suck energy from

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[SPEAKER_02]: people human so I think that what she probably does is go to people that like she thinks like aren't missed don't matter so typically she goes towards like these psych patients sex their energy they stay alive until they go crazy and then they eventually I forget how like most of these like psych patients die like do they well they died because that crazy demon

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, but I think like that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that makes me think like, was there a time where glory got her hands, somehow on joys?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like temporarily, like a tiny touch, but it wasn't enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it happened so suddenly where she says, you're not real or you're not, you're, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, is there could it be, like, we were saying before when she became mortal that that moment, it was almost like a nuclear explosion sort of a thing where if you're in like the radius of it, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think that the tumor is connected to all of this I think like I did you even know we both agreed it is a medical tumor it's like a magical tumor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that, yeah, so I think that she, like, X-Aps, these energy, and then these people go, like, insane, but they also have some sort of, like, clue to what's going on, especially when they see potassium makes sense, because then, like, because glory,

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[SPEAKER_02]: is literally in front of dawn and like doesn't have any realization or anything but she doesn't know she's the key because she needs buffet to tell her who the key is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's interesting like the parallels between vampires who suck humans blood to continue to exist right there or mortal that's how they continue to exist and glory who seems to like take like almost

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[SPEAKER_03]: like it's in power, but it's also just like their, it like their souls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like essence.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But either way, she's now feeling better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And these little demon guys, these little nose tell her that the signs of the alignment are moving faster than expected.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So she has to use the key even quicker than she thought.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, what the signs of the alignment of the planet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of what it may speak think of like how the planets orbit, it like kind of, like, let's bring in an astrology like Saturn is in the same place that

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[SPEAKER_02]: Saturn is in like a place when like your born and then like 29 years later goes to the exact same place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm thinking like she needs like some sort of like orbital shift or like some sort of like

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[SPEAKER_02]: plates of some sort to align and order for the portal to like open up and go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But didn't they already do this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, didn't the, didn't the mayor need to do it a certain time for him to do his right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I mean, I don't think that's like out of the ordinary for like, oh, this specific thing only happens once every however many years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's important that it happens now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, they could do that again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think that's like, repeating this story, you know, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I think that, so she, so it's moving quicker than anticipated, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I love her saying, like, oh, well, if all I have to do with this mouse TV vampire slayer, then I'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was really funny though, so we're at the line of too many demons, not enough retail outlets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is so funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Glory is upset because there's not enough good shopping in, um, I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If she doesn't like sunny day, I mean, who does really, who would, but we need to talk about her relationship with Dr. Ben because she sends one of the minions out to try to get information from him on where the slayer is because she has a feeling that he knows information.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Dr. Ben says, oh, I don't know any Slayer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so then he, the guy, mentions Buffie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, what, Buffie Summers is the Slayer?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, so this is so interesting to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that the fact that I figured Dr. Ben, new who Buffie was, was trying to get closer to her for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm thinking like, there's a reason he's getting closer to her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, glory's brother, or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is making me question that only because when the the minion guy returns to glory with the information like she calls him attractive like he says,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe probably not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My theory is- This is attractive because she's also attractive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, okay, so it's still a possible sibling, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or, okay, so you know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking to the cartoon Hercules, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How about this news?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Has that little, like, that little bitch boy that had-

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about Zeus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're in the clouds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're in the cloud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have like that little bitch boy with the little like wings on his ankles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I'm going to do tasks for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's also a god, but he's like not like a Zeus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a lesser god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a lesser god, is the possible that Dr. Ben is like basically that like he is a lesser god or like a lesser demigod or something and he's basically like his job like his whole life was just to be like Glory's bitch boy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What if he's a half sibling so he's only half god.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he doesn't have the full powers that she has

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he is saying, he tells the minion to relate to her that he doesn't want to help.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he accidentally does give her information that the slayer is buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if then that was like, I don't know how glory then found out where she lived.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's pretty easy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, you find out about Joyce being in the hospital and then you find out where buffy lives says, that's pretty easy to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: interesting like she glory is mad at Dr. Ben because he's not going to help and it seems like she wants to like suck his brains out or whatever the hell she does.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really intrigued by their relationship by Dr. Ben and Glory's relationship.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do think sibling still makes the attractive comment through me

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if we're looking at the parallels, it makes a lot of sense to have glory and Dr. Ben when you also have like Don and Buffy, like the same stuff, the attractive thing was in my mind, her complimenting herself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, of course he's attractive because obviously we share genetics.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I'm the hottest person that's ever existed even though I'm not person, but yeah, that's how I read it, but the but the context of like him possibly being

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[SPEAKER_03]: whoever they share a parent whether mother father whatever they share a parent what if that parent is like go help your sister keep an eye on her yeah she doesn't get into trouble so he's like I need to stop her from getting into trouble she's of course causing fucking trouble Yeah, yeah exactly I think like that would make a lot of a lot of sense if that's what is in like he's probably like always had to do that

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I loved her showing up at Buffie's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was this scene with so magnetic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so good, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, I mean, like her presence is just spectacular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The writers, the creators, like really nailed this character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the actress, she just feels like a phenomenal job with like how she,

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[SPEAKER_02]: How she perlays how she says all of her lines like she's a she's a scene stealer like I can't keep my eyes off of her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like beautiful and scary and manic and dangerous and I just love watching her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: say anything but also she says it as though she's like share harrow it's and i'm just like obsessed it's like she is share if share was absolutely evil as fuck and that's so cool like if i can think of like

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[SPEAKER_02]: my dream, my dream villain like that would be it like I love her and like so quintessential like late nineties early 2000s to just the cadence of what she speaks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like a total knockout and like everything that she says and the way that she talks to Buffy and it's just like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, this one line that she says, she's like, you can't beat me, and she's like, she can't beat me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, you can't get me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, you can't feel like what she's saying, it was so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way she said, she said, it was so good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She says a couple different things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So she says, you may be a tiny queen in a vampire world, but to me, you're a bug.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You should get down on your knees and worship me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she also says, Oh, you think it's still neat having slayer strength.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, big deal, stronger than humans.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who isn't?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could crush the life from you as easy as you'd break a nail.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are two things that stuck out on Buffy's head because she calls back in her like power monologue later on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But just like the way that she's

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just like the terror in Buffy's eyes, I mean, like you got to play a cool Buffy, like, come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But essentially, like how she interacts with Dawn as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's your, yeah, well, doesn't it suck like when, like, your sister takes stuff that isn't yours, Donnie, and then she, um, you know, Don does her typical, like, I know a stuff that you don't know, and yeah, you're always talking about stuff I'm not supposed to hear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, it's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, Buffy is terrified because the last thing she wants is for Don to be anywhere near glory Like because either glory could really she's the key glory could hurt her, but glory immediately I mean, obviously Laurie knows where where to poke Buffy where to threaten her

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she says, like, oh, kill her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll kill your mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll kill your friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll make you watch it when I do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just give me the key.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You either have it or you know where to find it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously this is a one time only deal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Next time we meet something you love dies bloody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know you can't take me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know you can't stop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those were, you know, you can't take me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can't stop me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the way she's like sitting in the lazy boy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The entire time too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's like relax.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's supposed to grab the poker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She like knows already.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she really, she really is like buff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has met her match in, in wits in banter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's a tougher fighter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta be honest to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's the revelation that Gloria's a God and how cool she is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but maybe we should just end the show now and Gloria can win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like it would be okay, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, like, you're, like, we can't fight a God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why are we even trying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just like give Gloria the key.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then let's just have the glory show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you have the world and it doesn't really matter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Glorious the best.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of on team glory here, but you want to keep it with hers for the key.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is kind of what this is what triggers Buffy at first to be like the reason I'm alive is because I know where the key is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have something that glory doesn't just.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And therefore I also have something the watchers don't like I have more information and I have more power.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so she comes in and she is just she takes her fucking dick out and she whips it around the room and she says, you know what there isn't going to be review.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have this big revelation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have power of the they don't and it bothers them glory came into my home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we talked because she needs something for me because I have power over her and she talks all about like, oh, the reason the watchers came all the way to California was because they wanted to basically beg them to give her their jobs, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like their lives have to have some semblance of meaning, but they can't stop glory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like

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[SPEAKER_03]: no one can.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they have to work together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I love her basically being like, you all can go fuck yourselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to give Giles his job back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to give him salary retroactively back to when you he got fired.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when they are trying to speak up the the slot for spike tries to speak up and just like, well, what about the civilians?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, we have two powerful witches in a powerful ex-demon where we get the, I don't

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Willow was a demon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's such a cool, and then when he's like, what about the boy?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The boy has clocked more field time than all of you put together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love her strutting her shit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And basically being like, I'm better than all of you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You need me more than I need you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So why don't we fucking work together?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can go back to England, call me, I'll call you

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was so, I, I don't know, I watched this, I just watched the speech itself twice and the second time, I couldn't help but be looking at jiles because he looked so proud in the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was truly a phenomenal scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this monologue and is great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I just complimented Gloria and that actress on her, how she gave those lines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is once again like Buffy Summers remembered that she was Buffy Summers, the vampire slayer, the chosen one, like obsessed with a bunch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to see Buffy, I think like the part of what was lacking from Buffy,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably this maybe this whole season or like probably because like there's been like a lot of shit going on in her life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she started to lose like her confidence in herself herself assurance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's been like doubting herself a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She had that conversation with Giles earlier in the episode, which is like I just don't know if I've been making them right decisions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I love that she gets this confidence back and like her self assurance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's just like, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am the slayer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know who I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I know that I have the power.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have the upper hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody needs me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she says that she doesn't need them, but like she doesn't need, she needs her scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she needs her gang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she doesn't need,

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[SPEAKER_02]: watchers or this is the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't need the bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was really great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the monologue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was so well done and it was just like this was just like a reminder of why the character of Buffy is so

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[SPEAKER_02]: phenomenal, especially because just great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that's also why seeing glory is a lot of fun, just like a strong woman who exudes confidence and strength.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that's really exciting to see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's probably why...

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know last episode we did like rankings and I rated or I ranked Buffy lower and I think it's because like you know for four seasons five seasons I've been like Buffy's grades like such a great like it's so phenomenal to have such a strong female protagonist it's really valuable and I think like this season just because I mean we can't all be strong all the time even Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and between the breakup and the Riley shit and done and her mom, like she wasn't able to find that inner strength, but she took her power back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She took her,

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[SPEAKER_02]: She took her ship back and it was just like really great to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I loved that she like negotiated for Giles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like back on the payroll.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting retroactively paid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it would've been great if she also advocated for herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you again, we need a you again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why you workers comp?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that she doesn't want to be on the watchers payroll, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she has to be owned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like a part of me feels like she didn't want to go she with them for herself because it's one thing for like jiles to get that shit because we can see that he like wanted it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that she just doesn't want to be owned in any capacity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if I had to guess that's why she wasn't like, and I need

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[SPEAKER_02]: 150,000 K a year and really good health insurance like the top tier like the platinum level health insurance and I want good dental to you know I just think that like she doesn't want to be owned or under somebody's payroll she didn't also like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to get like ten ninety-nine like taxes like you can't get really fucked in the ass So, but she's not getting paid anything right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, why does she need money?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why does she need money?

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[SPEAKER_02]: To live!

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen Buffy spend a dime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever seen yours?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who's paying for a college?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Joyce probably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen Buffy spend any money ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't have any more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't have any money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, she's rocking up those credit card bills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like charge card?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what charge card is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she thinks it's a credit card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now she's going to pay back $300.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All in once.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference?

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[SPEAKER_03]: For Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, the she works it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love getting the Scoobies all sitting up unlike the upper, they get like a nice front where a view of this entire situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then like cheering her on, I just thought this really lovely and they finally come to an agreement like the watchers don't have a like to stand on so they have to agree to buff East demands basically.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And and yeah, we we have like kind of one more little thing to talk about and it's basically as a result of.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything that happened with Glory and the fact that Glory has now been in their home and it's not as simple as like, oh, she's a vampire and we can say she's uninvited, no glory can just come in any time she pleases, so Buffy needs to bring Joyce and Dawn to a safe space and the safe space the she chooses is spikescript and this is after

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is after they have a huge blow up when Buffy is laying and Spike comes in and like basically stills her kill and she goes off an ally never need you spike and he is so mean to her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so mean to her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's basically like, oh, Riley's run off, but he says, I don't need a boyfriend to rescue me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when he says, oh, you don't need or can't keep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you keep making notches in the headboard but eventually they get up out of the bed and they run off don't day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he says, oh, maybe that's your problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You push him away or is it the other?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you cling too much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe your beauty's fading, the stress of slaying, aging you prematurely, things not as high, not as firm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what the fuck?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he says like, oh, maybe you just don't hold their interest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it is, again, there's a difference between like slight cute jabs, like fun, flirty jabs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And being like, you can't keep a boyfriend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They all leave you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like none of them love you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, woo, it is rough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like you've been like very, very high on like spike, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hated this if you're like a little bit of an egg because it's yes because it felt it felt too cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it felt like I'm going to twist the knife like it didn't feel like oh I secretly like you and felt like I hate you and these are all the things that you probably think about yourself and like I'm just going to like pull on your insecurities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was horrible like listen luckily it's not going to matter because now that Dawn and

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, I mean, this is how he gets his in, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Don and Joyce are now living there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don, we see, she's a stare listener.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is going to find out she is going to suss out immediately.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Spike Lake's Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So she's going to know and Joyce and Spike are bonding over passions.

52:16.627 --> 52:18.790
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, yeah, that's not to love here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be part of the family.

52:19.991 --> 52:23.796
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, like all the stuff is

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[SPEAKER_02]: fine as like a funny ha ha character, but he's just going to have to do a lot of work on himself in order for me to get behind this ship, which is okay because you know what like I have I have conquered mountains before with fandoms and beloved ships and it's okay it's fine.

52:49.173 --> 52:55.928
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I had to conquer the the jocce lovers and that was hard.

52:56.569 --> 52:57.130
[SPEAKER_02]: That was hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can, I can handle the spuffy, the spuffy gang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And because they're relentless, but it's fine.

53:05.789 --> 53:09.477
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, he has a tendency to be cruel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it was really cool.

53:11.581 --> 53:13.805
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hurt people, hurt people, right?

53:13.865 --> 53:15.869
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we hear this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where it's coming from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is acting out because he wants her and he can't have her and it's making him angry.

53:26.470 --> 53:31.279
[SPEAKER_02]: But once again, it's just like,

53:31.259 --> 53:49.244
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this something that like is it's just going to be toxic and that's like and I think Buffy likes it a little bit like sometimes our female protagonists really like their toxic men and you know who I'm thinking about Veronica Mars, you know what I mean, like can't even get started on that.

53:49.324 --> 53:50.586
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I get stole man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it.

53:51.928 --> 53:52.609
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it.

53:52.589 --> 53:58.466
[SPEAKER_02]: even though the entire time, like if Veronica was my friend, I would be like stay away from that man.

53:58.506 --> 53:59.589
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stay away from that man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is that sometimes people deserve each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for Monica Mars and Logan deserve each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes you just have to accept that, you know, yeah, that is my, that is my hot take of the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's not very much of a hot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just think like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: ah, I feel like we, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here for the spike crush.

54:29.201 --> 54:30.063
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's funny.

54:30.083 --> 54:35.070
[SPEAKER_03]: I do enjoy the like him asking about Buffy to like literally anyone who has any connection to her.

54:35.090 --> 54:44.264
[SPEAKER_03]: I just like he goes so far where it is like you are poking at all of her insecurities.

54:44.685 --> 54:48.651
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, such a rude mean way that like,

54:49.964 --> 54:56.790
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting that Buffy then chooses spike, I mean, listen, she's not going to choose any of the scoobies, right?

54:56.810 --> 54:59.593
[SPEAKER_03]: It is so easy to be honest, you know, that's the thing.

54:59.873 --> 55:11.664
[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy, like, she's not going to send them to jiles on any of those people because number one, they don't actually have slayer powers, like they are not strong enough to defend anyone against glory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Buffy isn't even strong enough to handle glory.

55:14.206 --> 55:18.570
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like, the only person she knows that is strong enough is spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is enough to maybe fight off somebody and to get them into a safe haven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think that spike is nearly strong enough to take on glory.

55:30.308 --> 55:32.131
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not ultimately no.

55:32.171 --> 55:33.714
[SPEAKER_03]: But again, like you said, like, friend, her off.

55:33.734 --> 55:38.321
[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is, it's interesting that Buffy trusts him to do this.

55:38.441 --> 55:45.572
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because he, for all she knows, unless there's something else unless she feels the kissing, right?

55:45.932 --> 55:46.954
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for all intents and purposes like he hates her.

55:49.641 --> 55:52.746
[SPEAKER_03]: And she threatens like, if you let them die, I'll kill you.

55:52.786 --> 55:56.273
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, but that's still like a lot of trust to put into somebody.

55:56.293 --> 55:58.517
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just very interesting.

55:58.657 --> 56:01.623
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, this is in, obviously, this is how things will take off.

56:02.103 --> 56:07.814
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's, I mean, I assume, but it is just very interesting that she chose Spike again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't have a ton of...

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, she didn't have to turn off options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I think in an ideal world, like, maybe she would have sent them off with Riley and then like be like Riley, like can you bring them to like the underground bunkers, whatever, like, but she really, she had no other options.

56:27.758 --> 56:33.765
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, I mean, angels, like she probably would have, like, if angel was still around and not.

56:34.235 --> 56:43.260
[SPEAKER_02]: being a fucking joke in Los Angeles, then I'm sure she would have trusted Angel, but you know, like who else can she really turn to?

56:43.280 --> 56:48.936
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, this is also in times of need, like you

56:49.237 --> 56:51.863
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of, I don't know, like I do agree with you.

56:51.903 --> 57:05.035
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's interesting that like this was the ultimately the person that she brought the two most important people to in her life, and I think that,

57:05.015 --> 57:26.280
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that he's going to do it just as, like, I think that the, like, outwardly he throws chocolates at a dummy that has her likeness and says cruel things, but like, I think that this ray, he would do absolutely anything for her, um, because

57:26.446 --> 57:43.450
[SPEAKER_02]: he has this infatuation with her and there's just something about her that he's like very much drawn to and I think that like she makes him somehow a better person or want to strive to be a better person.

57:43.550 --> 57:44.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

57:44.131 --> 57:52.790
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think eventually she will make him a better person, but at this moment, just the fact that she's this makes him want to try.

57:52.810 --> 58:02.612
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that he is going to try, I think that he is going to do his best to protect Joyce and Dawn.

58:02.592 --> 58:08.017
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it needs to be nervous, but I also think that we're going to get some really funny moments with them in the crept.

58:08.037 --> 58:12.602
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, the the joys and spike bonding over passions.

58:12.622 --> 58:19.408
[SPEAKER_02]: We've already seen them have multiple interactions and some sort of like a weird friendship.

58:19.428 --> 58:27.016
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, isn't that how joys initially got or excuse me, how spike initially got inside the invite inside the house was.

58:27.056 --> 58:27.857
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, boys.

58:28.317 --> 58:28.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

58:29.258 --> 58:31.300
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that.

58:31.482 --> 58:39.422
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be funny to see Don match spikes, match spikes, sassiness.

58:40.504 --> 58:46.960
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's pretty funny interactions as well.

58:46.940 --> 59:02.232
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, like I think that those scenes are going to be goals, especially like I maybe like we'll see like joys like trying to like sweep the crypt and like redecorate it and he will like this is my my crap, I like get the way this is this like home, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: had for like three years, like I don't know, something like that.

59:06.015 --> 59:10.659
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can only imagine with Dawn being absolutely bored and stuck in here.

59:10.699 --> 59:14.703
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, she's going to find like his diary or something like that.

59:14.743 --> 59:20.708
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be so funny, um, or like, you know, she has a diary.

59:20.768 --> 59:21.989
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he find her diary.

59:22.049 --> 59:22.410
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

59:22.750 --> 59:32.218
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be really funny when like three people are literally stuck in one place, I mean, like how, I mean, I am curious.

59:32.198 --> 59:51.388
[SPEAKER_02]: going to be going out into the world and like grocery shopping for them like they can't drink blood like how are they going to do this because is it that like now they literally can't go anywhere like Joyce can't go to work and not that she's been going to work but Don can't go to school like there's just stuck in the crypt

59:51.368 --> 59:52.730
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, that's the thing.

59:52.791 --> 59:54.173
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to be tricky.

59:54.233 --> 01:00:03.049
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know how you keep them locked up for it really is like a there's no time limit on it right now.

01:00:03.630 --> 01:00:13.468
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know like a spike going to he can't follow them during the daytime is the thing like if you're trying to have him like follow them around like you can do this during the day and under the blanket.

01:00:14.150 --> 01:00:15.452
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good call the blanket.

01:00:15.432 --> 01:00:16.714
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know.

01:00:17.055 --> 01:00:17.315
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

01:00:17.415 --> 01:00:18.237
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very interesting.

01:00:18.277 --> 01:00:20.521
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is certainly going to develop that stuff more.

01:00:20.541 --> 01:00:21.582
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be really fun.

01:00:21.623 --> 01:00:26.711
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm definitely putting my money down on Dawn being the one to figure out the spike crush first.

01:00:27.553 --> 01:00:33.883
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, which I think would be really nice pretty pretty intuitive pretty very insightful per buffee.

01:00:34.464 --> 01:00:35.466
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:00:35.446 --> 01:00:38.490
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, so that's our episode of Buffy.

01:00:38.510 --> 01:00:42.835
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I also watched the episode of Angel Blood Money.

01:00:42.855 --> 01:00:46.459
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, are you ready to hear about what the fuck happened and see?

01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:48.822
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is it sounds like it will be a doozy.

01:00:48.982 --> 01:00:50.244
[SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty fun, actually.

01:00:50.284 --> 01:00:50.905
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna lie.

01:00:50.925 --> 01:00:52.607
[SPEAKER_03]: I did, I thought it was pretty fun.

01:00:53.087 --> 01:00:57.893
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so first of all, are you surprised to hear that Wesleyan gun really like to play the game risk?

01:00:58.717 --> 01:01:01.262
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I don't even know what the game risk is.

01:01:01.322 --> 01:01:04.669
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure your husband is big fan of risk.

01:01:04.689 --> 01:01:08.437
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think I know for a fact we own risk actually.

01:01:08.898 --> 01:01:17.395
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a really, really old version of it from his grandfather, but I myself have, I don't think I've ever played.

01:01:18.217 --> 01:01:19.459
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well,

01:01:19.439 --> 01:01:21.502
[SPEAKER_03]: He, they, they do play.

01:01:21.542 --> 01:01:22.383
[SPEAKER_03]: They play risk.

01:01:22.704 --> 01:01:26.710
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and a courier has had enough courier says get out of my apartment.

01:01:26.910 --> 01:01:27.711
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like tired of this.

01:01:27.751 --> 01:01:29.654
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to start their own business together.

01:01:29.694 --> 01:01:33.620
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that the angel has fired them, they're planning on starting a whole situation together.

01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:39.669
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is then so courier obviously has a vision and they, like, slay a demon.

01:01:39.769 --> 01:01:44.596
[SPEAKER_03]: And they do win their terrified, but they do win and they're like all proud of themselves about it.

01:01:45.177 --> 01:01:48.602
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do have something

01:01:48.582 --> 01:01:51.325
[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to warn you, it's very upsetting.

01:01:52.226 --> 01:01:53.268
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really upsetting.

01:01:54.029 --> 01:01:55.931
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to show you really quick.

01:02:05.102 --> 01:02:17.998
[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

01:02:18.451 --> 01:02:20.715
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I just want to quit podcasting.

01:02:25.464 --> 01:02:26.406
[SPEAKER_02]: I do this anymore.

01:02:26.466 --> 01:02:28.169
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just too hard.

01:02:28.189 --> 01:02:29.090
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:29.611 --> 01:02:30.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

01:02:30.433 --> 01:02:31.154
[SPEAKER_03]: I why.

01:02:35.442 --> 01:02:38.648
[SPEAKER_03]: So now she has a, uh, a, uh, a Bob.

01:02:38.728 --> 01:02:42.535
[SPEAKER_03]: Why, uh, a, a, a Bob with like some really awful side bangs.

01:02:42.515 --> 01:02:44.979
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like they dyed it lighter too.

01:02:45.640 --> 01:02:46.100
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they did.

01:02:46.161 --> 01:02:46.401
[SPEAKER_03]: They did.

01:02:46.501 --> 01:02:50.407
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried to get a better picture of it for you, but like truly the show is so dark.

01:02:50.487 --> 01:02:51.769
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't turn the lights on.

01:02:51.789 --> 01:02:54.754
[SPEAKER_02]: You understand, like this girl's supposed to be 20 years old.

01:02:55.154 --> 01:02:56.256
[SPEAKER_02]: Why does she look 45?

01:02:56.616 --> 01:02:58.579
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand what they're doing.

01:02:58.619 --> 01:02:59.761
[SPEAKER_03]: They did bad things to her.

01:03:00.182 --> 01:03:00.522
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

01:03:00.642 --> 01:03:01.564
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is this?

01:03:01.664 --> 01:03:02.565
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

01:03:03.006 --> 01:03:05.670
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm taking it off the screen now because it's it's just that upsetting.

01:03:05.650 --> 01:03:09.616
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't handle this.

01:03:09.957 --> 01:03:12.842
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's what's happening over there.

01:03:12.902 --> 01:03:18.190
[SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile Angel has been like not stop lightly stalking a woman.

01:03:18.671 --> 01:03:22.918
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to see if you, oh my god, I got to see if you're in trouble.

01:03:23.339 --> 01:03:24.420
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's actually not that.

01:03:24.500 --> 01:03:25.442
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the opposite this time.

01:03:25.482 --> 01:03:29.228
[SPEAKER_03]: So she runs a youth center, like a youth shelter.

01:03:29.208 --> 01:03:39.339
[SPEAKER_03]: And he knows via this guy, he hired to like take pictures or something that she is in cohoots with Lindsey and that whole will from gay.

01:03:39.720 --> 01:03:39.920
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:03:39.940 --> 01:03:41.422
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's like, what the hell's going on?

01:03:41.482 --> 01:03:45.747
[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to find out does she know how bad they are or like what's the situation?

01:03:46.347 --> 01:03:57.780
[SPEAKER_03]: And basically the Lloyd law office is throwing this huge kind of like

01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:03.428
[SPEAKER_03]: And Angel's like, well, they're going to, yeah, and Angel's like, well, they're going to take like 95% of it.

01:04:03.448 --> 01:04:07.213
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, okay, but 5% of a lot of money is still a lot of money.

01:04:07.233 --> 01:04:08.194
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like true.

01:04:08.274 --> 01:04:09.556
[SPEAKER_03]: The shelter needs the money.

01:04:10.157 --> 01:04:16.225
[SPEAKER_03]: So Angel, then we find this other guy comes in and he is doing his boon.

01:04:16.205 --> 01:04:32.104
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's some demon and apparently him and Angel have this big rivalry in terms of like they fought one time and it was like this big deal and it was like this all out brawl and both of them like almost died, but like a fun way and like a bar fightie, let's go in the ring and punch each other sort of away.

01:04:32.185 --> 01:04:38.480
[SPEAKER_03]: So he comes in and he acts like he's after Angel and then they end up working together.

01:04:38.520 --> 01:04:39.622
[SPEAKER_03]: They're in cohoots together.

01:04:39.682 --> 01:04:49.485
[SPEAKER_03]: So at the gala Angel basically makes Lindsey and that other lady think that he has them something incriminating on tape.

01:04:49.465 --> 01:04:51.048
[SPEAKER_03]: He gives it to shelter girl.

01:04:51.348 --> 01:04:53.392
[SPEAKER_03]: Shelter girl goes to put it in the machine.

01:04:53.432 --> 01:05:02.728
[SPEAKER_03]: And then what comes on screen is like a bunch of courties like acting application videos.

01:05:03.208 --> 01:05:08.057
[SPEAKER_03]: And real, yes, and she has a terrible wig on because they have to hide the, it's like really got extensions.

01:05:08.537 --> 01:05:12.224
[SPEAKER_03]: And in it, she's drinking, she goes, mm, milk.

01:05:12.785 --> 01:05:13.566
[SPEAKER_03]: No.

01:05:13.546 --> 01:05:18.252
[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's like videos of like Wesley dancing and it's really, really funny.

01:05:18.913 --> 01:05:19.954
[SPEAKER_03]: Boom, boom, boom.

01:05:20.315 --> 01:05:33.051
[SPEAKER_03]: And so Angel's like ha ha gotcha made you think that I had something incriminating on you while they were distracted, boon took all the money and left so then shelter girls like what the hell Angel like I'm not going to get any of that money.

01:05:33.091 --> 01:05:35.133
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, I don't really care because you know what?

01:05:35.294 --> 01:05:36.635
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like tainted anyway.

01:05:36.675 --> 01:05:37.917
[SPEAKER_03]: She like smacks him.

01:05:37.897 --> 01:05:43.804
[SPEAKER_03]: who comes in and boon and angel end up in this fight for the money.

01:05:43.864 --> 01:05:52.134
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a re-natch basically from all of the money that was taken from the gala, which also some people donated jewelry to you, which I was like this is so weird.

01:05:52.354 --> 01:05:57.119
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if they donated jewelry, it had been like a silent auction.

01:05:57.260 --> 01:06:00.544
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it literally was like they're putting it in an envelope and like putting it in a bag.

01:06:00.584 --> 01:06:01.845
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was so strange that

01:06:01.825 --> 01:06:16.535
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, so him and Boon fight and Angel wins the money and so he brings the entirety of the money to shelter girl and can I just I'm going to ask you to guess what color hair do you think shelter girl had blonde obviously.

01:06:16.896 --> 01:06:18.619
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, man has a problem.

01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:20.220
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he does have a real problem.

01:06:20.501 --> 01:06:27.547
[SPEAKER_03]: Something that you would advantage for the episode that he does is he originally goes to the shelter under the guys of donating clothes.

01:06:27.987 --> 01:06:30.450
[SPEAKER_03]: He donates a bunch of courties clothes.

01:06:30.470 --> 01:06:32.251
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, he did.

01:06:32.271 --> 01:06:32.952
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.

01:06:32.972 --> 01:06:33.933
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.

01:06:34.013 --> 01:06:36.015
[SPEAKER_03]: That is evil.

01:06:36.075 --> 01:06:36.475
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:06:36.695 --> 01:06:37.156
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:06:37.176 --> 01:06:37.696
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

01:06:37.816 --> 01:06:39.258
[SPEAKER_03]: Please, John with this man.

01:06:39.318 --> 01:06:43.321
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's kind of on a little bit of a streak of like, I'm no nonsense.

01:06:43.341 --> 01:06:44.302
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't right now.

01:06:44.322 --> 01:06:48.606
[SPEAKER_03]: He is Angela's because he

01:06:48.586 --> 01:06:55.714
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think worse than worse in this area than stealing courtes, clothes and donating them without permission.

01:06:56.035 --> 01:07:03.524
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was like a pretty fun episode, mostly because of the courty reels of, mmm, milk, and watching Wesley and Gun play risk.

01:07:03.544 --> 01:07:04.625
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought it was really fun.

01:07:04.645 --> 01:07:11.693
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so anyway, they're talking about redoing their business and we'll see what they come up with because they have to redo the business cards because it has an angel on it.

01:07:12.514 --> 01:07:14.677
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so anyway, that was angel.

01:07:14.717 --> 01:07:15.698
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the episode of angel.

01:07:15.778 --> 01:07:16.299
[SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't you bad?

01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:17.580
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was pretty fun.

01:07:17.560 --> 01:07:18.001
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:07:18.201 --> 01:07:19.302
[SPEAKER_02]: It just didn't move the plot.

01:07:19.362 --> 01:07:20.764
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like a story of the week.

01:07:21.565 --> 01:07:21.786
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:07:21.826 --> 01:07:22.687
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like Lindsay.

01:07:22.747 --> 01:07:25.310
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and oh, well, then there was one other thing I left to actually.

01:07:25.410 --> 01:07:26.131
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

01:07:26.171 --> 01:07:26.732
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you?

01:07:26.752 --> 01:07:28.394
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you trying to keep secrets for me?

01:07:28.434 --> 01:07:29.576
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

01:07:30.057 --> 01:07:37.907
[SPEAKER_03]: This other like guy who's kind of in charge at Wolfram and Hart like Lindsay and this lady are like, Why can't we kill Angel?

01:07:37.987 --> 01:07:38.788
[SPEAKER_03]: He's so annoying.

01:07:38.868 --> 01:07:40.210
[SPEAKER_03]: He's always getting in our way.

01:07:40.190 --> 01:07:49.284
[SPEAKER_03]: And the guy's like because the prophecy says he's important now if he's on the other side of the prophecy even still he's in the prophecy So we have to keep him alive.

01:07:49.304 --> 01:07:51.367
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're bringing it at the prophecy again basically.

01:07:51.767 --> 01:08:01.081
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well So anyway, well, uh, you know that there's a lot of shocking stuff that happens.

01:08:01.161 --> 01:08:02.503
[SPEAKER_02]: They haircut being the number one.

01:08:02.584 --> 01:08:03.565
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

01:08:03.781 --> 01:08:05.403
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's happening over here.

01:08:06.123 --> 01:08:06.844
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why?

01:08:06.864 --> 01:08:08.886
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what the thing is?

01:08:09.127 --> 01:08:11.449
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a two bad aircuts in one season.

01:08:11.509 --> 01:08:12.930
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's been like three episodes?

01:08:13.291 --> 01:08:20.779
[SPEAKER_02]: The old bad haircut was starting to grow on me because like when she, when it was starting to grow out, I was like, oh, maybe it's not that bad.

01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:23.461
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they, they double down.

01:08:23.521 --> 01:08:25.383
[SPEAKER_02]: They double it off, yeah.

01:08:25.523 --> 01:08:30.008
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't, I don't, I just, I just malfunctioned.

01:08:29.988 --> 01:08:30.649
[SPEAKER_02]: Fair enough.

01:08:31.130 --> 01:08:31.630
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fair enough.

01:08:31.730 --> 01:08:32.071
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:08:32.511 --> 01:08:33.152
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not functioned.

01:08:33.793 --> 01:08:34.915
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

01:08:35.856 --> 01:08:37.057
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, let's talk about some feedback.

01:08:37.077 --> 01:08:38.419
[SPEAKER_03]: We got we got two emails.

01:08:38.860 --> 01:08:40.041
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, first from Sophie.

01:08:40.081 --> 01:08:40.923
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, Sarah and Jess.

01:08:40.983 --> 01:08:45.449
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we are already at the halfway point of season five from here until the finale.

01:08:45.469 --> 01:08:53.159
[SPEAKER_03]: We're entering what are in my opinion the best and strongest consecutive episodes of the series.

01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:53.740
[SPEAKER_03]: Naps.

01:08:54.240 --> 01:08:57.885
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Sophie wants to know how we're liking season five is a

01:08:57.865 --> 01:09:03.083
[SPEAKER_02]: Quite honestly, I think that season five is my favorite thus far.

01:09:03.333 --> 01:09:05.516
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, high praise considering we're only halfway through.

01:09:05.556 --> 01:09:08.139
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:13.005
[SPEAKER_03]: You just saying, like, I think, okay, maybe this is where I stand and this probably sounds crazy.

01:09:13.266 --> 01:09:15.669
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, but keep in mind that we're 12 episodes in.

01:09:15.689 --> 01:09:16.910
[SPEAKER_03]: So we haven't seen the whole season.

01:09:17.311 --> 01:09:18.232
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:09:18.252 --> 01:09:23.138
[SPEAKER_03]: I really loved season 4 because it felt so fresh because it was like we're starting college.

01:09:23.178 --> 01:09:24.880
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like new things going on.

01:09:25.381 --> 01:09:27.183
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it was so exciting.

01:09:27.724 --> 01:09:31.669
[SPEAKER_03]: And I haven't gotten there yet with season 5.

01:09:31.649 --> 01:09:37.296
[SPEAKER_03]: the potential of glory is what's like keeping me want to more glory.

01:09:37.316 --> 01:09:39.999
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'll tell you what's working for me with this season.

01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:42.683
[SPEAKER_02]: The don twist I thought was incredible.

01:09:43.063 --> 01:09:47.168
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the glory stuff is like really driving the season.

01:09:47.188 --> 01:09:53.556
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that her twist of being a god is really incredible.

01:09:53.536 --> 01:10:07.171
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's been a lot of like emotional scenes like I think back to the scene where Buffy was crying outside on the porch about her mom and she just let like spike right next to her.

01:10:07.611 --> 01:10:16.641
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the first time that I ever got emotional at the show to my memory.

01:10:16.621 --> 01:10:34.359
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that like also like relating to having like a sick parent is like always something that I'm drawn to so I think like for all of these reasons I just think that the sparse just like a really strong season for is great because it was a lot of fun.

01:10:34.419 --> 01:10:37.002
[SPEAKER_02]: We had we had fun.

01:10:37.102 --> 01:10:41.066
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like that's the family we like a lot of the times when we podcast.

01:10:42.467 --> 01:10:45.210
[SPEAKER_02]: The amount of fun that we have podcasting.

01:10:45.190 --> 01:10:51.183
[SPEAKER_02]: dictate how well a season or a show or an episode is ranked.

01:10:51.724 --> 01:11:03.570
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that it's like going to be always like a soft spot for us probably, but yeah, like the twist and the turns that they're taking in this season.

01:11:03.550 --> 01:11:06.373
[SPEAKER_02]: is really exciting for me.

01:11:07.235 --> 01:11:12.361
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do think the Dawn stuff is really, really solid, and I'm really enjoying glory.

01:11:12.501 --> 01:11:26.318
[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like to Sophie's point, we haven't invested all of our time into the glory stuff yet, so I'm waiting to get to that point where it's like, and now we're really focusing on Big Bad.

01:11:26.298 --> 01:11:28.444
[SPEAKER_03]: I also will say I really even enjoyed this bike stuff.

01:11:28.464 --> 01:11:31.812
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think he's just like a fun little twist to have him have such a crush on Buffy.

01:11:32.093 --> 01:11:34.900
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that one gets the spike episode.

01:11:35.662 --> 01:11:36.785
[SPEAKER_03]: He's such a fun person.

01:11:37.266 --> 01:11:38.129
[SPEAKER_03]: It's my play.

01:11:38.149 --> 01:11:40.074
[SPEAKER_03]: The spike episode was phenomenal as well.

01:11:40.976 --> 01:11:41.758
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

01:11:41.738 --> 01:11:49.109
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so Sophie also says just going to keep a short and sweet this time SMG's hair this season is fire Totally a great.

01:11:49.129 --> 01:11:49.790
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.

01:11:49.830 --> 01:11:51.172
[SPEAKER_03]: Her hair during the speech was in yes.

01:11:51.312 --> 01:11:54.396
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes Yes, it does not look mousey.

01:11:54.697 --> 01:12:01.246
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like it's kind of funny because in my head like she's like got called mouse See or whatever she's like I am not a bug.

01:12:01.346 --> 01:12:02.448
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not mousey.

01:12:02.528 --> 01:12:04.350
[SPEAKER_02]: My hair is beautiful.

01:12:04.711 --> 01:12:05.252
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks great.

01:12:05.372 --> 01:12:06.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

01:12:06.173 --> 01:12:09.036
[SPEAKER_03]: The Scoobies and Spike were hilarious this episode.

01:12:09.096 --> 01:12:10.578
[SPEAKER_03]: Buffy speech is greatness.

01:12:10.758 --> 01:12:12.240
[SPEAKER_03]: The Knights are stupid and annoying.

01:12:12.280 --> 01:12:13.421
[SPEAKER_03]: They're the worst part of the season.

01:12:13.581 --> 01:12:14.422
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody hates them.

01:12:14.763 --> 01:12:18.447
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I would really be interested to know if somebody out there actually likes them.

01:12:19.188 --> 01:12:20.729
[SPEAKER_03]: Bacos Sophie PS.

01:12:21.210 --> 01:12:26.115
[SPEAKER_03]: While I appreciate and admire Sarah's convictions and her obviously wrong opinions.

01:12:27.016 --> 01:12:28.018
[SPEAKER_03]: L.O.L.J.K.

01:12:28.038 --> 01:12:30.240
[SPEAKER_03]: Second, really?

01:12:30.220 --> 01:12:54.574
[SPEAKER_02]: for Riley's rings and it's like, okay, okay, so I know I know so I really do and I think that okay, so the thing is is that like if I didn't rank him second in my rankings, you know it's going to be a lie like right like if I ranked other people above him, I just like I've been talking and defending Riley for like two seasons right now.

01:12:54.554 --> 01:13:05.998
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, if I, but honestly, like, if we did the rankings this episode, it would probably would be like, Onya, Buffy, Riley, Zander.

01:13:06.215 --> 01:13:11.561
[SPEAKER_02]: I think my rankings are so myable, like I am.

01:13:12.382 --> 01:13:18.328
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the everybody knows that I am, you know, the Myers-Briggs, I am very feeling.

01:13:18.508 --> 01:13:23.514
[SPEAKER_02]: I lead everything, all my decisions by feeling, not by thought.

01:13:24.936 --> 01:13:25.496
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that right?

01:13:25.696 --> 01:13:27.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking, is that true?

01:13:27.158 --> 01:13:27.999
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are you?

01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:29.801
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a feeling or a thinking?

01:13:30.482 --> 01:13:30.842
[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking.

01:13:31.843 --> 01:13:32.644
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?

01:13:33.637 --> 01:13:41.473
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm very much feeling so like everything is like very driven by feeling.

01:13:41.713 --> 01:13:50.552
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why like by episode my rankings can change so much it was a tough one for Willow to be like for that to be the episode I was drinking.

01:13:50.592 --> 01:13:52.776
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

01:13:52.756 --> 01:13:54.899
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of, we got an email from Joe.

01:13:55.339 --> 01:13:58.603
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, ladies, you're friendly Canadian here just with a few notes.

01:13:58.804 --> 01:13:59.985
[SPEAKER_03]: First starting with the old.

01:14:00.125 --> 01:14:05.612
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm ripping through my Dawson's Creek rewatch with YouTube and loving it almost finished season five.

01:14:05.752 --> 01:14:08.997
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually may try and watch Felicity next with your podcast.

01:14:09.057 --> 01:14:10.078
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a lovely Joe.

01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.625
[SPEAKER_03]: Second, and maybe this one is too late, but just heard your character rankings.

01:14:15.605 --> 01:14:18.732
[SPEAKER_03]: and Zaryn Zander is ranked way too high.

01:14:18.792 --> 01:14:26.329
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the worst and always the worst, and most of what redeems him comes so much from who he somehow manages to date.

01:14:26.750 --> 01:14:34.407
[SPEAKER_03]: Cordy and Ania, how does he get so lucky with that the amazing female he ends up with, he's so bad, I will die on this hill.

01:14:34.387 --> 01:14:39.212
[SPEAKER_03]: That is so interesting because literally I was just looking earlier and I'm going to have to pull this up.

01:14:39.232 --> 01:14:41.875
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like ascended slayer is their username.

01:14:42.395 --> 01:14:46.980
[SPEAKER_03]: Literally said on our YouTube, it's like, oh my god, I'm so happy you're like turning around on Zander.

01:14:47.020 --> 01:14:47.781
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew you would.

01:14:47.841 --> 01:14:49.543
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I can't win.

01:14:50.344 --> 01:15:00.775
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's very much like there's a lot of people that like we knew that you would come around on Zander and then there's like a lot of people that are like, oh no, he's still kind of the worst.

01:15:00.815 --> 01:15:01.896
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's just like so

01:15:01.876 --> 01:15:06.702
[SPEAKER_03]: sometimes, but like, I have to give him credit like when he's earned it, you know?

01:15:06.722 --> 01:15:10.066
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, ascended ex-soyeon.

01:15:10.127 --> 01:15:10.647
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it is.

01:15:11.188 --> 01:15:12.229
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate to say I told you so.

01:15:12.329 --> 01:15:17.176
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't like to, but when it comes to Justin's anger, didn't I say he'd grow on you and move up in your rankings?

01:15:17.256 --> 01:15:18.017
[SPEAKER_03]: I told you so.

01:15:18.497 --> 01:15:19.198
[SPEAKER_03]: Told you so.

01:15:19.218 --> 01:15:23.824
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, I think like once again, I believe.

01:15:23.864 --> 01:15:26.888
[SPEAKER_02]: I think

01:15:26.868 --> 01:15:38.715
[SPEAKER_02]: conversation that Zander had with Buffy works so well for you is because as a friend, that's how you would address a friend that's been going through.

01:15:38.915 --> 01:15:40.599
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the situation.

01:15:40.619 --> 01:15:42.784
[SPEAKER_02]: It was very much like

01:15:43.203 --> 01:15:49.074
[SPEAKER_02]: You are good at being like, not blunt, but direct like that.

01:15:49.214 --> 01:15:58.330
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that like he gained respect from you from my conversation because I think that you saw yourself and maybe I don't know.

01:15:58.350 --> 01:16:02.939
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, would that be how you would want a friend to address you in a second?

01:16:03.139 --> 01:16:05.363
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would have wished.

01:16:05.343 --> 01:16:31.333
[SPEAKER_03]: If the one thing I'm going to pull I'll point out is like Zander should have like told Riley to talk to Buffy about all this stuff when he did find out originally when Riley told him yeah like I would have appreciated that if Zander was my friend if I'm if I'm Buffy yeah I think I would appreciate some like harsh truths from my friends because I don't think you'll that's the point of having friends is that they feel like

01:16:31.313 --> 01:16:36.786
[SPEAKER_03]: you feel like you can say things that are difficult to hear and that not be the end of your friendship.

01:16:36.866 --> 01:16:47.570
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you need to be able to trust like I feel the same way about my family, like that they would tell me their honest and true feelings about something and try to be as nice as possible in the delivery, right?

01:16:47.590 --> 01:16:50.537
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't want you to be a dick to me, but like

01:16:50.517 --> 01:16:57.005
[SPEAKER_03]: If I have to, you have to be able to trust that I'm not going to just like ditch you because you told me something I didn't want to hear.

01:16:57.485 --> 01:17:08.418
[SPEAKER_03]: Like sometimes that is the job of the friend is to like, I'm going to give you a hard truth and like it's not going to be easy to hear but like I feel like you need to hear it, you know, like, you know, I would appreciate that in the friend.

01:17:08.559 --> 01:17:13.725
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that like again, forgetting the part that zander knew some of this information beforehand.

01:17:14.185 --> 01:17:19.832
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think like end the delivery again in some ways.

01:17:20.048 --> 01:17:20.929
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so I don't know.

01:17:21.030 --> 01:17:21.370
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

01:17:21.390 --> 01:17:29.603
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think Zander has grown a lot, and I really love his relationship with Angia, and I will never deny the fact that he is buoyed a lot by his relationship.

01:17:29.623 --> 01:17:30.224
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, always.

01:17:30.344 --> 01:17:31.966
[SPEAKER_03]: And we said so as well.

01:17:32.227 --> 01:17:32.487
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:32.828 --> 01:17:36.353
[SPEAKER_02]: We especially said so when he was dating Cordelia.

01:17:36.393 --> 01:17:36.914
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

01:17:37.415 --> 01:17:37.896
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

01:17:38.236 --> 01:17:41.601
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, oh, he's getting like points from Cordelia.

01:17:41.681 --> 01:17:44.626
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, she is lifting a big Zordi shipper.

01:17:44.846 --> 01:17:45.347
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:45.327 --> 01:17:47.230
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you were, yeah.

01:17:47.250 --> 01:17:48.972
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a lot of the big ones I've been, you know?

01:17:48.992 --> 01:17:51.796
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, last I think you guys are a bit too hard on the show Angel.

01:17:51.896 --> 01:17:54.920
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he's boring, but stop putting your focus on Angel himself.

01:17:55.221 --> 01:17:58.425
[SPEAKER_03]: He can be fun when he is like now a bit bad.

01:17:58.525 --> 01:17:59.387
[SPEAKER_03]: I totally agree with this.

01:17:59.967 --> 01:18:04.454
[SPEAKER_03]: But most of his stuff is a bit, uh, to him rescuing or redeeming or redemption stuff.

01:18:04.814 --> 01:18:06.797
[SPEAKER_03]: But the amazing part of the show is the character arcs.

01:18:07.157 --> 01:18:08.239
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at where Wesley is now.

01:18:08.339 --> 01:18:14.187
[SPEAKER_03]: Could you have imagined him during the buffy growing into the, uh, during buffy growing into the character he is now?

01:18:14.167 --> 01:18:23.559
[SPEAKER_03]: or our beloved court, they both still have so much more to grow and that's always been what I love about the show, watching the secondary characters growth, just my thoughts either way enjoying your takes.

01:18:23.919 --> 01:18:35.173
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it's been most people's advice I know, friend of the podcast, Tom Palmer, who's also said like angels, the worst character on angel, like the side characters are the much better characters and I would definitely agree with that.

01:18:35.714 --> 01:18:39.318
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just hard when obviously so much of the story revolves around angel.

01:18:39.418 --> 01:18:40.900
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be like saying,

01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.664
[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't like Buffy, that's okay.

01:18:42.744 --> 01:18:44.328
[SPEAKER_03]: You could still like Willow and Zander and every else.

01:18:44.368 --> 01:18:46.613
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, but it's all the main character.

01:18:46.714 --> 01:18:48.237
[SPEAKER_03]: I do, I did like Angel this episode.

01:18:48.257 --> 01:18:55.855
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think that when he is rough around the edges, he's far more intriguing than he has this like save your complex, but he'll always have.

01:18:56.196 --> 01:18:57.218
[SPEAKER_03]: But.

01:18:57.198 --> 01:18:59.201
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah.

01:18:59.221 --> 01:19:11.718
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, for me, I feel like the most excited I'm going to be for angel are the cross-ever episodes where the stories directly affect each other.

01:19:11.758 --> 01:19:23.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because obviously I'm a Buffy fan, but also because it so much reminds me of like ABC

01:19:24.046 --> 01:19:26.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it was the ABC family or two?

01:19:26.510 --> 01:19:31.358
[SPEAKER_02]: No, wasn't ABC family, the WB crossover.

01:19:31.799 --> 01:19:32.520
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, WB.

01:19:32.540 --> 01:19:34.123
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, more think on this.

01:19:34.183 --> 01:19:34.683
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Friday.

01:19:34.744 --> 01:19:35.184
[SPEAKER_02]: TJ.

01:19:35.465 --> 01:19:36.206
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:19:36.326 --> 01:19:36.707
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:19:37.148 --> 01:19:40.132
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it like feels very much like that.

01:19:40.553 --> 01:19:44.760
[SPEAKER_02]: And that has a very like nostalgic feeling for me.

01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:50.830
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think that I also, I don't know.

01:19:51.080 --> 01:20:06.405
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, sometimes life affects like outside life affects your opinion with inside and sometimes you feel like you don't have time to care about a 700 year old vampire that's a little broody and moody, you know.

01:20:06.385 --> 01:20:10.690
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I have to say, I can't, I can't, I can't right now.

01:20:11.631 --> 01:20:17.618
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just like how late Buffy said to the Knights of Patassium, like, I can't, we can't, I'm too fucking busy with other shit, man.

01:20:17.818 --> 01:20:18.659
[SPEAKER_02]: Not do this right now.

01:20:19.059 --> 01:20:20.561
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how I feel about Angel.

01:20:20.601 --> 01:20:22.003
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just like not do this right now?

01:20:22.383 --> 01:20:23.765
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I have to.

01:20:24.265 --> 01:20:25.787
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, eventually.

01:20:25.807 --> 01:20:28.230
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when we get the more crossover, which isn't next week.

01:20:28.850 --> 01:20:33.135
[SPEAKER_03]: Next week, the Buffy episode, season five, episode 13,

01:20:34.077 --> 01:20:34.698
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's about.

01:20:35.761 --> 01:20:42.176
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and season two episode 13 of Angel happy anniversary, which I was watching, but you would don't have to.

01:20:42.597 --> 01:20:43.779
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's anniversary?

01:20:43.799 --> 01:20:46.185
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll find out.

01:20:46.686 --> 01:20:50.615
[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably some like moody like anniversary for Angel.

01:20:50.635 --> 01:20:53.221
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's my anniversary if I'm getting changed into a vampire.

01:20:53.241 --> 01:20:53.301
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,

01:20:53.281 --> 01:21:01.355
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have to see it myself, so that will be for next week.

01:21:01.375 --> 01:21:05.623
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in the meantime, anything else you want to talk about?

01:21:05.743 --> 01:21:09.349
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I heard that you have some news.

01:21:09.329 --> 01:21:10.831
[SPEAKER_03]: I do, yes.

01:21:11.031 --> 01:21:19.521
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you listen to talk and shit my other podcast with my friend Stewart, where we talk about shit's Creek, that just recently wrapped up.

01:21:19.541 --> 01:21:29.413
[SPEAKER_03]: And we decided to take on a new venture called You Had Me Up Podcast, where we are going through the decades and talking about different rom-coms.

01:21:29.553 --> 01:21:32.316
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're starting with the 80s and we each kind of get a pick.

01:21:32.296 --> 01:21:42.371
[SPEAKER_03]: And we talk about, like, whether they're good, they're bad, like what the best, like big romantic moments are, how problematic they are, how many red flags we're noticing with all of these people.

01:21:43.173 --> 01:21:43.934
[SPEAKER_03]: So go check it out.

01:21:43.954 --> 01:21:46.878
[SPEAKER_03]: We just revamped the talk and shit podcast feed.

01:21:46.898 --> 01:21:49.482
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're already subscribed to us there, you don't have to do anything new.

01:21:50.504 --> 01:21:54.931
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that kicks off tomorrow after as this comes out on Thursday, or beyond on Friday.

01:21:55.532 --> 01:21:59.738
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have already recorded your first episode.

01:21:59.718 --> 01:22:00.319
[SPEAKER_03]: Not yet.

01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:01.300
[SPEAKER_03]: We are reporting it.

01:22:01.501 --> 01:22:06.187
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we haven't recorded the first episode yet, but we are talking about say anything with John Q.

01:22:06.207 --> 01:22:08.551
[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, yes, yes, the boombox boombox.

01:22:08.571 --> 01:22:09.652
[SPEAKER_03]: The boombox over the head.

01:22:09.893 --> 01:22:10.774
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to pick a classic.

01:22:10.814 --> 01:22:14.519
[SPEAKER_03]: It was my pick for 80 the first 80s movie and I had to pick a classic.

01:22:14.539 --> 01:22:17.924
[SPEAKER_03]: That is like an iconic moment in in and rom com lore.

01:22:18.024 --> 01:22:23.953
[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, so you're saying that you were inspired by rom com fub.

01:22:23.933 --> 01:22:43.727
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I love rom-com fest, especially the name, and why could we not name the podcast, rom-com feb when it has so much, so many likes, so many likes, um, it's a beloved name, obviously we'd have to pay you royalties.

01:22:43.767 --> 01:22:45.250
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we didn't use them.

01:22:45.230 --> 01:22:51.119
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't possibly take full credit for Ron Confed.

01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:52.421
[SPEAKER_03]: Ron Confed.

01:22:52.661 --> 01:22:54.223
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody else would claim it.

01:22:54.283 --> 01:22:56.306
[SPEAKER_03]: God.

01:22:56.326 --> 01:22:57.769
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so go check that out.

01:22:57.849 --> 01:23:01.534
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a ton of fun and we have some fun graphics and stuff to go along with it.

01:23:01.614 --> 01:23:04.318
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that'll be later this week.

01:23:04.398 --> 01:23:05.660
[SPEAKER_03]: So check it out.

01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:07.843
[SPEAKER_03]: And in the meantime, you can keep listening to us.

01:23:07.883 --> 01:23:10.908
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back next week with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

01:23:10.968 --> 01:23:15.034
[SPEAKER_03]: And until then, here and if the lesson.

01:23:16.415 --> 01:23:18.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Shit night show start me